Due to the late slot, I think eastenders will do well to get 5million. A Corrie episode after an England match earlier this year got 5.6m. As ee is not as popular as Corrie, 5mill will be acceptable.
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EastEnders should be boosted both by the Wimbledon lead-in and the viewers tuning in for the BBC News at Ten.
This won't mean anything unless those viewers stick around on Monday
If anything it'll make the situation worse as EE bosses will be able to relax in the knowing that X million viewers are watching the current output and no changes are needed.
This won't mean anything unless those viewers stick around on Monday
If anything it'll make the situation worse as EE bosses will be able to relax in the knowing that X million viewers are watching the current output and no changes are needed.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Due to the late slot, I think eastenders will do well to get 5million. A Corrie episode after an England match earlier this year got 5.6m. As ee is not as popular as Corrie, 5mill will be acceptable.”
“Due to the late slot, I think eastenders will do well to get 5million. A Corrie episode after an England match earlier this year got 5.6m. As ee is not as popular as Corrie, 5mill will be acceptable.”
But Wimbledon would have ended on double the audience of the England game, so EE should be looking at 9-10m surely.
Looking ahead a couple of weeks to the London Anniversary Games and BBC Press Office has them down on BBC2 from 7.30-8.30pm, so presumably they'll switch to BBC1 at 8.30pm. Be interesting to see how that rates - I don't think standard Diamond League meetings have really benefitted at all ratings wise from the Olympic buzz, but I'd like to see this get a sold 6m or so for the BBC1 slot.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Due to the late slot, I think eastenders will do well to get 5million. A Corrie episode after an England match earlier this year got 5.6m. As ee is not as popular as Corrie, 5mill will be acceptable.”
“Due to the late slot, I think eastenders will do well to get 5million. A Corrie episode after an England match earlier this year got 5.6m. As ee is not as popular as Corrie, 5mill will be acceptable.”
WHAT!! 5million! I see you are lowering your expectations again. Its got a 10m+ lead in surely it will averaging more than 5million. So are you suggesting it will be less than Corrie?
EastEnders should post at least 7mill+ with a potential 11mill lead in. It will be Corrie & ED flagging around 5 million
Twitter is full of people who haven't watched EastEnders in years slagging it off, quite a funny read.
One tweet describes it as going from the greatest high to the lowest of the low in one moment!
One tweet describes it as going from the greatest high to the lowest of the low in one moment!
In the end the BBC were only a roof closure away from being able to accommodate a 10.00 news. I think they managed the wind down from the Tennis in about 10 minutes and I think they have called it right in broadcasting Eastenders.
Ofcourse ratings may dictate otherwise. ITV have lost multi million lead ins to their news programmes on talent show finals nights-the Beeb will be hoping there isn't an embarrassing drop off for EE.
Colossal night for BBC1 though-fate has been kind and Wimbledon truly paying its way( Britons aren't interested in Tennis they are interested in Wimbledon
). And there is more to come.
Ofcourse ratings may dictate otherwise. ITV have lost multi million lead ins to their news programmes on talent show finals nights-the Beeb will be hoping there isn't an embarrassing drop off for EE.
Colossal night for BBC1 though-fate has been kind and Wimbledon truly paying its way( Britons aren't interested in Tennis they are interested in Wimbledon
). And there is more to come.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“err the rest of it about it meaning that BGT is 'no longer a cultural phenomenon' if Wimbledon gets more viewers than it.
Presumably when the World Cup beats everything next year that will mean that Strictly is no longer a cultural phenomenon?”
“err the rest of it about it meaning that BGT is 'no longer a cultural phenomenon' if Wimbledon gets more viewers than it.
Presumably when the World Cup beats everything next year that will mean that Strictly is no longer a cultural phenomenon?”
Youve once again twisted what I said. I said BGT no longer has the cultural impact it used to have. I didn't say it has no cultural impact but that its not of the same magnitude of previous years, as the ratings prove [this years final was its lowest rated ever]. Do you disagree with that statement?
Predictions
Corrie - 6.5million
Corrie 5.5million
BSH - 1.9million
Wimbledon - av - 9.54million, peak - 12.5million
EE - 7.2million
BBC News - 6.4million
BBC1 will have best ratings, crushing ITV so i expect low ratings for ITV.
Corrie - 6.5million
Corrie 5.5million
BSH - 1.9million
Wimbledon - av - 9.54million, peak - 12.5million
EE - 7.2million
BBC News - 6.4million
BBC1 will have best ratings, crushing ITV so i expect low ratings for ITV.
lest we forget, the BBC aired full and comprehensive news bulletins tonight at 5pm, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10pm on the dot. and every home in the land had access if they needed it
Samuel is becoming an utter joke. Really. May as well be BBC PR
He has to be a BBC employee or an utterly obsessive fan boy who quite frankly needs help
He has to be a BBC employee or an utterly obsessive fan boy who quite frankly needs help
BBC3's 10.30 showing of EastEnders had been replaced by a repeat of last night's Live at the Electric.
