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The Ratings Thread (Part 50)
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jda135
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Two bits of C4 news:
* They've ordered The Complainers from Dragonfly, a six-part series looking at the UK’s burgeoning complaints culture and its impact on industry.
* One Born Every Minute is moving from Leeds General Infirmary to Bristol's Southmead Hospital for its next series. More significantly the episode order has increased nearly 50% from 14 episodes to 20 episodes.
http://www.c21media.net/archives/118283”

I think that the 20-order run for One Born might just be the end of the show.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“
Code:
Channel		Weekly Reach	Average Viewing (hrs:mns)	Share
Channel 4	29,939,000	0:58				3.8%
Channel 4+1	10,160,000	0:10				0.7%
Channel 5	24,688,000	1:01				4.0%
Channel 5+1	4,525,000	0:05				0.3%
As my favourite racing commentator might say, "TIGHT! It's desperate. They go past together."

C4+1 was the difference here. It's been around for longer, crucially has a far better Freeview EPG position and is still maintaining a healthy advantage over C5+1 despite that not being true of the parent channels. Note also that C4 is still a good 5 million ahead in terms of reach. But C5's viewers are watching for on average 3 minutes longer.

ITV3 was a distant sixth on 2.9%.”

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“yes but its Four doing worse not Five doing better. Its like passing a car with two flat tires that continues to try to drive down the motorway.”

I agree with you on that George. I know that the weather was amazing, and that Wimbledon will certainly have skewed ratings, but Channel 5 was relatively flat week-on-week compared with Channel 4. With +1, a gap of 0.2 percentage points (or a 4.4% difference) it was mighty close between the two. With these figures, I think it's clear to say that now it's 'Channel 4 in Crisis'!
seansnotmyname@
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Lol are you serious???

Ex Corrie Star, Ex Towie Star, Ex Shamless Star...2 tv chefs... Yeah, sounds brilliant!

I said it when it was announced, and i'll say it again....It sounds blooming awful!”

Yep, it's Reality TV by numbers, all of them have done it before. Even the show is very similar to others.

The presenters are interesting and new though. They certainly need fresh blood, I was expecting Kate Walsh and Jeff Brazier....
all_night
15-07-2013
Big Brother should see a slight boost tonight with the incident last night and removal today of housemate.
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Yep, it's Reality TV by numbers, all of them have done it before. Even the show is very similar to others.

The presenters are interesting and new though. They certainly need fresh blood, I was expecting Kate Walsh and Jeff Brazier....”

The irish guy presents The Voice of Ireland....he's not the best presenter and very inexperienced, but yeah, anyone is better then those two
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Big Brother should see a slight boost tonight with the incident last night and removal today of housemate.”

EDIT: Yup looks like he's been removed

He slapped a girl on the arse ffs
all_night
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“There was no removal of a housemate....

He slapped a girl on the arse ffs”

He has been removed. Not removed in the sense picked up and chucked over the fence, but removed from the show.

And yes i agree an over reaction, but this is not place to discuss it.
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by all_night:
“He has been removed. Not removed in the sense picked up and chucked over the fence, but removed from the show.

And yes i agree an over reaction, but this is not place to discuss it.”

Why bring it up then? I commented on your initial post so...
all_night
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Why bring it up then? I commented on your initial post so...”

I mentioned it because it is likely to affect ratings tonight. You brought up the incident itself.
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by all_night:
“I mentioned it because it is likely to affect ratings tonight. You brought up the incident itself.”

.....




Anyway, Run should pull in decent numbers tonight! Probably trail of during the week but it looks good
Dancc
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Lol are you serious???

Ex Corrie Star, Ex Towie Star, Ex Shamless Star...2 tv chefs... Yeah, sounds brilliant!

I said it when it was announced, and i'll say it again....It sounds blooming awful!”

