Your right - neither of them.

Yes, it got 4.5m/23% on Saturday 7 July last year in an identical slot, crushing everything on ITV1:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=962

YFSF will be tougher competition than that little lot, however.

how many times has bbc rolled out indiana jones dont they ever loose the rights to screen them??? seeing as theyve been rolled out every year since 1990! stale bbc1 fans are being spoilt at the moment by good old bbc arnt they lol

A bit tougher than last year but should still deliver the 4million. BBC1 has been quite clever scheduling this summer- theyve not shown much big expensive original stuff but the cheap repeats they have been showing like MBB, Miranda, New Tricks, Die Hard and other movies have all had quite good ratings and often won their slots. They have now saved money so can focus on offering a very competitive Autumn schedule full of expensive original shows.

Oh I don't know if Lapland/Being Eileen can manage 7m at 10 pm on Christmas Eve, I think Citizen Khan can do 4-5m after Mrs Browns Boys- Part 1.

If trends continue, it'll be adjusted up a tenth in the finals. Down about 15% from its first episode and just a tenth (or maybe 2) from last week. For the third week of a new series (let alone a summer series) that's a good hold. It could lose a whole point from where it is and still be renewed.

Considering that NBC's summer scripted entry last night had a 1.0 rating, CBS will be mightily chuffed with high 2's. Depending how America's Got Talent does tonight, Under The Dome could again be the #1 non sports show of the week.

Who even said it would even mention Christmas in the episode, never mind suggest that they'd misrepresent a religion by suggesting that Muslim families celebrate it? If the episode has anything to do with Christmas, it'll probably be through a focus on the family sticking to non-celebration of it whilst the daughter goes off to a friend's house and opens presents "because she's a naughty girl and doesn't stick to Muslim rules". There has been no suggestion whatsoever that the writers are planning to portray the Khan family as "celebrating Christmas because it's what Muslims do". Please calm down.


Good news about the return, although I'm interested to see how they'll explain away putting a 'review of the week show' in the middle of the week...

I thought New Tricks was starting in September again? Although I suppose it might start in August to take over the weeknight drama slot once Luther is done.

Wonder what night they'll put it on this time? It is starting to look a bit vulnerable with all the cast changes and could maybe do with a soft slot this time. Sundays against Downton seems unlikely as isn't George Gently back in September? Mondays against Doc Martin would be a stupid idea as well. Could go on Tuesdays where it could get overnights of c8m as it has done in the past when there's been no drama competition. Although that begs the question of where The Paradise and Last Tango will end up as they took Tuesdays last Autumn. Will they both be ready for Autumn or are we looking at early next year?

The White Queen is one summer tentpole the BBC can point to, although it is struggling a little. If it can hold close to 4m for the rest of the run, I don't think they'll be too displeased. It is a co-production which cuts the cost. Then there's Luther, and possibly new New Tricks although that might be at the end of summer, beginning of autumn, I think you said.

For the record, the two other times since 2006 that Raiders of the Lost Ark has aired on BBC One were as follows (with overnight ratings):

Sun 04/05/08, 20:10: 5.4m (22%)
Wed 05/01/11, 20:10: 4.62m (18.5%)

It's been used fairly sparingly, although it has been on BBC Three five times since 2008.

Knowing that they will get a good figure throwing out any old repeats so why bother making anything new, meanwhile anything new ITV try's nobody bothers even having a look at? Is that really good for TV in general?

Brilliant news about 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown

Easily the highlight of the brilliant channel 4 mashup.

Anyone know how many episodes its got?

Surely that is ITV's fault. Crap retreads of 'Stars in their eyes' , 'Restoration' and 'The Family' don't cut it with anyone.


Surprised to see the dog shows skew so old, Your money their tricks was well ahead in both 16-34's and 18-49


It's 6 episodes iirc and who said C4 was creatively bankrupt

Its doing well but people were quoting news articles saying there's no way it will loose any of its premiere ratings in coming weeks because its that good...

Its lost 3 million viewers from episode 1 to 3... and on sites like tvbythenumbers, last nights episode especially is getting an extremely negative response...

With ratings falling every week its basically "how low can you go?"

The thing with it airing on Channel 5 is, it will maybe premiere with around 1.8 million viewers (my prediction) but it doesnt have the room to keep dropping every week like its dropping on CBS... I think it will average around 1.2 mill on channel 5 (if its lucky) when it airs tbh

It's not on this weekend, it's the Coronation Festival of course. It's on next weekend. The weather will have little to do with whether it wins its slot anyway.


Indeed, though it's amusing that we've now gone from BBC1 showing the same things on Christmas Day every year to BBC1 showing nothing at all on Christmas Day. They've got plenty still to go at even if there isn't a Royle Family (which has been on Christmas Day in the past decade far fewer times than it hasn't, of course).


The news doesn't happen in neat seven day packages, though, does it? There's still going to be a week between shows. You don't have to do topical comedy on a Friday.

