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Old 16-07-2013, 16:26
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In they come................no gaps !

Quite an exciting finish today !
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Old 16-07-2013, 16:41
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Va va FRRROOOME........

what a racer.

cheez ...that was edge of seat. Contador attacking , froome drags him back, Porte dropped.....digs deep to get back and marshall the descent.

Contador and Froome wheel to wheel at 50mph downhill...contador stuffs it and Froome clashed...

Froome brought back to pack by the Hero Porte..Contador ( yes the Druggie ) hitches a ride much to disgust of ( ME ) and Froome to finish.

Froome is true Tour spirit , heaps of Courage, and actually riding his sox off to win.

No Wiggins armchair ride all the way for him, and not once got huffy about his team or thier riding. ( that we see).

This ride to me is overshadowing Wiggo.
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Old 16-07-2013, 17:36
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,,,..contador stuffs it and Froome clashed...,,,
Have either of them commented on what happened when they both came off?

PS Must have been very close to the famous Beloki /Armstrong crash site.
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Old 16-07-2013, 17:47
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Have either of them commented on what happened when they both came off?

PS Must have been very close to the famous Beloki /Armstrong crash site.
Froome's blaming Contador (and Kreutziger) for riding too dangerously on the descent. Seems Contador went down in front of Froome, who had to try to avoid him and then ended up half on the side of the road himself - he said he had to unclip to avoid falling over.

But Froome didn't have to be riding right beside Contador, of course, so I don't think it's anything that can really be pinned on Contador alone (and I say that even though I really don't like Contador!). He could have left a little more space and still been in a position to chase him down if Contador had got away.

I'd like to know what the thumbs up Contador gave to Quintana was all about
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Old 16-07-2013, 17:52
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''I think he was actually taking a few too many risks there..

“He was pushing the limits too far and he took himself down in front of me which also put me as risk. I had to go off the road for a second to try and get around him. I didn't really come off, I just had to reclip into my bike and get going again. I don't think it was necessary to take those kinds of risks.

“Alberto Contador crashed in front of me. He was pushing, I think, a little bit too fast on the descent. Trying to get away from us and he crashed in front of me. That put me in danger. I went around, off the road, and then I had to correct myself and get back in. I was lucky enough to have my team-mate Richie Porte there to keep me in the front of the race and to keep an eye on things.

“It did give me a lot of confidence having my team-mate there and I knew the race wasn't going to ride away from me there and then... we were in quite a small group already.

“We've got a really big day tomorrow with the time trial and following that we've got another three really hard days so there's going to be some exciting racing coming up.”

http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us...in-danger.html
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Old 16-07-2013, 17:57
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I'd like to know what the thumbs up Contador gave to Quintana was all about
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:03
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So that is what happened to Rui Costa.. (ex footballer for Portugal)



Froome should be able to extend his lead in the time trial shouldn't he?
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:08
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Have either of them commented on what happened when they both came off?

PS Must have been very close to the famous Beloki /Armstrong crash site.
It was within 2 corners of that clash, as the commentators point out the tree by the side of the road where Armstrong rejoined after his little bit of cyclocross.
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:09
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Huum - which would probably carry more weight if he hadn't attacked Andy Schleck when his chain came off to take the yellow jersey from him a couple of years ago. Short memory there, Alberto?
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:09
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''I think he was actually taking a few too many risks there..

“He was pushing the limits too far and he took himself down in front of me which also put me as risk. I had to go off the road for a second to try and get around him. I didn't really come off, I just had to reclip into my bike and get going again. I don't think it was necessary to take those kinds of risks.

“Alberto Contador crashed in front of me. He was pushing, I think, a little bit too fast on the descent. Trying to get away from us and he crashed in front of me. That put me in danger. I went around, off the road, and then I had to correct myself and get back in. I was lucky enough to have my team-mate Richie Porte there to keep me in the front of the race and to keep an eye on things.

“It did give me a lot of confidence having my team-mate there and I knew the race wasn't going to ride away from me there and then... we were in quite a small group already.

