He has a terrible, ludicrous business idea.

He has no respect for his team mates.

He seems to think everyone around him knows nothing, even the audience.

How the hell did he even get this far? Laughable show.

With what is left, I'd go with the Doctor because the others are either viciously ruthless and/or fish out of water lucky to have got on the show.

Hill get slaughtered in the interviews

How he thinks his mate can be apart of the business plan I dnt know

****

They just want to take the money and run.

These candidates are terrible. I couldn't trust any of them for a quarter of a million investment at all.

But the same can be said about most of the others too.

All the others seem to talk down about the other contestants too.

How Franny and Leah are still in is also a mystery.

Presumably as a plaything for luisa

I think there is a difference in doing it in the boardroom and doing it all the time.

I was shocked at how snide like he was about the things he bought and then insulted them for not selling it, which was also an insult to us as well.

This is the first year I'm worrisome of who is left and what they can do. I have disagreed about winners before but the final few have had some decent ones in there.

In this one I would only trust the Doctor with the money as she seems to have her head screwed on.

This ^.
It's Luisa or Leah .

Jordan is ridiculous. Aggressive and snidey and his nearly throwing up in the face of pressure does not bode well.

Vomiting, mainly.

I've felt certain from the midpoint onwards that a guy would win this year: but those three business plans were underwhelming to say the least. Depending on what the girls (esp Luisa and Leah) have come up with, and if they can respond well under a grilling, I can now see them with a chance.

Sugar didn't seem enthralled with any of the plans tonight.. And Jordan is a dead man walking: "I need more time to think about this" was basically code for we'll send this numpty through to the interviews for entertainment and to give himself even more rope to inevitably hang himself with.

Lord Sugar must have known his plan all along, so I'm not sure what all the drama was about.

I felt that as well, that the producers wanted him to face the tech CEOs next week because it would make good TV.

I also feel Myles would have done well in the interviews but they have already chosen a winner.

I don't think any of them were aware of the silent partner though. I think that's what threw them all as well as the insulting of software engineers, not being knowledgeable of the software industry and assuming just because he has an idea everyone else will bow down to him.

I don't really know why but i really dislike the guy, as well as his haircut which seems to be designed to make him look taller but for me has the opposite effect.

Me too, the three of them were awful. Myles wasn't that bad to be honest but I wouldnt hire him after being the one that came out with last weeks branding idea.

I think they are so quick to judge. I mean, branding occurs over a long period and these people are bottle fed clients and services.

Myles still appears decent but I think the producers needs a cover girl.

I haven't liked him from the start, something about him that seems sly and unpleasant, bad vibes.

He was absolutely pathetic in there. Talking absolute nonsense, arrogant, muddled, hopeless.

Sugar perhaps thinks he'll be good fun at the interview stage, but he is clearly rubbish.

Although Jordan comes across badly, I think SALS is interested in the idea of app production as there have been a few tasks in the recent series where apps have been the focus of the task. Given his brief description of it though, I'm not entirely sure how it would work (if you ignore the invisible 3rd person). I know from past experience coding and designing apps is a pain in the backside especially for the "hobbyist", and I'm wondering if he's just going to try and do something similar to Andromo and the plethora of other similar things out there.

The problem with these is the fact that they basically all do the same thing and they're similar to website templates, because to do anything outstanding you actually have to know how it all works and fits together. I've had a play about with the MIT App Inventor and, while you can actually do more with it as it allows you to do a lot more than the standard 'template' app makers, it's still a long way from designing something that looks and behaves professional. In the end I ended up writing my own code from scratch, which gave me a headache as I figured out how everything fitted together, and my app was just a simple "panic button" for a family member. It's slightly easier if you're working with a Windows smartphone, but even then VB for smartphones can be daunting until you figure out how screens (or pages as I think they were called in VB) link together etc.

Unless he's found a way to cut out the need for any real techy stuff, which has already been done by others anyway which means he'd need a serious USP, then he'll be going next week (I think it's him that Claude calls a parasite).

