It started off strong, but dipped quite a bit towards the end. But ABC were pretty confident that it would do well on return, so gave it a second season. Either that or they went into a 2-season deal like the BBC and Talpa for The Voice.

Also where in the schedule will they put it. Midweek, Fridays or Sundays?


It has. It's not really done the business in the countries sold to so far, but it certainly will be interesting to see how it does. Although last time I checked, C4 refused to buy any tried and tested entertainment formats (under Jay Hunt's reign anyway)

Sky Sports have retained Football League rights until the end of the 2018 season.

As good as their coverage is I have no intention of getting sky sports back its just so expensive for me

How's coronation street been performing lately thanks

Would love to see more live football on free to air tv too much is on sky nowadays

Andy Townsend, of course.

Logistically difficult and not good in ratings terms, particularly on Mondays, ITV could never move its big two soaps for a clash between two middling Premiership teams which would only attract 2 million viewers tops. Similarly the BBC would annoy fans of both EE and Panorama if they landed the rights to a Monday night match.
The Premiership is fine where it is, on a dedicated channel.

In fairness to C4, though, isn't Run borderline "1980s video nasty"-esque? You can't just go crashing straight in to extreme violence and torture at 9pm. There has to be a gradual transition from pre-watershed to that sort of material.

Might add it's been yet another ratings dud from Channel 4. They just seem able to get anything right now.

Might have been a dud, but it is easily the best drama they've shown in a long long time

Here's a clue:Jay Hunt

Big Brother has done well to hold up this week - though they don't deserve it having blatantly fixed nominations for the second time in three weeks to save two housemates and now being so desperate they are throwing their own messages on tennis balls into the house to try and drum up interest.


It really is good - and scheduling has killed it. Had it been weekly I'm sure it would have had a chance of higher figures next week.


Completely agreed - though not necessarily Mondays (due to Skins), but any night from Monday to Thursday in a weekly slot would probably have served Run well.

I suspect Top Boy will be stripped just like the first series too.


Awful move - it was slated in America and just a poor lazy concept. At best this should be for 5pm.

It's holding up IMO because the quality of the show has remained strong.

Nobody really cares how many are up for the vote or where the tennis balls are coming from.

Agree who cares its called secret and lies so they the producers are going to wind them up

Now come on Marm how can you say that is shocking for the Apprentice even though it was on an hour earlier and faced that boiling weather we been having as well. Then say that was a great figure for BB even though its not really. The low figure for the Appentice was to be expected because of the BBC stupid idea of putting the Apprentice on an hour earlier.

Wednesday 17th July 2013

BBC One
19:00 Your Money, Their Tricks 3.19m (18.9%)
20:00 The Apprentice Final 5.70m (27.6%)
22:35 Wheelers, Dealers & Del Boys 2.71m (21.5%)

BBC Two
20:00 Restoration Home 1.61m (7.9%)
21:00 The Real White Queen 1.91m (9.1%)

ITV
19:00 Emmerdale 5.50m (34.1%) +1 (292k/1.5%)
19:30 Coronation Street 6.36 m (35.6%) +1 (391k/1.9%)
20:00 The Zoo 3.49m (17.1%) +1 (186k/0.9%)
21:00 Ray Mears's Close Encounters 2.41m (11.5%) +1 (193k/1.2%)

Channel 4
18:30 Hollyoaks 829k (5.7%)
21:00 24 Hours in A&E 2.14m (10.2%) +1 (331k/2.0%)
22:00 Run 864k (5.1%) +1 (103k/1.1%)

Channel 5
13:15 Home and Away 254k (4.3%)
13:45 Neighbours 519k (9.8%)
17:30 Neighbours 692k (6.1%)
18:00 Home and Away 494k (3.7%)
20:00 The Real Myra Hindley 952k (4.7%) +1 (115k/0.5%)
22:00 Big Brother 1.55m (9.4%) +1 (44k/0.5%)
23:00 Bit on the Side 618k (6.7%)

E4
19:00 Hollyoaks 496k (3.1%) +1 (136k/0.7%)

5*
18:30 Home and Away 365k (2.5%)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s108/...#ixzz2ZQCOYosd

I think this decision is a reasonable one, if production costs are fairly cheap. I think with the right slot and promotion, it could bring in a small returning audience for four, but nothing more than 1.5 million.

