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Old 03-07-2013, 23:48
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Ok I'm strongly against a female lesbian doctor, however whats so bad about a black male?

Surely race doesn't matter seeing as River Song has changed race? Okay maybe an African/Jamaican accent would be too much but surely if it was a British black actor it would be fine? I understand with all the Bond fans complaining about a black actor for that role but surely The Doctor is different seeing as his change of appearance is always explained and has been revealed that he can change race.
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Old 03-07-2013, 23:51
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What is wrong with picking the best actor for the role regardless of their skin colour? Just because there hasn't been a black doctor doesn't mean there is any discrimination towards black actors.
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Old 04-07-2013, 00:06
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Who said there was anything bad about a black doctor? Contentious thread title there as its starting from an assumption people have a problem with it. Do they? I don't.

A female doctor on the other hand is the end of the show.
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Old 04-07-2013, 00:25
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Absolutely nothing. Move along. Yawn.
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Old 04-07-2013, 00:27
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This is racist and discriminating why black!

Why not

Asian

Chinese

Japanese

Sikh

Buddist

Aboriginal

Peru

Brazilian

Why does it have to be always white or black, man or woman ?
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Old 04-07-2013, 00:29
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the gingers haven't even been represented yet and they aren't moaning about it, even with the doc wanting it
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Old 04-07-2013, 00:59
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Who said there was anything bad about a black doctor? Contentious thread title there as its starting from an assumption people have a problem with it. Do they? I don't.

A female doctor on the other hand is the end of the show.
This ^^^

There are a number of actors who would be good in the role, irrespective of the fact they're black. A female Doctor would kill the show stone dead.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:01
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If height, nose shape and hair colour can change after a regeneration, then I don't see why skin colour can't change too.

The only problem I see is in stories set in England in the distant past. How would people who had never seen a black person before react to one? Then again I recall that in both "Victory Of The Daleks" and "Vincent and the Doctor" Amy wore a not very contemporaneous short skirt and nobody batted an eyelid, so the likelihood is that nobody would bat an eyelid in 12th Century (or whenever) London when they see a very uncommon for the time non-white face.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:09
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Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I think it would be great. The only people who might think there is are those who repeat the ' it should be the best actor for the job' line. Sigh!! I'm so bored of hearing this phrase over and over again. In 50 .. Yes 50 years we have only had one black/ BME female companion. Freema must have been the only black actress who was the best one for the job in 50 years then.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:18
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In the end I doubt they'll do it for the same same reason Hallmark made everyone white when they made the earthsea miniseries. They'll be scared of alienating viewers.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:18
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If height, nose shape and hair colour can change after a regeneration, then I don't see why skin colour can't change too.

The only problem I see is in stories set in England in the distant past. How would people who had never seen a black person before react to one? Then again I recall that in both "Victory Of The Daleks" and "Vincent and the Doctor" Amy wore a not very contemporaneous short skirt and nobody batted an eyelid, so the likelihood is that nobody would bat an eyelid in 12th Century (or whenever) London when they see a very uncommon for the time non-white face.
I'm not sure the past was as uniformly white as we think. The 12th century would have seen crusades to the Middle East, parts of Spain were still under in contol of the Moors until the 1400. Earlier the Romans had a black Emperor and their troops came from all parts of their empire. Shakespeare wrote a play with a black leading man - ok probably not played by one but the audience were expected to see the tragedy of his betrayal by a white man. London is a major trading port and would have seen sailors from many different parts of the world.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:35
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Earlier the Romans had a black Emperor
Not what we think of today as 'black', of course. Emperor Septimius Severus was born in Libya and probably had an olive complexion, but his ancestry was Phoenician (Semitic) and Italian. His son the Emperor Caracalla was half-Syrian (also Semitic).

And for myself, I think a black Doctor would be perfectly fine so long as he was brilliant.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:56
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Fair point but he wasn't white and the legions had darker troops. Citizenship was what mattered not colour.

I tend to agree fabulous alienness is my only critera for the doctor. Best actor regardless of all other considerations.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:36
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I thought Paterson Joseph was nailed on to play the 11th doctor,I was disappointed when he was not cast at the time. Maybe he could be the 12th but that bird may have flown the nest by now.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:40
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it would be the biggest mistake in the shows history.what excuse could they come out with to explain the doctors change?it would be ridiculous.i don't belive the bbc would betray the shows history like this so its not going to happen anyway.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:33
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it would be the biggest mistake in the shows history.what excuse could they come out with to explain the doctors change?it would be ridiculous.i don't belive the bbc would betray the shows history like this so its not going to happen anyway.
Your name is very apt.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:37
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That's a bit harsh! I would like an Irish actor to play the Doctor - in his own accent! You know that I mean Damien Molony, of course.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:42
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There was no way in hell a black actor would ever have been cast as the Doctor during its original run. Much as I love the show, it just wouldn't have happened.

The difference since the show came back, I think, is that the exec team are at least open to the idea of a non-white Doctor. I doubt they are using any sort of positive-discrimination in their selection process, but it is (at least) now a genuine possibility and I think that's as it should be.

Its far more likely we'll get a Black Doctor than an openly Gay Doctor.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:09
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it would be the biggest mistake in the shows history.what excuse could they come out with to explain the doctors change?it would be ridiculous.i don't belive the bbc would betray the shows history like this so its not going to happen anyway.
You talk of the show's history but appear to have never watched it. I can highly recommend this box set as a starter. It should explain quite clearly how the Doctor can change appearance:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-R...s=regeneration
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:23
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Its far more likely we'll get a Black Doctor than an openly Gay Doctor.
I see no reason why an openly gay actor should not play the Doctor, although I don't want the character to be gay, and nor do I want him to be straight. I would like to see a return to the apparently asexual (or perhaps "non-sexual" is a better term in this context) Doctor we had during Classic Who.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:31
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There is nothing wrong with having a black Doctor imo as long as it is the right black Doctor, just the same as the right white Doctor, or any other skin tone.

I do think that a female Doctor would be a disaster though.

And I think the Doctor should go back to being asexual as well. No more snogging, fancying companions or getting married!
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:37
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parts of Spain were still under in contol of the Moors until the 1400.
So, are you suggesting we should have a Spanish Doctor? So long as he's played by Roger Delgado as per the '63 film Running Man...



Ah, poor Roger Delgado. Sadly missed. He was, is, and always shall be The Master. No-one else carries the role quite the same.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:51
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Who said there was anything bad about a black doctor? Contentious thread title there as its starting from an assumption people have a problem with it. Do they? I don't.

A female doctor on the other hand is the end of the show.
The Doctor is a different species, so why does sex matter?
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Old 04-07-2013, 13:11
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Having a Black Doctor would be a distraction of which might be damaging for the programme because sadly it would be open up to ridicule (look at the "comments" Michael Jackson got due his change of skin colour).

I really do believe that a significant percentage of the public could not get past such a huge change....
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Old 04-07-2013, 13:15
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I think we need a Chinese Doctor. I will officially stop watching if we don't get one. Officially.
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