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The Ratings Thread (Part 50)
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ChrisE
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Rowan Hedge:
“And what about Newman?, no point in getting rid of the performing monkey if the organ grinder is kept on.

I echo everything about Stephenson, clear case of someon promoted way above his intelligence/competency level, The White Queen is a unmitageted disaster hence why it got a summer airing.

I just realised you mentioned Atlantis, is this in addition to the BBC's Musketeers drama for Saturday nights.”

Gosh, not the sort of OTT comment, that we usually get on this thread.
SamuelW
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Suspect there is the possibility of first choice matches being on BT.”

Even if BT get first picks, at least some kind of matches are back on the BBC. Second or third pick matches should still offer quite good games.
F1Ken
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Looks like BBC are going to win back FA Cup rights:

Rob BuddenVerified account ‏@RobertoBud
Hearing that bids for FA Cup TV rights have been whittled down to just BT and the BBC..... #BTsport #facup

Unconfirmed but it appears the FA Cup will be back on its rightful home. Great news for all football fans.”

Samuel just for once I will celebrate with you!

That's a big uplift for the BBC in my opinion. As the previous poster said 1st picks may go to BT But I'm not sure the FA would want that.

I really never in my life would have thought Aunty would get the cup back. I thought they were down and out to be honest.

Anyway back to my normal on the fence style!

Ken
SamuelW
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“I really never in my life would have thought Aunty would get the cup back. I thought they were down and out to be honest.

Anyway back to my normal on the fence style!

Ken”

Looks like the FA finally saw sense and instead of going with the highest bidder [almost certainly Itv bid more than bbc], they went with the broadcaster who would offer better coverage, more publicity, exposure and higher ratings for the competition. Itv had their chance between 08-13 but they made some fatal errors such as missing key goals, having too many adverts and bad host/pundits like Chiles & Townsend so it appears the FA has reverted back to the tried and tested quality coverage that they know the BBC can deliver. Good to see some proper live club football back on the Beeb finally.
GeorgeS
15-07-2013
So no confirmation no idea of picks or cost or even if its a done deal and short memories too - remember last time? Ill wait for something official
F1Ken
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Looks like the FA finally saw sense and instead of going with the highest bidder [almost certainly Itv bid more than bbc], they went with the broadcaster who would offer better coverage, more publicity, exposure and higher ratings for the competition. Itv had their chance between 08-13 but they made some fatal errors such as missing key goals, having too many adverts and bad host/pundits like Chiles & Townsend so it appears the FA has reverted back to the tried and tested quality coverage that they know the BBC can deliver. Good to see some proper live club football back on the Beeb finally.”

That's important in my opinion. How can our national Broadcaster not show our national Game live? I personally didn't think ITV did to badly but I'm happy to see it go back to the beeb. I know it's subjective but I felt it was always at home their. That's probably me being my funny old self as usual.

Wonder where the England Friendlies will go?

Ken
F1Ken
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“So no confirmation no idea of picks or cost or even if its a done deal and short memories too - remember last time? Ill wait for something official”

What the infamous CL deal!

Your right though. Still a while to wait until conformation I reckon.

Ken
SamuelW
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“So no confirmation no idea of picks or cost or even if its a done deal and short memories too - remember last time? Ill wait for something official”

Rob Budden of the Financial Times is a reliable source. While it's not a 100% done deal, what he said is quite telling and it appears the BBC are now odds on to get the terrestrial rights back. What happened last time by the way?
GeorgeS
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Rob Budden of the Financial Times is a reliable source. While it's not a 100% done deal, what he said is quite telling and it appears the BBC are now odds on to get the terrestrial rights back. What happened last time by the way?”

Early leaked rumours flushed out a higher bid overnight
F1Ken
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Early leaked rumours flushed out a higher bid overnight”

That's true. I don't know if it would be aloud though. The deadline may have passed.

Ken
Dancc
15-07-2013
ITV's cup coverage had ran its course. The trouble is the profile of the tournament is not what it once was and ITV did nothing whatsoever to move the coverage forwards or make it more compelling. If anything it being on ITV was an additional turnoff on top of what was often unattractive ties in unattractive viewing slots.

It makes sense for it to be between the BBC, who are now very short on live football and could certainly move the coverage forwards by making it feel more special and regaining some of that lost interest, and BT who are looking to rapidly build their portfolio of sports rights in order to go to war with BSkyB. Perhaps they'll share the rights between them, that would be my preferred outcome.
GBali
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by andrewskatie143:
“Also, are there any new dramas starting before the 'big autumn' - when does quirke from the bbc start? Might be interesting- I have read the books and I've always thought after the success of CTM, the bbc should do more dramas set in the 1950/60s. But what do I know?”

Quirke should start in less than a month. It's released on DVD on August 26.
It will be interesting to se how it rates with a big name like Gabriel Byrne.

The White Queen is a disappointment, both in the ratings and in terms of quality.
Salv*
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“If it got just a million yesterday, there's no way it's going to jump 4 million just because someone was removed from the show.”

