Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“Are you trying to curtail free speech?? Dan talks a lot more sense than you and several others here, you and everyone knows EE is capable of decent ratings, now just because it is in a lull (not the first time) the sniping continues - the constant 'bullying' here needs to stop, I have seen the sniping from you so often. Trust me you are not popular on this forum.”
Oh come off it! It's banter...
And you can put away the "bullying" card thanks, seriously... rivalry between fans of networks/soaps on DS is so standard, perhaps inappropriate for the Ratings Thread (though not entirely) but it's just friendly most of the time.
Sometimes people get a bit heated and passionate about things, I'm one of those people sometimes and I've had my mental moments, but I don't really care too much. I am aware this is an internet forum and not my real life...
But thanks for letting me know I'm so unpopular mate.

PM'd you my details so you can add me to your Christmas card list.
As for EastEnders, this "lull" is a way of life, IN MY OPINION, and it's still making me cringe when I watch it now. The new Peter Beale is a joke, the amount of silly recasts is atrocious, Tanya's exit was poor for an established character, Zainab's exist was odd... previously amazing characters like Janine, Kat and Phil are shadows of their past selves, I could go on.
I used to be a huge fan of EastEnders in the circa Who Shot Phil days when the likes of Pauline Fowler, Pat Butcher, Janine, Barry, Roy, Jamie Mitchell, Sonia, Mel, Steve Owen, Lisa, Dan etc were in it; the cast was amazing then and the stories were so well told. They're just a few names I've remembered off the top of my head and there are bound to be more. I loved it through the Slater years with Zoe/Kat, the whole Little Mo/Trevor thing and the like.
It went badly downhill in 2004(?) ish under Louise Berridge and I hated characters like Dennis, Roxy, the weird Moon brothers, Johnny Allen etc - it was terrible then. Then it got worse, and worse, then it got a bit better for the 25th anniversary with a great live episode. But it never recovered from the extra work put in to that. Ever.
IMO. The Christmas reveal of Max/Stacey's affair was also another example of the show being on fine form.
Other than that it's been paper fairground disasters, bad recasts, terrible stories like Heather being killed after giving birth to Darren Miller's baby (the Miller family, another flop... the Ferreiras too...) Phil Mitchell getting addicted to crack, Tanya burying Max alive in the woods, all far fetched rubbish.
The ruining of Kat/Alfie, the atrocious baby swap and bad treatment of great actors and actresses like Samantha Womack, people quitting left right and centre, the established cast disappearing, family units breaking down, new characters being awful, poor writing, poor pacing, poor characterisation.
So I think I have enough reasons behind me to not be happy with the show and no amount of hype is going to change my opinion; if and only if it's worthy of credit again will I praise it.
And frankly it's going to take a miracle at this point with the fabric of what made the show so great in the past so dismembered.
And I haven't even mentioned a rival soap, so put that in your pipe and smoke it - bully!