Agree with the comments about Citizen Khan. Of course the writers Anil Gupta and Richard Pinto are Asian themselves so it's highly unlikely they would do anything at all offensive or inaccurate. And back in 1998 they did a "Christmas" special of Goodness Gracious Me.


Here we go, then, next week on BBC1 and ITV...

Saturday 13th July, BBC1 7-10pm NEW, ITV 7.30-10.30pm NEW
Sunday 14th July BBC1 8-10pm NEW, ITV 7-10pm NEW
Monday 15th July, BBC1 7-8.30pm and 9-10pm NEW, ITV 7-10pm NEW (but BBC1 has a new programme at 10.35 which ITV don't)
Tuesday 16th July, BBC1 7.30-10pm NEW, ITV 7-10pm NEW
Wednesday 17th July, BBC1 7-10pm NEW, ITV 7-10pm NEW (but again BBC1 has a new programme at 10.35)
Thursday 18th July, BBC1 7.30-10pm NEW, ITV 7-10pm NEW (but again, BBC1 has a new programme at 10.35)
Friday 19th July, BBC1 8-8.30pm NEW, ITV 7-9pm NEW

So, adding all that up, ITV has four hours more new programming in primetime over seven days, although adding in the 10.35 programmes takes that down to less than two hours. Don't think that's much of a difference, given DQF and everything.

And if people want to watch BBC1 repeats, that is entirely the other channels' fault for not making anything new worth watching. Even claiming it's aggressive by BBC1 to put out trusty familair names opposite new ITV programming isn't that much of an argument because ITV used to do that all the time, they were forever putting out Touch Of Frost and Alright On The Night repeats to dent new BBC1 dramas in the nineties and noughties.

And Your Face Sounds Familiar isn't really trying anything new, it's a mainstream light entertainment show. Which is very similar to BBC1's Let's Dance.

Obviously the people saying it wouldn't drop at all were being a bit optimistic - I can think of hardly any US broadcast dramas that have launched and grown. 99% of the time they launch, drop, drop some more. The successful ones level out by episode 5 (and down the line might start to rise again). The unsuccessful ones drop particularly sharply and keep falling.

It's doing well, even if not as well as some overly optimistic predictions online.

Just a small, nerdy note: the +1 shares on DS aren't time-adjusted, so you can't just add the shares together (2.6% at 10pm + 1.7% at 11pm). ITV Media gives the correct +1-included share as 3.5%.

Poor old Under the Dome. If it hadn't been picked up by C5 you sense we wouldn't get regular updates on the quality of the writing and acting. Nor would it's every drop in the US be noted with such meticulous attention to detail and this in turn met with such glee and delight. Indeed, we barely discuss US summer ratings normally.

The reality is it's still rating very well for CBS. Pointless speculating in depth about what might happen here in the UK just yet but C5 had good fortune with the last sci-fi drama they showed Alphas which was blessed with a very loyal following on 5* and that was less well received by the critics overall than UTD so I remain optimistic that it can be a useful and consistent performer for the channel.

If it doesn't, it's no big deal. These mini-series are less of a commitment overall. And it's not the only drama C5 has lined up for the autumn either. There'll be other darts fired at the board and with a bit of luck at least one will hit the target. If not Under the Dome, then something else.

I'm sure someone will ask "Is it OK?" It'll be interesting to see what C4 are airing on Fridays once Million Pound Drop finishes.

I'm pretty sure you were the first to bring up Under the Dome in this thread after it premiered

And its not a mini series..

Doesn't matter about Skins ratings as its the last series

C4 doing Skins no favours though by scheduling the first episode of Run, starring Olivia Colman directly against it next week. E4 and C4 have little UK drama between them so you'd think they could manage to keep them apart.

Why would it offend you? I find that baffling. It is a comedy about a typical Muslim family where the kids are born into British culture. Therefore of course there will be some observing of Christmas even though it wont be a religious one. If you find things like this offensive then how on earth can we claim we are a fully integrated nation?

If Muslims find Christmas so offensive, why do they open up shops and sell Christmas merchandise? You can't find it offensive when it suits you and then profit from it too!

I see the new Drama Channel is doing an ITV as Taggart has been cut off and now its showing a programme of different people doing different activities.

The London Anniversary Games will air on Friday 26th July, beginning on BBC2 for an hour at 7.30pm then switching to BBC1 from 8.30-10pm. BBC1 really should have ditched EastEnders for the night and made a bigger deal of it on BBC1.

C4's coverage of the IPC World Athletics Championships looks to be fairly extensive. It's all on More4 but it's five hours of live coverage a day from 2.15-7.15pm, although with C4's afternoon woes of late perhaps they might as well have put it on the main channel. Sadly though I think Paralympians have had somewhat of a reality check after the huge success of the Paralympics - the event in Birmingham last weekend wasn't exactly well attended.

Yeah that was depressing to look at.