“We've got a really big day tomorrow with the time trial and following that we've got another three really hard days so there's going to be some exciting racing coming up.”

http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us...in-danger.html
I can't see Froomes problem racing especially descending is about risk taking and complaining about someone crashing in front of him well thats part of the sport crashes happen and sometimes its not your fault
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:46
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Froome should be able to extend his lead in the time trial shouldn't he?
That seems likely. It's got two Cat2 climbs and lots of bends.
http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/stage-17.html
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:56
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I can't see Froomes problem racing especially descending is about risk taking and complaining about someone crashing in front of him well thats part of the sport crashes happen and sometimes its not your fault

Agreed. I think Froome was right to stick close behind AC but not that much

Could have been a heat of the moment thing with his (riding and) comments, the descent definitely raised a few levels of intensity between the GC guys.

It made for an exciting end. The Tour definitely needs more important descending sections?
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:56
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That seems likely. It's got two Cat2 climbs and lots of bends.
http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/stage-17.html
Sounds like most teams are going to opt for skin suits and aero helmets, but not TT bikes (which are heavier). They'll probably use their regular road bikes with aero bars.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:00
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That seems likely. It's got two Cat2 climbs and lots of bends.
http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/stage-17.html
And an increasing risk of rain as the day progresses.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:03
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Huum - which would probably carry more weight if he hadn't attacked Andy Schleck when his chain came off to take the yellow jersey from him a couple of years ago. Short memory there, Alberto?
Absolutely; something he has taken might have affected it of course.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:04
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Sounds like most teams are going to opt for skin suits and aero helmets, but not TT bikes (which are heavier). They'll probably use their regular road bikes with aero bars.
Do you think I'd be right in guessing that they won't use carbon disc wheels, because of all the turns?
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:10
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Every HL show is turning into an mini-episode at the Clinic

The whole Tour is/has become overshadowed. It's understandable but no less a shame.

What can you do though but keep riding and winning, the answers will come in time. For now, even though it's hard to enjoy people will have to keep trying.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:13
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Do you think I'd be right in guessing that they won't use carbon disc wheels, because of all the turns?
Yeah, I'm reading that they probably won't use them: the ascents are slow, so no major aero advantage, and the descent sounds like it might be quite twisty.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:17
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Not sure what Froome or Contador are whinging at really.
Contador took risks and fell off, you cannot to expect anyone apart from your own team-mates to wait in that situation, especially not one who is close to your podium position. A mechanical would of been different, but this was his own fault.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:29
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Not sure what Froome or Contador are whinging at really.
Contador took risks and fell off, you cannot to expect anyone apart from your own team-mates to wait in that situation, especially not one who is close to your podium position. A mechanical would of been different, but this was his own fault.
My impression watching it live was that the other 5 riders carried on down the descent then slowed down at the bottom to wait for Froome and Contador

I suppose it's actually quite difficult to slow down on a big descent and also difficult to organise as the five riders are necessarily in quite a long line with fair gaps between them for safety and they're travelling at 70K an hour...........just practically how do they have a chat and decide to slow down ?
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:32
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Every HL show is turning into an mini-episode at the Clinic

The whole Tour is/has become overshadowed. It's understandable but no less a shame.

What can you do though but keep riding and winning, the answers will come in time. For now, even though it's hard to enjoy people will have to keep trying.
Interesting to see David Walsh, though.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:35
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Yes, i mean it's all very insightful AND necessary. Also interesting that he said as there wasn't really any actual evidence against CF/Sky he would lean towards giving them the benefit of the doubt. Will be looking forward to see what else his time with them brings to light.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:47
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Has Contador ever won any awards for sportsmanship ?
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Old 16-07-2013, 22:26
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Agreed. I think Froome was right to stick close behind AC but not that much

Could have been a heat of the moment thing with his (riding and) comments, the descent definitely raised a few levels of intensity between the GC guys.

It made for an exciting end. The Tour definitely needs more important descending sections?
Ocana lost the 71 Tour when he crashed on a descent and at the time he had 7 minutes on Merckx so they can play a big part in the outcome
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Old 16-07-2013, 22:38
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Agreed. I think Froome was right to stick close behind AC but not that much

Could have been a heat of the moment thing with his (riding and) comments, the descent definitely raised a few levels of intensity between the GC guys.

It made for an exciting end. The Tour definitely needs more important descending sections?
I've seen some talk about the descent off Alpe d'Huez being pretty treacherous. Apparently it's very narrow and very badly surfaced... although that would surprise me as ASO would surely resurface it for the Tour.

It'll be interesting to see, though. To think... all the times the Tour has raced up the Alpe, they've never actually raced down it!
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