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Old 07-07-2013, 11:29
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Currently running a Toshiba flat screen SD TV with my Foxsat HDR and interested in upgrading to a HD TV aprox 27-32 in size.

I have recently upgraded my internet to infinity2 which gives me up to 76mb connection so I am also looking to get a media streaming device as well. Already have home plugs so can stream BBC i player. Not very clued up on TV stuff so looking for advice.

I have considered holding on to my current TV for a while but the lack of hdmi connectivity would seem to stop me streaming stuff from the internet to my TV.
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Old 07-07-2013, 13:16
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...the lack of hdmi connectivity would seem to stop me streaming stuff from the internet to my TV.
What makes you think that?
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Old 07-07-2013, 13:18
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Currently running a Toshiba flat screen SD TV with my Foxsat HDR and interested in upgrading to a HD TV aprox 27-32 in size.

I have recently upgraded my internet to infinity2 which gives me up to 76mb connection so I am also looking to get a media streaming device as well. Already have home plugs so can stream BBC i player. Not very clued up on TV stuff so looking for advice.

I have considered holding on to my current TV for a while but the lack of hdmi connectivity would seem to stop me streaming stuff from the internet to my TV.
Is your TV really old?, if it doesn't have HDMI (or DVI) then presumably it pre-dates HD Ready, and could well be SD only.

Any decent modern 'smart' TV should do what you're looking for, top makes are Sony and Panasonic - but whatever the make you need to check specifically what catch-up channels are available, with ITV Player being particularly obscure.
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Old 07-07-2013, 15:12
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What makes you think that?
That's what I'm reading. If you know a workaround let me know ?
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Old 07-07-2013, 15:28
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Is your TV really old?, if it doesn't have HDMI (or DVI) then presumably it pre-dates HD Ready, and could well be SD only.

Any decent modern 'smart' TV should do what you're looking for, top makes are Sony and Panasonic - but whatever the make you need to check specifically what catch-up channels are available, with ITV Player being particularly obscure.
I can already stream BBC i player and ITV player through my 4 year old Humax Freesat box. I am looking to stream other stuff off my computers.

Most of the TV's I see advertised are billed as ' Freeveiw' which I don't need as I use freesat. I already have a tuner in my PVR and thought a TV with HDMI and a Roku or Western digital stream media player would be good ?
Any tips welcome.

My current TV Is early 2000s SD Scart connections Flat screen.
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Old 07-07-2013, 15:36
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That's what I'm reading. If you know a workaround let me know ?
Not familiar with the Foxsat, but AFAIK it's the same as my 1000S. Namely whatever is being output is on both HDMI and SCART. So what is it about internet services that would prevent output on SCART? If there is something then I have learned something new today.
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Old 07-07-2013, 16:06
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Not familiar with the Foxsat, but AFAIK it's the same as my 1000S. Namely whatever is being output is on both HDMI and SCART. So what is it about internet services that would prevent output on SCART? If there is something then I have learned something new today.
I rather think he has been looking at external media players such as WD TV Live.
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Old 07-07-2013, 18:27
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Sorted now. When to maplins and got a Roku streaming box and a adapter to connect to the scart on my TV.
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Old 07-07-2013, 21:19
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Already have home plugs so can stream BBC i player.
Well you need to get rid of those for a start and put in a proper CAT 5 cable.

Homeplugs are bad technology which cause interference to your neighbours as they use the mains wiring in a way it is not intended to be used.

Lots of preivous threads about this, here are 3.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt
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Old 07-07-2013, 21:46
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Well you need to get rid of those for a start and put in a proper CAT 5 cable.

Homeplugs are bad technology which cause interference to your neighbours as they use the mains wiring in a way it is not intended to be used.

Lots of preivous threads about this, here are 3.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt
All of which say that Winston_1 is paranoid about them, none of the facts agree with what he claims (and neither do the links he posts).

If you want to use Homeplugs they are perfectly legal, and extremely unlikely to cause any interference. Millions are in use, and only tiny numbers of claims of interference.
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Old 07-07-2013, 22:09
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All of which say that Winston_1 is paranoid about them, none of the facts agree with what he claims (and neither do the links he posts).

If you want to use Homeplugs they are perfectly legal, and extremely unlikely to cause any interference. Millions are in use, and only tiny numbers of claims of interference.
Had my HP's over a week now and have told my nearest neighbours about them. I am pretty certain that none of them are radio hams
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Old 07-07-2013, 22:49
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Had my HP's over a week now and have told my nearest neighbours about them. I am pretty certain that none of them are radio hams
Nothing to do with radio hams. Homeplug manufacturers notch out their frequencies because they actually know their devices pollute the spectrum, though they deny it, so they notch out the frequencies used by those that understand the issues.

