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Old 07-07-2013, 23:35
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she's a major liability. She got so many PMs fired by satbotaging taks. The mature dating site is an example, she kept nagiing at the pm and getting him to just give up.

Her victory with the ready meals was a fluke because it was just packaging design - the food was shit and they wont because the opponent was rubbish.

Selling womens fashion for a group of fashionable women is a very easy in a market stall type task.

The guys were clueless because they don't have any insight into fast impulse purchase markets. To be honest - as a guy I wouldn't know what to sell to passing trade. Women on th other hand buy a lot of rubbish clothes they never wear.
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Old 08-07-2013, 00:35
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she's a major liability. She got so many PMs fired by satbotaging taks. The mature dating site is an example, she kept nagiing at the pm and getting him to just give up.

Her victory with the ready meals was a fluke because it was just packaging design - the food was shit and they wont because the opponent was rubbish.

Selling womens fashion for a group of fashionable women is a very easy in a market stall type task.

The guys were clueless because they don't have any insight into fast impulse purchase markets. To be honest - as a guy I wouldn't know what to sell to passing trade. Women on th other hand buy a lot of rubbish clothes they never wear.
I find your comments to be incredibly ignorant, and borderline sexist at some point in regards to 'the girls being able to sell clothes because they're girls' supposed point.

No.

You're so factually incorrect it's actually annoying. Three Project Manager's have been fired in a task that Luisa has lost. Weeks 1, 2 and 8. Jaz, Tim & Jason. Jaz was a self-destructing bomb waiting to happen. She actually stuck up for Jason in the boardroom and was pushing for Uzma to be fired so I don't see how either of those are her callously throwing tasks to get the PM fired.

The only time you have a point, and even then it's not necessarily correct, is on task 8 with Jason. Even then, all she was doing - albeit the completely wrong way- was try to speed up the process. When you have a busy schedule and important deadlines to meet you cannot afford to waste almost an hour on the colour scheme! It was Jason being absolutely ludicrous - and I was a Jason fan! I don't disregard that the way Luisa went about 'nagging' him was silly, though. Then when they went on to the next place Jason actually said that he wanted her to do it all! Jason was although a lovely guy, incompetent, that is why he was fired. He wouldn't be able to run a business whatsoever.

If you're going to debate her credibility in this process atleast know what you're talking about, thanks.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:10
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IShe actually stuck up for Jason in the boardroom and was pushing for Uzma to be fired so I don't see how either of those are her callously throwing tasks to get the PM fired.
I think you mean Tim here rather than Jason, but your comment is generally right. Well said.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:10
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I find your comments to be incredibly ignorant, and borderline sexist at some point in regards to 'the girls being able to sell clothes because they're girls' supposed point.

No.

You're so factually incorrect it's actually annoying. Three Project Manager's have been fired in a task that Luisa has lost. Weeks 1, 2 and 8. Jaz, Tim & Jason. Jaz was a self-destructing bomb waiting to happen. She actually stuck up for Jason in the boardroom and was pushing for Uzma to be fired so I don't see how either of those are her callously throwing tasks to get the PM fired.

The only time you have a point, and even then it's not necessarily correct, is on task 8 with Jason. Even then, all she was doing - albeit the completely wrong way- was try to speed up the process. When you have a busy schedule and important deadlines to meet you cannot afford to waste almost an hour on the colour scheme! It was Jason being absolutely ludicrous - and I was a Jason fan! I don't disregard that the way Luisa went about 'nagging' him was silly, though. Then when they went on to the next place Jason actually said that he wanted her to do it all! Jason was although a lovely guy, incompetent, that is why he was fired. He wouldn't be able to run a business whatsoever.

If you're going to debate her credibility in this process atleast know what you're talking about, thanks.
True but the point is she screamed and shouted at him rather than trying to make sensible, calm decisions. She should have taken control of the situation so they could move on rather than let Jason carry on floundering as he was - so I would argue the point stands. Other than that I would agree with you
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:07
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True but the point is she screamed and shouted at him rather than trying to make sensible, calm decisions. She should have taken control of the situation so they could move on rather than let Jason carry on floundering as he was - so I would argue the point stands. Other than that I would agree with you
The majority of my post was agreeing that the way she went about trying to get Jason to make the final decision was largely wrong, and I would say that was a personal flaw for her. BUT, what she was aiming for was the right idea. Jason needed to hurry it up.

I'm sure she regrets being childish about it now, haha.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:23
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You sometimes have to lose your temper to get your point across, or at least to let others know they havent one. Not everything can always be explained 'nicely'.
In this case Jason seemed to have no idea of 'time' and after spending too much of 'time' still didnt want to be rushed. What else can one do.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:46
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You sometimes have to lose your temper to get your point across, or at least to let others know they havent one. Not everything can always be explained 'nicely'.
In this case Jason seemed to have no idea of 'time' and after spending too much of 'time' still didnt want to be rushed. What else can one do.
I don't think you have to 'lose your temper' to get your point across. Not everything can be explained nicely, but losing your temper is an emotional reaction that I think makes you less credible actually. You should still remain controlled and professional. Having said that, I agree with your overall point and I don't think Luisa actually did lose her temper.
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Old 09-07-2013, 14:05
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Luisa's bragging about her biz turnover in last night's Final 5 episode set alarm bells ringing.

According to her company's last accounts, turnover is only £127,784 and nowhere near the £1m/£2m she claims.

Moreover, anyone with any biz sense would know that turnover means nothing, it's profitability that counts.