I was about to post last year's final breakdown, but came across a post worth quoting:
You were saying? (I know, things have gone his way with Federer and Nadal going out, but you know 
)
Wimbledon 2012 Final - Breakdown (thanks gslam2 at the time)
Remember the two points above, which both dented the average for last year, yet we still had a huge 11.44m (58.2%) average from 12:55 to 19:00. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it'll be equal, if not higher than last year, even if the weather is hotter this year. The roof shouldn't need to be closed, and there is no F1 FTA competition...
However with a huge lead-in, could be a big rating for the F1 highlights.
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Quote:
“Andy Murray will never ever get a better chance to reach the Wimbledon Men's Final again. Could be years before we get another Brit in the final.”
“Andy Murray will never ever get a better chance to reach the Wimbledon Men's Final again. Could be years before we get another Brit in the final.”
You were saying?
(I know, things have gone his way with Federer and Nadal going out, but you know )Wimbledon 2012 Final - Breakdown (thanks gslam2 at the time)
Spoiler
Remember the two points above, which both dented the average for last year, yet we still had a huge 11.44m (58.2%) average from 12:55 to 19:00. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it'll be equal, if not higher than last year, even if the weather is hotter this year. The roof shouldn't need to be closed, and there is no F1 FTA competition...
However with a huge lead-in, could be a big rating for the F1 highlights.
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Originally Posted by ronant:
“Yep my EPG says -
12.50 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final Build Up
1.50-6.00 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final”
“Yep my EPG says -
12.50 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final Build Up
1.50-6.00 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final”
I've never seen anything billed as Build Up before, except in the BARB officials. Shows some overnight ratings savvy for once on the part of the BBC.
Quote:
“Danny Cohen said, somewhere I can't remember, that he thinks that the BBC sometimes places too much emphasis on the News always having to start at 10. Perhaps now he's even more senior and overseeing all of TV he's exerting his influence.”
“Danny Cohen said, somewhere I can't remember, that he thinks that the BBC sometimes places too much emphasis on the News always having to start at 10. Perhaps now he's even more senior and overseeing all of TV he's exerting his influence.”
I'm with him. Of course it should be sparing, but tonight for example, a Friday night with a huge sporting spectacle on screen, with British interest, was a clear case for delaying the news for 15 minutes.
Someone said EE was taking precedence over the news. How so? If the news had aired at 9.45 we'd never hear the end of complaints. "BBC News at Ten airs 15 minutes early - shock". Confusing viewers tuning in at 10 etc etc.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“EastEnders should be boosted both by the Wimbledon lead-in and the viewers tuning in for the BBC News at Ten.
This won't mean anything unless those viewers stick around on Monday
If anything it'll make the situation worse as EE bosses will be able to relax in the knowing that X million viewers are watching the current output and no changes are needed.”
“EastEnders should be boosted both by the Wimbledon lead-in and the viewers tuning in for the BBC News at Ten.
This won't mean anything unless those viewers stick around on Monday
If anything it'll make the situation worse as EE bosses will be able to relax in the knowing that X million viewers are watching the current output and no changes are needed.”
In fairness millions are still watching. But I agree it could do a lot better then its currently doing.
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Danny Cohen said, somewhere I can't remember, that he thinks that the BBC sometimes places too much emphasis on the News always having to start at 10.”
“Danny Cohen said, somewhere I can't remember, that he thinks that the BBC sometimes places too much emphasis on the News always having to start at 10.”
ITV had a similar thought back in the day. They've rued that mistake every since.
Messing with News at Ten more frequently or unnecessarily would be pure lunacy. It's the most important broadcast the BBC makes every single day, and 10pm is the perfect slot.
Originally Posted by Doobieboob:
“I've not long been on here and already I'm have a right laugh atsome posters posts, I think judging by the amount of posts some people have should get out more”
“I've not long been on here and already I'm have a right laugh atsome posters posts, I think judging by the amount of posts some people have should get out more”
Well there is a 6 year back catalogue-you are welcome to read it if you want
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I'm with him. Of course it should be sparing, but tonight for example, a Friday night with a huge sporting spectacle on screen, with British interest, was a clear case for delaying the news for 15 minutes.
Someone said EE was taking precedence over the news. How so? If the news had aired at 9.45 we'd never hear the end of complaints. "BBC News at Ten airs 15 minutes early - shock". Confusing viewers tuning in at 10 etc etc.”
“I'm with him. Of course it should be sparing, but tonight for example, a Friday night with a huge sporting spectacle on screen, with British interest, was a clear case for delaying the news for 15 minutes.
Someone said EE was taking precedence over the news. How so? If the news had aired at 9.45 we'd never hear the end of complaints. "BBC News at Ten airs 15 minutes early - shock". Confusing viewers tuning in at 10 etc etc.”
ITV had that opinion and it was probably the worst single decision they ever made.
The Ten O'clock News starting bang on Ten is one of the corner stones of the entire BBC.