It's an interesting one to evaluate in terms of ratings potential, which was what I was trying to do. Presumably the money for this has come from the part of the budget no longer allocated to The Bachelor, which went from being a strong performer to a flop in the space of two series, and it did this despite the production values remaining exactly the same, the format remaining exactly the same and with much higher promotion than the first series. So this tells us that casting was absolutely key to that show's success or failure and Spencer Matthews was too much of a non-entity for it to work. At least with something like Celeb Super Spa, there is a bigger lineup of celebs so it isn't entirely dependent on that one personality grabbing the attention of viewers.

I've noticed you haven't commented on this advert for an upcoming C4 show yet ? If it was for something on C5 we wouldn't have heard the end of it from you. Celeb Super Spa's biggest crime so far as a programme not yet even broadcast is that it's a wee bit trashy sounding, but at least it seems to have some sort of purpose other than demeaning women.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTWLDtCMAAqgsN.jpg:large
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
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I've noticed you haven't commented on this advert for an upcoming C4 show yet ? If it was for something on C5 we wouldn't have heard the end of it from you. Celeb Super Spa's biggest crime so far as a programme not yet even broadcast is that it's a wee bit trashy sounding, but at least it seems to have some sort of purpose other than demeaning women.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTWLDtCMAAqgsN.jpg:large”

Where would I have seen that?? There's been no adverts on tv yet
Of course its trashy!

The Bachelor flopped because that nobody from MiC was on it..Wasn't there talk of a Bachelorette?

I've seen the celebrity spa type show before on TV3 is ireland...its just a really bad format.
Dancc
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Where would I have seen that?? There's been no adverts on tv yet
Of course its trashy!”

That doesn't stop you slagging off every C5 commission under the sun. It's funny how you're so clued up on everything they have in the pipeline and hate pretty much all of it but with C4 you turn a blind eye and just focus on the good and worthy stuff. I still want to know what your opinion is of this "major new show" they've ordered from Dragonfly that is looking for girls who will, I quote, be "celebrating the end of [their] exams by busting out [their] bikini." Will a grubby sounding show like this dig C4 out of their current hole?
all_night
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“.....




Anyway, Run should pull in decent numbers tonight! Probably trail of during the week but it looks good ”

Oh yes - the promo which have been running pricked my interest in that. I'd go with around 1.5 million, i know its lower than some figures i've seen predicted here.
johnnymc
15-07-2013
I've quite liked what Stephenson has done for BBC Drama. I think hes created more success than had failures on balance . I did wonder when the war of the roses was being commisioned as its such a long serial however its not been a complete disaster. It lacks a bit of depth as its a historical Dallas but I do think there isn't any other network trying this historival fiction out so it is experimental and its appearing in the top ten programmes on the channel every week. I doubt he would hurry another series. The Fall and Top of the Lake have also been distinctive and Stevenson must have had a hand in bringing them both to BBC Two. Broadchurch is the only recent itv drama that leapt out. I think Ben is quite an asset to BBC Drama and would have made an interesting controller of One or Two.

Regards EastEnders I dont think hes really totally linked to it. I thought Kate Harwood was his second in command to oversee serial drama. The thing about such a machine as EastEnders is that so many people have a hand in it surely. Newman will only head the team. She is someway responsible for its lack of movement but that is also down to who she decides to hire round about her. Her judgement on who she brings in to create the stories and ideas are crucial to bringing her a successful show
dullagj2
15-07-2013
Code:
1. WIMBLEDON (SUN 1250): 10.32m *
2. CORONATION STREET (MON 2029): 9m
3. EASTENDERS (MON 2001): 7.94m
4. THE APPRENTICE (WED 2101): 7.53m
5. EMMERDALE (TUE 1901): 6.76m
6. LUTHER (TUE 2101): 6.43m
7. TOP GEAR (SUN 2019): 5.31m
8. FORMULA ONE: THE GERMAN GRAND PRIX HL (SUN 1800: 5.26m
9. COUNTRYFILE (SUN 1959): 5.16m
10. LONG LOST FAMILY (MON 2100: 5.15m exc.HD
*subject to change

Official Soap Ratings w/c 1st July:
Coronation Street
Mon: 8.9m (+700k) & 9m (+850k)
Wed: 8.32m (+1.12m)
Fri: 6.7m* (+1.16m) & 6.35m* (+1.49m!)

