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It really is hard to explain just how much it has changed and got bigger over the last 30 odd years. Even just going back to the Indurain days, you could stumble across him in the street. The English speaking riders used to hear an English voice and come over for a chat. Many's the time I've given cricket scores to Aussie riders
. It's the lack of any barrier between them and us that makes cycling unique - but vunerable.You can't barrier an entire stage - and to be honest there is no particular need to, but the summits definitely need looking at. What does however have to change, is the closeness on hills, and summits, where they are clogging the roads, and affecting the actual outcome of races. That is just unacceptable. The race should always be about racer v racer, not racer v racer v spectator. It is great by the way to hear f r on someone who has been there send enjoyed such great times but the sound of it. |
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Mavic are the neutral service vehicles sponsors - so will use Mavic pedals (or maybe Time). Team Sky ride Shimano - which will vary just slightly but enough from the Mavic/Time ones. Usually not a problem because a team mate will hand over their bike to the team leader - it was the whole situation for Chris - he didn't have a team mate with him and the Team car was way behind. On the flat he could have got by without clipping in - on the vertical, not so much.
Sky are probably the sort of team that might look to developing a compatible system, as a marginal gain. (Or persuade mavic to put a Froome-sized and equipped bike on every car )Before posting, I've just done a bit of googling. It turns out they carry a few different bikes, some with toe clips. Also they carry wheels with campag and shimano cassettes. My googling also showed me just how many different pedal systems there are - I'd never looked at them in detail as I still use simple metal quill pedals with toe clips. But I assumed everyone has to use system pedals. But of course they can always revert to toe clips. They wouldn't have the slotted cleat, but would at least have the benefit of being able to pull the pedals as well as to push them. Was anyone able to see whether Froome's neutral bike had toe clips? Edit. Now found this... http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/...service_414703 |
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The Tour continues after the Nice attacks with todays ITT already underway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/36801928 |
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The official Le Tour site really is garbage. Can anyone recommend a better, more clearly laid out site with more info?
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Such a shame that we are relying on hope, rather than expectations, but hopefully the fans behavior today is better than it was yesterday.
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The official Le Tour site really is garbage. Can anyone recommend a better, more clearly laid out site with more info?
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Such a shame that we are relying on hope, rather than expectations, but hopefully the fans behavior today is better than it was yesterday.
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The official Le Tour site really is garbage. Can anyone recommend a better, more clearly laid out site with more info?
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out of interest, what do you need that isn't on there?
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Today's start times for all riders.
http://racecenter.letour.fr/#/timetrial Looks like Rohan Dennis is set for a good long afternoon in the Big Comfy Chair, he is first by 43 secs over Steve Cummings. Ah, no, hang on a sec, this page only shows riders who HAVE started, doesn't have the times of riders waiting to start.... Thibaut Pinot abandonne. |
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Thanks for looking anyway grassmarket. Seems such an obvious requirement it should be prominent on the official site. For instance, for the same sort of thing for start times of golfers at the British Open today, it's just one click on a prominent link on their home page.
Most importantly for me, what time is Froome due off? |
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Quite liked this photo of Froome
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cps...miamabulls.jpg |
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Start times sorted. It's not exactly intuitive but on the left of the page if you click on 'Start times', then click on 'See more' you can scroll down for all start times:
http://racecenter.letour.fr/#/timetrial Very poorly designed page. It's not clear that 'Start times' is even a link. Froome shows at 16:39 so I guess that's 15:39 BST. This is basic information that should be easily and clearly available on the home page of the official site. If the official British Open golf site can do it so can Le Tour. |
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I would hazard a guess Froome will start around 3.30pm give or take, he is the last rider to go
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Eurosport at it again........two or three minutes of live coverage then ads and a repeat of all the build up stuff and review of yesterday that was on 15 minutes ago
why do they do this ?.......
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Be interesting to see how Adam Yates gets on.......I've no idea what his time trialling is like but he'll have to be pretty good at it if he's going to be a GC contender in the grand tours
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Surprised to see Rohan Dennis getting beaten so early, he's usually a master at these. Very likely cream-crackered by now, or course.
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It's worth noting his victory in last year's opening TdF ITT was the first 'test' win of his pro career (he was the Sagan of time trials in the preceding 2.5 years). Still beat Tony Martin today, in any case (my pick is Tom Dumoulin*).
[* And he smashes the lead at the third checkpoint - right on cue!] ----- Incidentally, Vasil Kiryienka is below the top 70 today. Besides last year's Chrono des Nations, he hasn't won anything in the stripes. |
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It's worth noting his victory in last year's opening TdF ITT was the first 'test' win of his pro career (he was the Sagan of time trials in the preceding 2.5 years). Still beat Tony Martin today, in any case (my pick is Tom Dumoulin*).
[* And he smashes the lead at the third checkpoint - right on cue!] ----- Incidentally, Vasil Kiryienka is below the top 70 today. Besides last year's Chrono des Nations, he hasn't won anything in the stripes. |
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So Stannard is ok to continue today after that bad crash yesterday?
It was overshadowed by the farce at the end, but appears he's in the time trial and has started if I'm interpreting the info on letour website correctly. |
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In fact, he's already finished the time trial so he's aiming to ride to the end of the Tour.
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So Stannard is ok to continue today after that bad crash yesterday?
It was overshadowed by the farce at the end, but appears he's in the time trial and has started if I'm interpreting the info on letour website correctly. I remember Thomas completed a Tour with a fractured pelvis, they arent like footballers, with the exception of Vardy who played with 2 broken bones most of last season |
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Quintana is already losing time and is looking like this generation's Damiano Cunego. He doesn't look like winning the Tour again.
In a perverse way I would like Froome to lose time today just to keep the Tour open for the third week but I can see him remaing comfortably in yellow all the way until Paris. There is no-one close to his quality in the race this year. |
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Never in doubt, he is a big rugged man, few grazes and bruises wont stop him
I remember Thomas completed a Tour with a fractured pelvis, they arent like footballers, with the exception of Vardy who played with 2 broken bones most of last season I thought Vardy was wearing that blue wrist bandage to hide a dodgy tattoo or something. ![]() Lineker famously did the same in the '86 World Cup. Wore a cast, not hid a dodgy tattoo. |
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In a perverse way I would like Froome to lose time today just to keep the Tour open for the third week but I can see him remaing comfortably in yellow all the way until Paris. There is no-one close to his quality in the race this year.
I was thinking yesterday when Froome was initially down a couple of minutes at the end that he'd have a good chance today to make it back up. So it would have kept it closer if they'd not adjusted the times. Would also have prevented all the boos when Froome was re-collecting yellow on the podium. What was that all about? |
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