Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yeah, I don't know what the thinking was behind Dates. First three episodes Mon-Wed then Tue-Wed thereafter. Why complicate things unnecessarily? I know the era of appointment-to-view is basically behind us, but even so, the laziness of viewers should not be underestimated. If you make a series hard to follow, people likely won't bother. And 4OD viewers won't get you out of jail. Similarly the situation with Run/Skins is madness. But C4 have previous here as well with E4's Misfits clashing directly with originals on C4 including Black Mirror, Peep Show and Friday Night Dinner for its past two series. Avoidable clashes in each case.
The family of C4 digital channels is very much something for them to be proud of and it's great to see the likes of Film4 thriving (2.3% share yesterday is very strong). But complementary scheduling is key. There should never be a situation where they are taking a significant number of viewers away from eachother. It's all about making sure that C4 family total is as healthy as possible, and you do that by offering alternatives, i.e. drama on 4, film (what else?) on film4, doc on more4, entertainment on E4. It doesn't have to be quite as varied as that all of the time, but when you are spending as much per hour as they will be on shows like Run/Skins, then clashes are counterproductive.”
Well said - completely agree.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Law and order uk began with about 4.6million, beating The White Queen by a clear million”
I think that's what you meant to say.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Head of BBC drama Ben Stephenson has said that although he'd have liked The White Queen to get slightly more viewers, it's not all about ratings: "The truth is this [The White Queen] is what the BBC is all about – taking big risks and giving people the opportunity to do things. I'm really glad we did it."
So according to him, it's more than just the ratings which matter about the White Queen. It's an "experimental" drama featuring a part of our history hardly ever shown on television. Ratings aren't the be all and end all with regard to the white queen, and a fairly mediocre crime drama which is simple to understand was always more likely to win this particular ratings battlle.”
Funny how ratings don't matter when they're bad. If they're so unimportant to the BBC what on earth are you doing in this thread?
Originally Posted by
Dancc:
“Two bits of C4 news:
* They've ordered The Complainers from Dragonfly, a six-part series looking at the UK’s burgeoning complaints culture and its impact on industry.
* One Born Every Minute is moving from Leeds General Infirmary to Bristol's Southmead Hospital for its next series. More significantly the episode order has increased nearly 50% from 14 episodes to 20 episodes.
http://www.c21media.net/archives/118283”
If there truly was One Born Every Minute they could reduce the episode count to 1.
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“The Fall won't be back for a LONG time apparently.... Gillian Anderson has 2 NBC series to film, Hannibal and Crisis..I wonder if BBC would consider moving it to BBC1 for series 2?”
Doubt it - other than Torchwood (which was nothing more than a Doctor Who vanity project) I can't recall a drama being promoted from BBC2 to BBC1.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“BBC (apparently) winning back the FA Cup rights is great buy for them because it will boost their ratings shares even further on 6 to 10 weekends/replay nights of the year. They will now have Six Nations and FA Cup dominating the first quarter weekend daytime, then FA Cup and F1 in Q2 and F1 in third quarter. Ratings for the standard matches should go up as well due to extra publicity and exposure of the competition so FA wins this way too.
But how did the BBC manage to make such a competitive bid bearing in mind they have a reduced budget due to DQF? I hope other rights such as F1 or 6Nations aren't at risk of being let go from the BBC.”
Many factors. Firstly the BBC have made signfiicant savings already with the F1 Sky deal and losing rights such as Moto GP and the major race meetings.
Secondly the FA Cup isn't as attractive as it once was - probably down to being on ITV for a few years. Ironically it's the BBC who price themselves out of the market by seemingly doing so much better with the FA Cup, so it gets to a point where they can't afford it, ITV steal it - then a few years later it's back down to a price the BBC is able to afford.
Thirdly and most importantly this is the first time in a long time they're not packaged with England competitive games - so the BBC can probably get about 80% of the games that ITV had for less than 50% of the price. ITV were much more interesting in retaining the England rights.