EastEnders
Mon: 7.94m (+1.06m)
Tues: 7.6m (+660k)
Thurs: 6.97m (+580k)
Fri: 6.44m (+870k)

Emmerdale
Mon: 6.72m (+480k)
Tues: 6.76m (+650k)
Wed: 5.75m* (+470k)
Thurs: 6.56m (+450k) & 6.39m (+530k)
Fri: 4.94m* (+410k) exc.HD

*Wimbledon clash
Joe40
15-07-2013
Big Brother - the slap/assault/joke/aggression (judge for yourselves, as said, this isn't the thread so I'll just leave it here)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11...n#.UeQmZ42bMzM
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“That doesn't stop you slagging off every C5 commission under the sun. It's funny how you're so clued up on everything they have in the pipeline and hate pretty much all of it but with C4 you turn a blind eye and just focus on the good and worthy stuff. I still want to know what your opinion is of this "major new show" they've ordered from Dragonfly that is looking for girls who will, I quote, be "celebrating the end of [their] exams by busting out [their] bikini." Will a grubby sounding show like this dig C4 out of their current hole?”

ROFL...as I said, It hasn't been advertised on tv so where would I have seen it??

As I said, it looks awful! ... something that you would see on BBC3 or ITV2...I've no interest in it...




Also, I have to ask, what it Channel 5's highest ever viewing figure?? like 8 Million maybe? Someone in the BB forum thinks tonights BB will shatter its viewier record!! lol
Dancc
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Also, I have to ask, what it Channel 5's highest ever viewing figure??”

5.6m for England v Poland in 2000.

Clearly not going to be topped tonight but BB might be boosted slightly.
Servalan
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“So the 'experimental' aspect was to commission ten episodes instead of the usual six or eight?

Hmm...I'm not convinced by that at all.”

The ten episodes isn't such a surprise when you bear in mind the main co-producer with the BBC on The White Queen is Starz - which also co-produced ten episodes of Torchwood: Miracle Day ...
seansnotmyname@
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“ROFL...as I said, It hasn't been advertised on tv so where would I have seen it??

As I said, it looks awful! ... something that you would see on BBC3 or ITV2...I've no interest in it...




Also, I have to ask, what it Channel 5's highest ever viewing figure?? like 8 Million maybe? Someone in the BB forum thinks tonights BB will shatter its viewier record!! lol”

To be fair he did mention for c5, I don't think anyone thinks it will be getting over 10 million.

Have to say, outside the "BB bubble", it's not a big deal, unlike in those heady days. Probably, as dancc says, a slight rise. 1.6-7 I'd say.
SamuelW
15-07-2013
Looks like BBC are going to win back FA Cup rights:

Rob BuddenVerified account ‏@RobertoBud
Hearing that bids for FA Cup TV rights have been whittled down to just BT and the BBC..... #BTsport #facup

Unconfirmed but it appears the FA Cup will be back on its rightful home. Great news for all football fans.
Hassaan13
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Someone in the BB forum thinks tonights BB will shatter its viewier record!! lol”

If it got just a million yesterday, there's no way it's going to jump 4 million just because someone was removed from the show.
Hassaan13
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Unconfirmed but it appears the FA Cup will be back on its rightful home. Great news for all football fans.”

Have you seen any reactions from football fans?
SamuelW
15-07-2013
BBC (apparently) winning back the FA Cup rights is great buy for them because it will boost their ratings shares even further on 6 to 10 weekends/replay nights of the year. They will now have Six Nations and FA Cup dominating the first quarter weekend daytime, then FA Cup and F1 in Q2 and F1 in third quarter. Ratings for the standard matches should go up as well due to extra publicity and exposure of the competition so FA wins this way too.

But how did the BBC manage to make such a competitive bid bearing in mind they have a reduced budget due to DQF? I hope other rights such as F1 or 6Nations aren't at risk of being let go from the BBC.
fodg09
15-07-2013
Suspect there is the possibility of first choice matches being on BT.
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