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The nature of Channel 4 means it can't take risks every day. But I think they still do their bit. Getting The Murder Trial onto TV must have been an incredible effort but they did it, it counted for a bit of PSB and they got decent ratings for it. The Plane Crash really paid off last year (ratings wise, financially who knows!) and was years and years in the working with multiple broadcasters trying to do it over the years. They're airing a French subtitled drama in the prime drama slot of the week!
Even Million Pound Drop - sure they've over exposed it. But it really did push the genre forward and did some interesting things. That's now a format developed with Channel 4 which has become a massive global hit. I would even say that some of the date related programming recently has been what C4 should be doing. Both First Dates and Dates may have been crippled by dodgy scheduling more than anything. The problem isn't a lack of risks, it's a lack of cash cows in primetime. Basically, they're having to do far too much commissioning. BBC1/ITV1 have massive resources and yet only really have one hour of primetime to worry about from Monday-Friday. Channel 5 have built up a good portfolio of US imports (22-24 hours rather than 6 hours for a UK series) and now Big Brother. C4 used to have the US shows. They used to have 120+ hours of Big Brother. And they used to have Ramsay (and a few others on their talent roster) doing multiple shows all rating well. ![]() The problem with Channel 4's public service pieces is that they feel like public service pieces. A lot of the stuff the BBC do, especially on BBC2, don't come across as PSB programming. Gardeners World or Stargazing Live or The Tube don't feel like public service programming, but they do cater for a niche audience. Ironically, they often garner larger audiences than C4. A lot of Channel 4's output suffers from the fact that it doesn't have an editorial 'spine'. Their factual output comes across as a big sloppy pile of facts and stories, not joined or bonded together in any way. Any good factual programme has a skeleton, supported by a strong backbone and is rich in content. C4's factual certainly has a long way to go. Quote:
Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV for Monday 8th to Sunday 14th June: http://oi41.tinypic.com/2md53ed.jpg
Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps, news and repeats) were: 1. The Apprentice: 12.9 2. Nick & Margaret: We Pay Your Benefits: 6.8 3. Luther: 6.7 4. Andy Murray: The Man Behind The Racquet: 6.0 5. Long Lost Family: 5.2 6. Great British Budget Menu: 5.2 7. The Zoo: 4.9 8. Your Money, Their Tricks: 4.4 9. Your Face Sounds Familiar: 4.3 10. Casualty: 4.0 Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 12.9% of 18-49 year olds living in the UK watched The Apprentice |
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BBC 1 viewers pay tax and get it back in their publicly funded salaries as pen pushers in schools, hospitals, council offices, etc
is the ITV HQ stationery cupboard fully stocked, George?
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The nature of Channel 4 means it can't take risks every day. But I think they still do their bit. Getting The Murder Trial onto TV must have been an incredible effort but they did it, it counted for a bit of PSB and they got decent ratings for it. The Plane Crash really paid off last year (ratings wise, financially who knows!) and was years and years in the working with multiple broadcasters trying to do it over the years. They're airing a French subtitled drama in the prime drama slot of the week!
Even Million Pound Drop - sure they've over exposed it. But it really did push the genre forward and did some interesting things. That's now a format developed with Channel 4 which has become a massive global hit. I would even say that some of the date related programming recently has been what C4 should be doing. Both First Dates and Dates may have been crippled by dodgy scheduling more than anything. The problem isn't a lack of risks, it's a lack of cash cows in primetime. Basically, they're having to do far too much commissioning. BBC1/ITV1 have massive resources and yet only really have one hour of primetime to worry about from Monday-Friday. Channel 5 have built up a good portfolio of US imports (22-24 hours rather than 6 hours for a UK series) and now Big Brother. C4 used to have the US shows. They used to have 120+ hours of Big Brother. And they used to have Ramsay (and a few others on their talent roster) doing multiple shows all rating well. |
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The Apprentice has a very young audience, despite the ages of the "panel" and I'd imagine they just carried some of that audience to this show. |
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The isn't their first programme, the last Nick and Margaret programme barely broke 3m iirc. Last weeks topic around the benefit culture is hugely relevant at the moment.