I am not paranoid about them I just state the facts. Nigel, although being in the trade and knowledgable enough to understand the issues, continues to deny they exist.

Yes, they are legal, what is not legal is causing interference, and each and every one of them does that when used as intended. There are only a tiny number of claims of interference because the vast majority of people don't recognise it for what it is.

My advise to you, as you have only had them for a week is to return them as not fit for purpose. It is not fair to pollute the spectrum for others especially as there are better methods of achieving your aim.

Here is another link to a BBC white paper on the issues.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/w...les/WHP195.pdf
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Old 08-07-2013, 00:01
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Here is another link to a BBC white paper on the issues.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/w...les/WHP195.pdf
You do realise That Freesat.co.uk is owned by BBC & ITV and that they endorse the use of Home plugs on the Freesat website ? I suppose you don't use mobiles or wifi as well ?
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Old 08-07-2013, 00:18
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You do realise That Freesat.co.uk is owned by BBC & ITV and that they endorse the use of Home plugs on the Freesat website ? I suppose you don't use mobiles or wifi as well ?
Indeed I am well aware of that. Typical BBC not knowing what the other hand is doing.

I use both a mobile and wi fi. What have they got to do with it? They don't cause interference. They both operate on authorised dedicated frequencies. Anyone who claims to get interference from them has faulty equipment that is responding to the wrong frequencies. Homeplugs operate on a wide band of frequencies all of which are allocated to other users, people like the police, fire service, broadcasting, aircraft communications, etc. There are no frequencies allocated to Homeplugs, they steal other peoples frequencies.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:44
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I rather think he has been looking at external media players such as WD TV Live.
OK, a re-read of his first post makes that clearer.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:18
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Had my HP's over a week now and have told my nearest neighbours about them. I am pretty certain that none of them are radio hams
Like the many millions of happy users, they don't cause interference except in very rare circustances - despite Winston_1's ridiculous claims

Even the links he posts don't support his claims.
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Old 08-07-2013, 15:15
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Like the many millions of happy users, they don't cause interference except in very rare circustances - despite Winston_1's ridiculous claims

Even the links he posts don't support his claims.
Did you actually bother to read the BBC White Paper? Apparently not
, the number of homes whose reception of FM and DAB broadcasts would be affected if such PLAs were widely used would clearly be appreciable
Is that clear enough to indicate that there is a problem in significantly more than your "very rare circumstances".
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Old 08-07-2013, 16:20
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Did you actually bother to read the BBC White Paper? Apparently not Is that clear enough to indicate that there is a problem in significantly more than your "very rare circumstances".
Yes I read it - and it didn't support his claims that ALL Homeplugs cause interference. It didn't give any suggested figures, but certainly didn't suggest mass numbers of potential problems - 'appreciable' is a fairly meaningless term.
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Old 08-07-2013, 21:45
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My Devolo ones work fine and I don't seem to get any interference on FM. The DAB signal here is rubbish anyway.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:40
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My Devolo ones work fine and I don't seem to get any interference on FM. The DAB signal here is rubbish anyway.
Same here except I use DAB, FM & internet radio with no problems.
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Old 09-07-2013, 21:17
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I use them all the time, while I listen to FM radio, various frequencies through the day, and we have no DAB in our county. There is never any FM interference, perfect clean sound all day. I am a very demanding listener too.
Where, exactly, is the problem?
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Old 28-07-2013, 13:13
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Well you need to get rid of those for a start and put in a proper CAT 5 cable.

Homeplugs are bad technology which cause interference to your neighbours as they use the mains wiring in a way it is not intended to be used.

Lots of preivous threads about this, here are 3.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...&highlight=plt
Here we go again, totally unfounded comments. I went out only last week and purchased another pair of Homeplugs after reading your last post on this subject.
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Old 28-07-2013, 13:48
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Here we go again, totally unfounded comments. I went out only last week and purchased another pair of Homeplugs after reading your last post on this subject.
Well the BBC also think that there is potentially a problem and were supposed to be running further tests after their initial white paper which did find interference.
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Old 28-07-2013, 14:59
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Well the BBC also think that there is potentially a problem and were supposed to be running further tests after their initial white paper which did find interference.
Perhaps you should try reading the white paper?, and the OFCOM reports?, which both suggest only small numbers of incidents of interference, and pretty well entirely to radio hams.

Rather different to the vastly over exaggerated claims made here.
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Old 28-07-2013, 17:01
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Calling CQ,CQ,CQDX the frequency and standing by.
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