Yes it can be delayed by sport, but not for anything else during the week.
The BBC have been showing the news an hour late since 2000!
Strange you say that on the weekend one of it's finalists is set to have break into the top 5 of the singles charts, something even Susan Boyle didn't manage. (Not that I think Gabz is in anyway the next cultural phenomenon!) You and Ice Dragon though have shown your true colours today following Jessie J announcing she's quitting The Voice (and nobody caring) - suddenly you both are more than happy to highlight how hopeless the judges actually were.
Anyway, back to ratings and with the annual BBC1/BBC2 switcheroo with the tennis does anyone have a top ten list of live sporting events on BBC2. I suspect snooker would dominate it, and more recently I remember the curling doing well back in the 2002 Olympics, but would be interesting to see how events not promoted to BBC1 rated.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Youve once again twisted what I said. I said BGT no longer has the cultural impact it used to have. I didn't say it has no cultural impact but that its not of the same magnitude of previous years, as the ratings prove [this years final was its lowest rated ever]. Do you disagree with that statement?”
“Youve once again twisted what I said. I said BGT no longer has the cultural impact it used to have. I didn't say it has no cultural impact but that its not of the same magnitude of previous years, as the ratings prove [this years final was its lowest rated ever]. Do you disagree with that statement?”
Strange you say that on the weekend one of it's finalists is set to have break into the top 5 of the singles charts, something even Susan Boyle didn't manage. (Not that I think Gabz is in anyway the next cultural phenomenon!) You and Ice Dragon though have shown your true colours today following Jessie J announcing she's quitting The Voice (and nobody caring) - suddenly you both are more than happy to highlight how hopeless the judges actually were.
Anyway, back to ratings and with the annual BBC1/BBC2 switcheroo with the tennis does anyone have a top ten list of live sporting events on BBC2. I suspect snooker would dominate it, and more recently I remember the curling doing well back in the 2002 Olympics, but would be interesting to see how events not promoted to BBC1 rated.
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Yep my EPG says -
12.50 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final Build Up
1.50-6.00 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final
Danny Cohen said, somewhere I can't remember, that he thinks that the BBC sometimes places too much emphasis on the News always having to start at 10. Perhaps now he's even more senior and overseeing all of TV he's exerting his influence.”
“Yep my EPG says -
12.50 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final Build Up
1.50-6.00 Wimbledon 2013: Men's Final
Danny Cohen said, somewhere I can't remember, that he thinks that the BBC sometimes places too much emphasis on the News always having to start at 10. Perhaps now he's even more senior and overseeing all of TV he's exerting his influence.”
And he's clearly wrong. Stable start-time is more important for a programme than ever before.
The terrible scheduling on BBC1 over recent years is a good example of the damage done to audience numbers by having unfixed start times.
Eastenders will be the biggest mass switch off on BBC1 after Andy Murray, Switching over to ITV when they realize they showing Eastenders 
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“ITV had a similar thought back in the day. They've rued that mistake every since.
Messing with News at Ten more frequently or unnecessarily would be pure lunacy. It's the most important broadcast the BBC makes every single day, and 10pm is the perfect slot.”
“ITV had a similar thought back in the day. They've rued that mistake every since.
Messing with News at Ten more frequently or unnecessarily would be pure lunacy. It's the most important broadcast the BBC makes every single day, and 10pm is the perfect slot.”
Indeed. Disruption caused by important live events is understandable, but if the BBC ever get ideas to start pushing the weekday BBC News at Ten back for drama, films etc then they are being very very stupid. BBC News at When would do BBC1 no good, mess up the News Channel and potentially damage Newsnight
Originally Posted by ronant:
“BBC3's 10.30 showing of EastEnders had been replaced by a repeat of last night's Live at the Electric.”
“BBC3's 10.30 showing of EastEnders had been replaced by a repeat of last night's Live at the Electric.”
I can see the reasoning for why they have done that, but it's bound to annoy some people who were planning to watch that showing and were unaware off/unable to watch the 2145 showing. Personally I'd have kept the BBC3 showing as normal
Such a shame that one of the best twists in Big Brother history will no doubt be lost on what could be the lowest rating Friday episode ever.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“You and Ice Dragon though have shown your true colours today following Jessie J announcing she's quitting The Voice (and nobody caring) - suddenly you both are more than happy to highlight how hopeless the judges actually were.
.”
“You and Ice Dragon though have shown your true colours today following Jessie J announcing she's quitting The Voice (and nobody caring) - suddenly you both are more than happy to highlight how hopeless the judges actually were.
.”
I didnt say Jessie J was hopeless, i thought she done a pretty good job in a difficult situation, to be fair to her. I just think it's a good decision for all involved that she's left because now a new coach can come in to inject their own personality to the show, bring a bit of freshness and unpredictability [like how Shakira's gone down in the US], as well as helping reignite press interest ahead of its 3rd series launch. Maybe others said Jessie J was hopeless but I never said that.
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