It got 1.46m last night, the highest Sunday show in 3 weeks, but yes the OTT ratings are, well, OTT. It will go to 1.6m at best IMO.
mrmattybeck
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“It got 1.46m last night, the highest Sunday show in 3 weeks, but yes the OTT ratings are, well, OTT. It will go to 1.6m at best IMO.”

Tonight should be explosive 1.8m prediction for bb
mrmattybeck
15-07-2013
As I massive die hard bb fan myself I know it won't get near to 3-4m viewers closer to 2m I think it's a shame someone had to be booted out though this twist has seriously backfired on c5 but spat from this its been a great series
GoshBagosh
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by mrmattybeck:
“Tonight should be explosive 1.8m prediction for bb”

Nobody except BB fans care


I'll go with 1.4 (1.5 +1)
big dan
15-07-2013
I doubt tonights BB will see much of a rise. For its more casual fanbase the highlights show is the event telly, and the events are followed and directly via them. It's just not the big 24/7 experience it once was at all, with people chewing at the bit to keep up with events as they happen. I personally wasn't even aware of this incident until it was mentioned here.
Glenn A
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“ITV's cup coverage had ran its course. The trouble is the profile of the tournament is not what it once was and ITV did nothing whatsoever to move the coverage forwards or make it more compelling. If anything it being on ITV was an additional turnoff on top of what was often unattractive ties in unattractive viewing slots.

It makes sense for it to be between the BBC, who are now very short on live football and could certainly move the coverage forwards by making it feel more special and regaining some of that lost interest, and BT who are looking to rapidly build their portfolio of sports rights in order to go to war with BSkyB. Perhaps they'll share the rights between them, that would be my preferred outcome.”

The only drawback for ITV will be from January 2015, and this is assuming the rights have gone back to the BBC for definite, they will have another five Tuesday flopzones on their hands. However, maybe being freed from the contract on Saturdays and Sundays as well, could see an alternative being created.
Also for BBC One, where the ratings pressures aren't so high, getting this contract back fulfils their PSB requirements by covering the smaller matches and also gains them some live football for three or four years outside of the international tournaments.
Brekkie
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yeah, I don't know what the thinking was behind Dates. First three episodes Mon-Wed then Tue-Wed thereafter. Why complicate things unnecessarily? I know the era of appointment-to-view is basically behind us, but even so, the laziness of viewers should not be underestimated. If you make a series hard to follow, people likely won't bother. And 4OD viewers won't get you out of jail. Similarly the situation with Run/Skins is madness. But C4 have previous here as well with E4's Misfits clashing directly with originals on C4 including Black Mirror, Peep Show and Friday Night Dinner for its past two series. Avoidable clashes in each case.

The family of C4 digital channels is very much something for them to be proud of and it's great to see the likes of Film4 thriving (2.3% share yesterday is very strong). But complementary scheduling is key. There should never be a situation where they are taking a significant number of viewers away from eachother. It's all about making sure that C4 family total is as healthy as possible, and you do that by offering alternatives, i.e. drama on 4, film (what else?) on film4, doc on more4, entertainment on E4. It doesn't have to be quite as varied as that all of the time, but when you are spending as much per hour as they will be on shows like Run/Skins, then clashes are counterproductive.”

Well said - completely agree.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Law and order uk began with about 4.6million, beating The White Queen by a clear million”

I think that's what you meant to say.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Head of BBC drama Ben Stephenson has said that although he'd have liked The White Queen to get slightly more viewers, it's not all about ratings: "The truth is this [The White Queen] is what the BBC is all about – taking big risks and giving people the opportunity to do things. I'm really glad we did it."

So according to him, it's more than just the ratings which matter about the White Queen. It's an "experimental" drama featuring a part of our history hardly ever shown on television. Ratings aren't the be all and end all with regard to the white queen, and a fairly mediocre crime drama which is simple to understand was always more likely to win this particular ratings battlle.”

Funny how ratings don't matter when they're bad. If they're so unimportant to the BBC what on earth are you doing in this thread?

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Two bits of C4 news:
* They've ordered The Complainers from Dragonfly, a six-part series looking at the UK’s burgeoning complaints culture and its impact on industry.
* One Born Every Minute is moving from Leeds General Infirmary to Bristol's Southmead Hospital for its next series. More significantly the episode order has increased nearly 50% from 14 episodes to 20 episodes.
http://www.c21media.net/archives/118283”

If there truly was One Born Every Minute they could reduce the episode count to 1.

Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“The Fall won't be back for a LONG time apparently.... Gillian Anderson has 2 NBC series to film, Hannibal and Crisis..I wonder if BBC would consider moving it to BBC1 for series 2?”