Tom G also boasted about turnover last year and of the 4 finalists, his biz idea is the only one that hasn't materialised.
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Old 09-07-2013, 18:56
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She strikes me as having been bankrolled by parents and/or husband. She's very (over?)confident - which is important in business - but doubt she has enough nous to sustain a credible business in her own right...thus I see her being mauled to smithereens...
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Old 09-07-2013, 22:51
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She strikes me as having been bankrolled by parents and/or husband. She's very (over?)confident - which is important in business - but doubt she has enough nous to sustain a credible business in her own right...thus I see her being mauled to smithereens...
Like a lot of these "ordinary housewife" business women (Sophie Mirman from Sock shop - what happened to her !!), they are just "ordinary women" who happen to be children of the super-rich, and married to millionaire bankers - and of course "anyone can be just like me as I am sooooo ordinary".
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Old 09-07-2013, 22:55
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I can't be the only person who saw her "company" was worth this much and thought she was an escort....
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Old 09-07-2013, 23:30
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I can't be the only person who saw her "company" was worth this much and thought she was an escort....
If it was an escort biz, it would be worth far more than that.

It would be cash rich with minimal liabilities.
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Old 09-07-2013, 23:42
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You sometimes have to lose your temper to get your point across, or at least to let others know they havent one. Not everything can always be explained 'nicely'.
In this case Jason seemed to have no idea of 'time' and after spending too much of 'time' still didnt want to be rushed. What else can one do.
You can be nice but firm.

Luisa is just downright rude, I haven't forgotten her rudeness to the hired professionals, she should have been fired immediately for her behaviour towards them, regardless as to whether her team had lost or won or been chosen to be brought back to the boardroom.
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:36
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How can anyone confuse the two? One has a surprisingly astute business brain. The other is a contestant on The Apprentice.
*helpless snort*
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:31
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She strikes me as having been bankrolled by parents and/or husband. She's very (over?)confident - which is important in business - but doubt she has enough nous to sustain a credible business in her own right...thus I see her being mauled to smithereens...
The problem with Louisa, is her ability cant cash the cheques her mouth writes.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:33
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Moreover, anyone with any biz sense would know that turnover means nothing, it's profitability that counts.
No, cash is the most important thing in business. Around 80% of firms that go bust make a profit.
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Old 10-07-2013, 13:20
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Has anyone else been less than kind about Luisa on Twitter and been contacted by her husband?

Things like, 'if you hate her you might as well stop watching' Proper classy there!
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Old 10-07-2013, 13:48
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wow, he seem very protective of a women whose cheated on him!
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Old 10-07-2013, 14:33
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No, cash is the most important thing in business. Around 80% of firms that go bust make a profit.
Cash is important for the survival of a company, but it would take a lot of negligence and total disregard for cash flow for a profitable company to go bust.

It's also far easier to verify profit claims when we don't have access to detailed cash flow forecasts.
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Old 10-07-2013, 14:41
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Has anyone else been less than kind about Luisa on Twitter and been contacted by her husband?

Things like, 'if you hate her you might as well stop watching' Proper classy there!
wow, he seem very protective of a women whose cheated on him!
I see what you mean now after looking at his tweets.

Oliver's even been sending sarky/rude replies to negative tweets about Luisa when they weren't addressed to him or Luisa.

Business must be slow if he's spending so much time on twitter.
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Old 10-07-2013, 15:11
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Cash is important for the survival of a company, but it would take a lot of negligence and total disregard for cash flow for a profitable company to go bust.

It's also far easier to verify profit claims when we don't have access to detailed cash flow forecasts.
Well it happens a lot especially to small businesses. Also I was not talking about verifying claims I am just saying cash is more important than profit. The whole reason why businesses exist is to make money. Also profit is easily manipulated.
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Old 10-07-2013, 15:46
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Escort business did come to mind too.
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Old 13-07-2013, 20:41
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Owning a cupcake shop, and making money are not necessarily compatible

Cupcakes are fashionable, and over priced, but you would have to sell an awful lot to pay the rent etc.

St Albans is a commuterland dormitory town so only good business on high streets would be at weekend.
You are right. St Albans is dead from Monday through Thursday but livens up considerable Fri-Sun. That said having passed by Dixie's cupcakery shop in the market place at weekends - I've never seen it busy. That said she does deliver and supply so it is not all from her retail shop.
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Old 13-07-2013, 22:14
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You are right. St Albans is dead from Monday through Thursday but livens up considerable Fri-Sun. That said having passed by Dixie's cupcakery shop in the market place at weekends - I've never seen it busy. That said she does deliver and supply so it is not all from her retail shop.
I have posted elsewhere that if we are correct that she is proposing to create a wholesaler to supply retail bakery businesses, like hers, then LAS is going to lose his money.

There are NO supply issues or stock issues with the current 3 or 4 national wholesalers - minimum order is £100 and they deliver free once a week. There is actually overcapacity in this market with mergers happening between the big suppliers.

A bakery retailer will only want to do one order to maximise value, so they will need a "one stop shop" for fats, fruits, chocolate, packaging, egg, decorations, paper cases etc.
They will not have a separate order for cupcake decorations

Wholesaling is big warehouses with stuff on pallets - it is not sending glitter by mail order. £250K will not buy an industrial unit, fork trucks, loading bays or the stock necessary.

Hillary Devey from Dragons Den made her millions by moving pallets - it is not glamorous or trendy.
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Old 14-07-2013, 05:13
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Luisa's bragging about her biz turnover in last night's Final 5 episode set alarm bells ringing.

According to her company's last accounts, turnover is only £127,784 and nowhere near the £1m/£2m she claims.

Moreover, anyone with any biz sense would know that turnover means nothing, it's profitability that counts.

Tom G also boasted about turnover last year and of the 4 finalists, his biz idea is the only one that hasn't materialised.
Claude has an impeccable record of rooting out figures that people invent, strange company set ups and made up CVs. If it wasn't accurate someone would have said so. Lord Sugar probably has very good accountants and Lawyers checking all that sort of thing.
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