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The Pro Cycling Thread (Part 2)
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deivu74
01-06-2014
Final day today and still ES are showing tennis. Where's their sense of occasion?

There is a stream on the ES player but no commentary.
swingaleg
01-06-2014
Originally Posted by deivu74:
“Final day today and still ES are showing tennis. Where's their sense of occasion?

There is a stream on the ES player but no commentary.”

just said they're going to the Giro at the end of this set

so.......we'll be losing about 45 minutes (again !)
swingaleg
01-06-2014
It's on now........nearly an hour late and yet they still start by showing yesterday's highlights.........

Wonder why they're finishing in Trieste ?........they usually finish in Milan
cmq2
01-06-2014
After a great first week at the Giro, OGE are finishing with just their oldest and youngest rider that started in Belfast; 5 hours down on Quintana's time.

Eight 7.2km laps in Trieste. How many will they race?

The Pantani movie is now out on DVD: https://vimeo.com/86605737
grassmarket
02-06-2014
Geraint Thomas won the Tour of Bavaria on Sunday - this is the second time he's won that event.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27657744

So a blank week for cycling - nothing but tennis on Eurosport all week, and only the Tour Series highlights on ITV4. Next race is the Dauphine Libere (they don't call it that now, but that was the original title, named after a newspaper set up under the Nazi occupation). It's a race that always attracts lots of the TdF contenders.
cmq2
02-06-2014
Froome has Porte, Kiryienka and Thomas with him at the Dauphiné according to the official race website.

Nibali, Van Garderen, Kwiatkowski, Gerrans, Contador and Adam Yates are also there. The other big names, like Sagan and Cavendish are probably going to the Tour de Suisse.
deivu74
02-06-2014
I've never seen this race before so I am quite looking forward to it. I guess it's Chris Froome's to lose?
swingaleg
02-06-2014
Good news is that the Dauphine is live on Eurosport every day.......according to the website

I think they've messed about with this race in the last couple of years

I just found last years thread and ES didn't show every day live.......they showed 2 or 3 days live and the rest highlights only.........but it appears that it clashed with the French tennis last year which it doesn't appear to this year

Also we never got the Tour de Suisse last year because Sky have the rights to that and they chose not to show it........the year before they had shown it live every day
deivu74
02-06-2014
Oh, so the Tour de Suisse is not on Eurosport? That sucks.
Party Animal
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by deivu74:
“I've never seen this race before so I am quite looking forward to it. I guess it's Chris Froome's to lose?”

Contador is in blistering form... I see some big showdowns in this race

Contador loves them steeper the better 8% is childs play - he likes the stuff others have nightmares about

I think this tour will suit Froome but the TDF and the tour of Spain could see Contador back at the top of the tree
swingaleg
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by deivu74:
“Oh, so the Tour de Suisse is not on Eurosport? That sucks.”

The Sky Sports website says 'highlights on Sky Sports'........so that suggests they might not be showing it live this year

It appears that this is the last year of the current contract for the Swiss races......so maybe ES will get them back next year........
MR. Macavity
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by Party Animal:
“Contador is in blistering form... I see some big showdowns in this race

Contador loves them steeper the better 8% is childs play - he likes the stuff others have nightmares about

I think this tour will suit Froome but the TDF and the tour of Spain could see Contador back at the top of the tree”

Wiggins not riding the CdD but doing the tour de Suisse instead. A case of Brailsford delaying an awkward decision, is Froome definitely picking the team now? Difficult to see Froome and Wiggins in the same team again after comments he made at the weekend?
deivu74
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by MR. Macavity:
“Difficult to see Froome and Wiggins in the same team again after comments he made at the weekend?”

Why, what's been said?
MR. Macavity
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by deivu74:
“Why, what's been said?”

Oh just the usual stuff, no earth-shattering revelations, but you can tell through some of the thinly veiled insults and talking up Richie Porte that Froome won't want Wiggins anywhere near the Tour team!

I don't really know enough about Cycling to say whether Wiggins really should definitely be in the team on merit or not, but thinking back to last year Sky did get exposed 2 or 3 times in the mountains why wouldn't you want a someone of Wiggins experience in your team when he is in good form? Its a long 3 weeks.
Department_S
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by MR. Macavity:
“Oh just the usual stuff, no earth-shattering revelations, but you can tell through some of the thinly veiled insults and talking up Richie Porte that Froome won't want Wiggins anywhere near the Tour team!

