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Old 03-07-2013, 16:54
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Between McGann and Eccleston according to the show's costume designer when speaking to Prince Charles, so as initially rumoured:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-of-Wales.html
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Old 03-07-2013, 17:24
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Well, that's pretty conclusive! You'd think they'd make more of it, instead of using it as a passing comment when the rest of the article's about a royal visit - this news is much more important... But it's as I thought, and it's nice to know we won't have 5 months of crazy debating and speculation about whether he's a future Doctor, the first Doctor, an aged 8th, etc...

Still very disappointed Eccleston isn't involved, especially after this
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Old 03-07-2013, 17:27
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I'm pretty cool with this.

Especially if it means McGann has to come back and do some linking material...
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Old 03-07-2013, 18:18
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All I can say is...

Oh dear.....a Doctor between 8 and 9. Oh dear...
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Old 03-07-2013, 18:30
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He wont be classed as an official Doctor once the episode is over. It would bugger up the action figure range. Tennant is refered to as the 10th on all packaging. Its highly likely hes a splintered version.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:15
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I suppose that could work.

Will be interesting to see in November.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:24
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Uh, was he not confirmed when it said on-screen "Introducing John Hurt as The Doctor"?
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:28
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Uh, was he not confirmed when it said on-screen "Introducing John Hurt as The Doctor"?
They mean confirmed as number 9. He could have been the first doctor, between Troughton and Pertwee, the Valeyard etc etc etc.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:39
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I wouldn't worry. Hurt's Doctor will be erased from Doctor Who after one episode anyways
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:49
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All I can say is...

Oh dear.....a Doctor between 8 and 9. Oh dear...
Yeah. Imagine a talented writer being brave enough to add to the folklore of the show rather than being a slave to the past. Because Doctor Who was exactly the same show from Hartnell through to Smith with no changes or additions to the mythology. Oh dear indeed.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:53
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I am very happy about this. If true then there is a tiny possibility of McGann appearing...

I also feel it gives things a bit of a shake but without messing with the past/classic who too much.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:54
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So the Twelfth Doctor is actually the Thirteenth and therefore the last...
...okay, they obviously aren't going to cancel the show because of something mentioned a few times since The Deadly Assassin, but it means that the explanation of how the Doctor can regenerate more than twelve times will have to come sooner than we previously thought.
This also means the Valeyard is destined to rear his ugly pantomime head soon...hopefully they'll have the sense to ignores its existence (although Moffat did mention its name in the last episode...).

Even better would be if there's some resolution to the whole thing which means the number of Doctors isn't screwed with.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:55
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The Valeyard was an incarnation of the Doctor, but was 'somewhere between' his 12th and 13th incarnation. So not an actual numbered incarnation, but a reflection of his darker side. So I'm not convinced Hurt will necessarily be 'Doctor 9' - bumping all the others up one.
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Old 03-07-2013, 19:56
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Probably along the lines of The Watcher.


Nobody ever counts The Watcher as an incarnation of the Doctor yet he basically had an adventure of his own in Logopolis, flying the TARDIS picking up Nyssa from Traken etc...


So Mcgann becomes Hurt (ha) changes into Hurt who does his Thing before changing into Ecclescake.
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Old 03-07-2013, 20:01
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So Mcgann becomes Hurt (ha) changes into Hurt who does his Thing before changing into Ecclescake.
Likely yet unlikely to be seen onscreen.

There will be no bumping of numbers, it will leave a mess. Remember Hurt wouldnt be in this were it not for Ecclestone not wanting to be involved.
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Old 03-07-2013, 20:15
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Remember Hurt wouldnt be in this were it not for Ecclestone not wanting to be involved.
Simply not true.
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Old 03-07-2013, 20:18
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Simply not true.
Indeed. If anything, Billie is covering for Eccles' absence.
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Old 03-07-2013, 20:26
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Oh hang on methinks you are incorrect. Had Ecclestone been in this I doubt Hurt would have been involved. I myself could be incorrect however. Billie is there for 10 allegedly yet I imagine she wasnt always as Elizabeth 1st looks to me like she was/ is to be 10s companion in this. Joanna Page was rumored to be an assistant when Karen Gillan she said she was leaving and maybe this means something given her casting, an assistant for one episode. That makes you wonder who Billie is appearing with if this is the case, Its very confusing.
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Old 03-07-2013, 20:41
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Oh hang on methinks you are incorrect. Had Ecclestone been in this I doubt Hurt would have been involved. I myself could be incorrect however, Billie is there for 10 allegedly yet I imagine she wasnt always as Elizabeth 1 looked like she was to be10s companion in this. Joanna Page was rumoured to be an assistant when Karen Gillan she said she was leaving. Maybe this means something given her casting, an assistant for one episode. That makes you wonder who Billie is appearing with if this is the case, Its very confusing.
I believe Eccleston's role was going to be rather small, and he himself said that it didn't add anything anything to his character, so he declined (don't have any sources for the mo, but I'm sure other people could back me up). You'd have thought that playing a part similar to Hurt's would certainly add depth to the character, which goes against Eccleston's reasoning.
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Old 03-07-2013, 20:48
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Well thats just me assuming there was to be a straightforward 3 Doctors story before Ecclestone said no.
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Old 03-07-2013, 21:38
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Well thats just me assuming there was to be a straightforward 3 Doctors story before Ecclestone said no.
I assume there was a catch 22 with Eccleston, in that there was no point writing him a substantial part before he agreed to take part, but he wouldn't say yes without a substantial role.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:14
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Well. He's pretty much spoiled it hasn't he. Intriguing. Guess that means we're getting a look at the Time War in the 50th.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:58
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I wouldn't worry. Hurt's Doctor will be erased from Doctor Who after one episode anyways
And perhaps erased from history itself. Remember that 11 and Clara are currently messing about in the Doctor's very timeline itself and could theoretically alter many things whilst they're there.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:23
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Well. He's pretty much spoiled it hasn't he. Intriguing. Guess that means we're getting a look at the Time War in the 50th.
We've not had anything more spoiled than we already knew, surely? But I would like a glimpse of the Time War.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:32
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And perhaps erased from history itself. Remember that 11 and Clara are currently messing about in the Doctor's very timeline itself and could theoretically alter many things whilst they're there.
As with all things Eccleston, the events have been timelocked.

While I am sure he meant/did not mean to do the small/large/insignificant/comedic/tragic part in the 50th, he both regrets/looks forward to being/not being in the anniversary episode.

Bored with all that, staff went and hired Hurt. He will play the Doctor.
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