Doubt it - other than Torchwood (which was nothing more than a Doctor Who vanity project) I can't recall a drama being promoted from BBC2 to BBC1.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“BBC (apparently) winning back the FA Cup rights is great buy for them because it will boost their ratings shares even further on 6 to 10 weekends/replay nights of the year. They will now have Six Nations and FA Cup dominating the first quarter weekend daytime, then FA Cup and F1 in Q2 and F1 in third quarter. Ratings for the standard matches should go up as well due to extra publicity and exposure of the competition so FA wins this way too.

But how did the BBC manage to make such a competitive bid bearing in mind they have a reduced budget due to DQF? I hope other rights such as F1 or 6Nations aren't at risk of being let go from the BBC.”

Many factors. Firstly the BBC have made signfiicant savings already with the F1 Sky deal and losing rights such as Moto GP and the major race meetings.

Secondly the FA Cup isn't as attractive as it once was - probably down to being on ITV for a few years. Ironically it's the BBC who price themselves out of the market by seemingly doing so much better with the FA Cup, so it gets to a point where they can't afford it, ITV steal it - then a few years later it's back down to a price the BBC is able to afford.

Thirdly and most importantly this is the first time in a long time they're not packaged with England competitive games - so the BBC can probably get about 80% of the games that ITV had for less than 50% of the price. ITV were much more interesting in retaining the England rights.
Chris1964
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by GBali:
“Quirke should start in less than a month. It's released on DVD on August 26.
It will be interesting to se how it rates with a big name like Gabriel Byrne.

The White Queen is a disappointment, both in the ratings and in terms of quality.”

Its hard to disagree with that, though its not the worst ever by any means.
People are giving up on it and probably one reason for this is that it is difficult to keep up with who everyone is. People come and go, switch sides and die constantly. And as has been said by me and others , its not an era that has had much tv exposure. Law and Order is far more acceptable and comfortable fayre seemingly after a hard day with the sun cream.
EDIT-me with the after sun too after being burnt to a crisp watching Cricket today.
Hassaan13
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Funny how ratings don't matter when they're bad. If they're so unimportant to the BBC what on earth are you doing in this thread?.”

+1. But just a correction, they don't seem to matter when they are bad for the BBC (most of the time).
GeorgeS
15-07-2013
Can't wait to see Wigan vs Huddersfield followed by Hansen, Shearer and Lawrenson as lead into The Voice next year. That should solve its problems.

On a side note Five were not mentioned in relation to theFA cup bidding at all. Are we to presume they did not submit a bid?
Brekkie
15-07-2013
More good news from the BBC - they've won the rights for Wales autumn internationals through to 2018.
Zac Quinn
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Chris Froome is on course to win the Tour de France this Sundayt. I wonder if Itv will get rid of their Sunday prime time lineup of Tipping Point and Mr & Mrs to show this big sporting moment on their main channel? Last year they showed Bradley Wiggins' victory on the main channel.”

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“The Tour de France isn't being talked about or mentioned anywhere near as much as Wimbledon or any other sporting events were.

For the record, how last year's Tour de France final rated:

ITV
14:00-17:00 - Tour de France Live - 1.34m (11.96%)
* +1 43k (0.34%)
* combined average 2m
* ITV1 peak 2.6m
* combined peak 3.55m (28.19%) @ 4:20pm


ITV4
14:00-17:00 - Tour de France Live - 621k (5.5%)
+1 6,800 (0.05%)
* combined peak 3.55m (28.19%) @ 4:20pm


ITV aren't going to drop two of their solid raters on a Sunday night, unless they really have to.”

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“A combined average of 2m and peak of 3.6m in the afternoon means this would probably get 3-4m in prime time and peak of 4-5million if shown exclusively on the main channel, better than what ASMM and Tipping Point rate and better demos too.”

Probably worth pointing out that Sir Bradley had already won Le Tour before the final stage of the race last year - that'll be a significant factor in those ratings looking a bit flat.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Looks like BBC are going to win back FA Cup rights:

Rob BuddenVerified account ‏@RobertoBud
Hearing that bids for FA Cup TV rights have been whittled down to just BT and the BBC..... #BTsport #facup

Unconfirmed but it appears the FA Cup will be back on its rightful home. Great news for all football fans.”

Fantastic news for the BBC, and for the world's greatest domestic football competition.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“More good news from the BBC - they've won the rights for Wales autumn internationals through to 2018.”

The WRU were never going to let them go to Sky though, let's be honest, and the BBC will be slightly relieved at that because otherwise they'd only have Scotland left.
Brekkie
15-07-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“The WRU were never going to let them go to Sky though, let's be honest, and the BBC will be slightly relieved at that because otherwise they'd only have Scotland left.”

Never take anything for granted when it comes to live sport on TV. It was widely reported last year that a deal with Sky was all but signed and that as a sweetner the WRU were looking for Sky to make itself available in rugby clubs across the country.

And as I said, never take anything for granted so as only one match in the FA Cup is protected there is a slim chance that the final could be the only match the BBC air live, with everything else on BT Sport. The way the rights were sold though suggested you have to have at least one match per round plus a replay to air the final - but BT could have won all the rights and then be sub-licencning the final as they'd be required to do.
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