That's setting the bar rather low I feel. C4 need a big new returning format that can deliver 2m+, or even 3m+

As regards to Run, it's a shame that C4 persist with stripping dramas. I think this could have run very well at 9pm/10pm on Mondays over 4 weeks. Great drama, but once again let down by poor scheduling.

For The Taste, it started strong but fizzled out. I believe it will be going out in primetime, but where is the question. Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays; who knows. They better not strip it though!

I've contacted DS asking them to restore Part 3 of the ratings thread in two parts (considering it was too big), because of the ratings data available there.

I think 1.5m is a reasonable start. What it needs to do is build its audience over the 10-episode run. Whilst I agree with you Dancc that C4 need something in excess of 2m+ or 3m+ (I think even higher, maybe 5m+), I think it's better to set expectations low.

I also did this the other day. They replied saying they'll look into it, but If lots of us request it maybe it has more chance of happening.

That's a broad brush to make a theory out of, Grandma's House would never have got a big audience whenever they'd shown it, it was sexually explicit, self-referential and full of Jewish references, the least mainstream programme it's possible to get. The Mimic had nobody famous in it at all and The Thick Of It is also certainly not mainstream fare due to its explicit language and esoteric subject matter.

Whereas of the ones you list, Bottom and Alan Partridge were follow-ups to extremely successful series starring well-known performers. Red Dwarf hardly got any audience in the first series and only the fact they commissioned two series at once kept it going. Ricky Gervais will tell anyone who listens that The Office had low ratings at the start, it only became popular through repeats, and the same is true for Phoenix Nights, the first series of which was on a Sunday night and had very little publicity to the extent I didn't know it was coming on until I saw it in that week's Radio Times (which didn't even make it a Choice).

In addition, in those days you could easily get a big audience. Lee and Herring's Fist of Fun, a series I was an absolutely demented fan of at the time, did about three million on BBC2 at 9pm in 1995. But that was a time when the vast majority of the audience only had four channels, so if you didn't like the ITV drama and didn't want to watch the news, you had a 50/50 chance of falling on it. No chance of that now.


I think it's an absolutely fine deal. I don't support a team in the Football League so I don't really care about live games, but I am happy to spend an hour on Sunday morning (I record it) looking at the goals to keep me up to date with what's going on. In addition if anything interesting or funny happens I can see it on Football Focus.

Whereas the Conference deal on Premier Sports gave it loads of live games but it was a terrible deal because nobody watched that channel because hardly anyone knows who the teams are. If there was a half-hour highlights show it would have been better cos it would have given it a bit of context.


They have revived it, Fast and Loose on BBC2 last year was clearly Whose Line is it Anyway, with the same format and the same producers, although for some reason they seemed terrified of making any reference to Whose Line - hence Dan Patterson was in the press release as "the producer of Mock The Week". I don't know why they didn't just call it Whose Line is it Anyway.

Anyway, it was dreadful.

OMG!

Just seen last night's soap ratings, Emmerdale less than 900,000 behind Corrie! Surely this means that Corrie is in crisis and Emmerdale is in a BATTLE with Corrie for the number one spot.

I can see in a few months time it being like this;

Emmerdale 7m
Corrie 5m
Eastenders 2.5m
Hollyoaks -0.2m.

Lord Sugar seems to be quiet on Twitter today with no mention of the Apprentice ratings. He won't be happy about the BBC's treatment of the show last night, worst scheduling ever.

It was in the wrong time slot still don't think it's a good rating for some reason ds decided to put all my posts into one

Agree I pretty dire figuire I must say