Going back to the 3rd person, I'm pretty surprised this week wasn't a double firing. The easiest way he could have probably explained it away is that the shares will be split as 50% for SALS and then 25% for him and the 3P, although I'm guessing SALS probably wants to have input on who is actually employed as opposed to just taking someone he's never met before.


I'd also agree with this, especially after the savaging that Stuart "The Amoeba" Baggs received. The only problem with this is the fact that if it's true then it means the winner has been chosen before filming even started, and there's no point in watching the show. At least when there was the possibility of a job, there was a reason for going into it.

If Sir Alan Sugar is a partner in this he will want his own people to come in as well.

The other question is the type of app involved and how much return is there. An app on its own doesn't make money so is he offering a business taht creates multiple apps and if so what is the turn over of that?

The app also needs a business behind the app to make it, so is he offering a business to business thing? I still don't see it working there either.

Looking from last year, they want a service based company that isn't heavy on development. Something they can throw themselves into quickly and get something in return. When reliant on these things I don't think the app thing will work.

I actually think Jordan has been the strongest business person throughout the tasks, he is a strategic thinker and a good organiser. He doesn't strike me as an entrepreneur though, his idea doesn't sound great, and he doesn't seem a particularly nice chap. He's also never going to get a job from Sugar as he's clearly not Big Al's kind of person. And not Karen's either, she seemed hellbent on getting rid of him.

He was right to get rid of Myles on this task, Myles has been bad at pretty much everything - selling, marketing, decision making.

Most of these app creation services will let you design your app, and then the service throws in ads that are either split on a certain percentage with you or not at all, but at least you have your own app. Unfortunately the ads can vary between cost-per-click ads (you only get paid if someone clicks the ad) or cost-per-impression ads (as long as the ad is shown you get paid), and the days of crazy prices for ads has long gone and is now incredibly low. You can also remove the ads and have the app published, but the fees for this can be quite prohibitive for the "hobbyist".

There was a project proposal submitted last year regarding an app for the NHS (who I work for), and the price of the app and constant updates was pretty astronomical and it got refused mainly on cost grounds, and a few other things (the app could actually be copied and it wasn't particularly desirable to have in the wild). The proposal got resubmitted with a few variations, one of the main ones being that they could use these app creation services. When I had a look at the costs of the app creation services I think the cheapest figure I could find for what would be required was around £800 per month for the app.

Whether the app design service would require a business behind it is questionable. There are a few companies that use these creation services to basically roll out their initial app and see what the take up is, but once they know they can justify the investment of a bespoke app they usually get someone to design it and maintain it as opposed to paying money for what is effectively a template. If there is no take up then they can just drop the app and cut their losses. There is the potential for money to be made, but there are the more established players out there so there would have to be a real USP, and the only one I can think of is it was from SALS.

It got me wondering as soon as "hobbyists" were mentioned, because it seemed a little odd. Most hobbyists will learn to actually code the app themselves as this is part of the fun of it. You're delving into a something that requires you to learn, and as you have ideas for various apps then you also have to learn the required code and structure of whatever language of whatever environment you use. I really got into HTML back in 1996 (I studied multimedia design at uni), and even when WYSIWYG website design programs came along (HotDog, CoffeeCup, Dreamweaver, et al) I still did most of my coding in a text editor as I enjoyed the challenge of coding it all "blind" (I had to save the page and then load it manually into the browser to see it). I can't really see many hobbyists shelling out to use something that would really remove the learning curve. It may appeal to kids that just want the 'glory' of having their own app or game, but as I've said there are other tools out there that already do this job, and in any case to make something really good you'd still need a graphic artist at least and someone to do the sound.

I don't see Jordan as a finalist and think his business plan will be ripped to shreds next week. Having said that, he is a far more credible candidate than Myles, Zee, Uzma and Francesca, just to name the ones that come straight to mind as obviously and demonstrably worse than him..

I'm sure that the 'You're a parasite' remark from Claude will turn out to have been directed at Jordan.