I don't really know enough about Cycling to say whether Wiggins really should definitely be in the team on merit or not, but thinking back to last year Sky did get exposed 2 or 3 times in the mountains why wouldn't you want a someone of Wiggins experience in your team when he is in good form? Its a long 3 weeks.”

Froome doesn't pick the team but as No 1 he sure wants his own support riders. It sounds like Wiggins will be with OGE next season according to reports
cmq2
04-06-2014
This podcast reports they fell out at the Vuelta in 2011. Froome's book is officially released tomorrow so there will be more to come. http://audioboo.fm/boos/2221073-sky-...go-to-the-tour

It may be better that Wiggins does not ride. The media will turn the Tour into a grand soap opera. So much easier to fill the column inches with idle speculation about two characters than accurately collect and dissect the nuances of a live multi-national sports event with unfamiliar names.

We have all seen the media ignore the race in previous years except when one minor rider gets a doping suspension it and then it becomes the top sports headline.
Department_S
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by cmq2:
“This podcast reports they fell out at the Vuelta in 2011. Froome's book is officially released tomorrow so there will be more to come. http://audioboo.fm/boos/2221073-sky-...go-to-the-tour

It may be better that Wiggins does not ride. The media will turn the Tour into a grand soap opera. So much easier to fill the column inches with idle speculation about two characters than accurately collect and dissect the nuances of a live multi-national sports event with unfamiliar names.

We have all seen the media ignore the race in previous years except when one minor rider gets a doping suspension it and then it becomes the top sports headline.”

I am kind of the opposite opinion. It would be great to see both in the Tour exactly because of the excitement it would generate. We are as you say trying to build on the momentum of cycling in this country to attract a wider audience. And soap opera or not publicity is good. Kicking off in Yorkshire with almost 2m lining the first two stages. Both of them there would be the icing on the cake.
gemma-the-husky
05-06-2014
What would wiggins do for froome. Would he really kill himself like richie porte did, to give him a lead?

Go back two years. If froome had ridden away on that hill, he would have won the stage and gained a bit of time. It wouldnt have affected the race result. And there wouldnt have been so much acrimony. Team error, Dave Brailsford must take a lot of the blame for that one.

(edit. Just noted the above comment about the 2011 vuelta. Yes that must have hurt being prevented from winning a grand tour)
gemma-the-husky
05-06-2014
Just a point about last years tour. When froome cracked on the alpe dhuz, took a chocolate bar from porte, and then was fined a bit of time, i thought it also affected his tour after that, as he was never quite as strong.

think if he the nutrition is right, that wont happen - and maybe thats why quintana didnt want to take him on this year.

So overall, i think froome will win with or without wiggins adding to the eam support.
divingbboy
06-06-2014
Wiggins just confirmed on BBC Breakfast that he will not be riding the Tour this year, "as things stand". He was choosing his words carefully and diplomatically, but he sounded gutted. I didn't put too much stock in the 'Wiggins to OGE' rumours doing the rounds but, frankly, I can't see him remaining with Team Sky next year. Team Sky doesn't seem to be able to handle having two big stars in its ranks, even when one of them is willing to play a support role for the other in the Tour. Dreadful.
gemma-the-husky
06-06-2014
With respect to Wiggins Froome, did Hinault -Lemond cause the same problems years sgo, when Lemond was ready to take Hinault, but wasn't allowed?
divingbboy
06-06-2014
"@Sam_Robson · 32m
I bet Contador never imagined he'd get more cheers than Froome riding through England. What a mess at Sky #teamwiggo"


LOL!
VincentH
06-06-2014
Be funny if Froome falls off in the first few days of the tour. Wiggins will be off at the end of the season. You can't blame Sky, as they're just going with the most logical bet. Just unfortunate in a way that it starts in the UK this year, and they have this situation to deal with.
deivu74
06-06-2014
If I was going, I'd be cheering for anyone other than Froome, that's for sure.
petertard
06-06-2014
Wiggins is a smoker. He has a lung capacity of 8 litres, compared to the average of 6 litres, so might think he can afford to lose some lung tissue and still be the man.
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