The numbers for Nick and Margaret's show prove just how much interest there is in this subject right now. It will be revisited again and again. |
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BB has added competition tonight with Geordie shore which gets about 300k of their target audience. BB will get about 1.5 tonight. Bots will do well with Daley being interviewed, 1million + depending on how BB rates.
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Coronation Street: 7.82m (39.8%)
Coronation Street: 7.69m (36.4%) Eastenders: 6.22m (31.1%) Emmerdale: 6.05m (34.8%) So without +1 ... Eastenders was just 0.17m viewers ahead. Hardly a clear victory considering Corrie is 1.6m ahead despite straddling EastEnders either side and with no clashing to speak of... And Emmerdale beat it in share. Honestly, glossing over these issues will do EastEnders no good. You can't turn a blind eye to this performance, unless you want it to be axed? ![]() Not any of these figures will stay the same by next Monday. Luther is a good example of timeshifting in the ratings chart last week. |
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BB has added competition tonight with Geordie shore which gets about 300k of their target audience. BB will get about 1.5 tonight. Bots will do well with Daley being interviewed, 1million + depending on how BB rates.
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From a ratings point of view they'd hold back that interview to later in the show - maybe not the last part as viewers might decide not to stick around, but certainly part 2 or 3. Part 1 just encourages a switch off during the first break.
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The FA Cup to be shown live on BBC TV and BT Sport from next year: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...#ixzz2ZFain285
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The FA Cup to be shown live on BBC TV and BT Sport from next year: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...#ixzz2ZFain285
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Interesting should do well for the beeb surprised itv let it go
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I don't think itv did let it go. I think it was more to do with the fact that they did such a crap job with it they lost it.
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I don't think itv did let it go. I think it was more to do with the fact that they did such a crap job with it they lost it.
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Bit of a question mark over the future of Adrian Chiles ?
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Bit of a question mark over the future of Adrian Chiles ?
Very surprised If the BBC has indeed managed to get some FA Cup rights back - it would be a big boost, but I guess we'll have to wait and see exactly what they got. |
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I don't think itv did let it go. I think it was more to do with the fact that they did such a crap job with it they lost it.
Shame that England games aren't coming home too. |
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The FA Cup to be shown live on BBC TV and BT Sport from next year: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...#ixzz2ZFain285
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Absolutely fantastic news! Looking forward to more details later.
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itv to keep England friendlies, bbc to play junior parter to bt. more sport moves away from FTA - fantastic? Matter of opinion. Wont bother those with subs to the sports channels but clear that the bbc still sees making deals with pay operators as preferable to doing so with other FTA operators. That will ultimately be their death.
---- I don't ITV's football coverage is as bad as people like to make out, but once the idea is formed it sticks Shame that ITV and BBC sports departments can only work together for summer football tournament, but I suppose it's unlikely the two of them could afford to see off pay tv companies. It will be interesting to know if BBC get preferential picks for the FA cups, which ITV rarely did with it's deal. The FA do like to suck up to anyone that isn't ITV (and yet still take their money). also..... Quote:
Kantar Media have informed us that there will be a delay in delivery of today's BARB data files.
At this stage, they are unable to provide any timings for the delivery of the data. We will send the reports as soon as data becomes available or an update if the situation changes. |
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Ratings delayed via uktvratings
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Clearly the ratings machine has melted in the hot weather...
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It will be interesting to know if BBC get preferential picks for the FA cups, which ITV rarely did with it's deal. .
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itv to keep England friendlies, bbc to play junior parter to bt. more sport moves away from FTA - fantastic? Matter of opinion. Wont bother those with subs to the sports channels but clear that the bbc still sees making deals with pay operators as preferable to doing so with other FTA operators. That will ultimately be their death.
Let's wait and see. Ken |
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itv to keep England friendlies, bbc to play junior parter to bt. more sport moves away from FTA - fantastic? Matter of opinion. Wont bother those with subs to the sports channels but clear that the bbc still sees making deals with pay operators as preferable to doing so with other FTA operators. That will ultimately be their death.
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