They did report that and it was a non-story as proven by him still being there

Not really. I didn't get excited about all the speculation in the summer, and I was certainly fed up with it all by the end of August.
Besides, I can't see why anyone who calls themselves a Chelsea supporter would want to start a thread to feed the trolls on here.

Player says something, It reported in a different way (Jose also said as much as well), but says it in a sillly way, Manager slaps the player on wirst for saying it in a silly way by highlighting something everyone saw.

Move along nothing more to see (but some people will bang on and on and on and on and on untill enough people will agree with him)

I agree. A fuss over nothing.

Just spotted this. I think I'm happy, but a bit of a gamble as he is a nutter. He could be the bit of aggro we need or he could spend half a season banned. If it's true about Torres going the other way, I can see Lukaku getting a chance next year. Good news if true.

I have always had a soft spot for "nutty" players, They wind up other teams players,Other teams fans (they really going to hate him from what I seen, and they wind up the media), Its always fun to sit back and wait for people brains to explode (and places like this) when he does something annoying.

This kind of comment is why i didn't post it in here.
I'm not a genuine Chelsea fan because i don't like Jose and what he's doing while other forum members who also can't stand him are called trolls.
From fans, to players, to managers and the media, there's huge numbers of people who genuinely love football who are anti Jose and his appalling ideas on how football should be played.
It's you Jose lovers who are out of step with the general opinion on Jose and his stone age football.

His goal record this season is amazing and he was winding up our players over the two legs even before he won the penalty. That stuff with placing the ball was pure head games as well. He'll be exciting, if he can stay on the pitch.

Its got nothing to do with what you are saying IMO but how and where. You know if you post that sort of thing on its own you are going to get the same old comments from the same old posters and lets be honest most of them (not all) are troll's or people who like to beat a stick over Chelsea's head, So why go looking for it? I would not make a seprate one with my views just to look for people to agree with me, Which if I being honest I think is the reason you have done it, You are just looking for like minded folk to back up your views.

For as many people who dont like him there are people who do.

General opinion? Not from the people I talk to.

You accuse people who "love Jose" of saying your not a Chelsea fan (or a football fan) while at the same time you accuse those who are surportive of Jose of "not being Chelsea (or football fans).

Thanks for the info. Yes, it does appear to be a done deal, a number of sources are reporting the same.
I'm still not completely sure about the signing. Can't fault his scoring rate this season, but he hadn't done a lot before that. He's not someone you'd want to meet down a dark alley at night, but perhaps that's no bad thing. At least we've moved early to make the signing, which is a welcome relief after the never ending Rooney fiasco last summer.

Agree with you has been a much better season with us getting to the semi-final of the CL and only being single figures from the top of the league. Already looking forward to next season.

Disappointed about Wednesday night but think we got further than I expected at the start of the campaign.

As I've said before, you've let your hatred for Mourinho completely twist everything out of all proportion.
In the thread you started, you said...

"i would not blame him (Hazard) one bit now for wanting to get the hell out of Chelsea, because how could any footballer with real talent enjoy playing this anti-football shit?

Do you honestly believe that ? What do expect other Chelsea fans to say when they read something like that ?

Lampard no real talent
Drogba no real Talent
Cech no real talent
So on and so on

There is a "journalist" who is currently banned from Stamford Bridge who has openly admitted to "despising" Jose, without questioning the intelligence of someone who uses that word to describe someone he knows from only a professional capacity, you cannot expect to be able to discuss someone like Jose with people who have put him into a pigeon hole, They have a "view" of Jose that no matter how many facts and figures you give them they won't change their mind

Are you talking about Mick Dennis ?

There was a petition on the Chelsea forum, Theshedend to get him banned. I didn't sign it because i thought it was a waste of time, i was glad to be proven wrong

"Even our wingers & No.10s, Oscar, Schurrle & Willian need to score more goals, be more clinical & produce more from the way we played"


Absolutely!

Not sure of his name, anyone who says they despises someone over something as unimportant as football is not worth wasting time trying to remember his name. I just cannot believe someone like that is allowed to report on football, how are they going to remain objective?

Right, I'm going to be a bit controversial now.
While not siding with our colleague Dixon, I do worry about Jose's man-management skills. One of the things I admired most about Mourinho was his gift of being able to manage players and get the most out of them.
We lost Mata, and I don't much care what anyone says he had a fantastic couple of seasons for us. Wouldn't the "old Mourinho" have persevered longer and got him playing in the way he wanted ?
He allowed Lukaku to go out on loan again, fair enough we couldn't guarantee him enough games. But now there are rumours we might cash in and take an offer for him. Why ? Lukaku is still only 20 years old, 21 in a couple of weeks in fact. His potential is amazing for a player of that age, if he was English the media would be raving about him.
This week we have the little disagreement with Hazard. It doesn't mean much, but it's not an indication that Chelsea are the tight knit group they used to be.
Then there's his general demeanour, he was always upbeat and fiercely defensive of his players. In return he received unquestioning loyalty from the majority of the players. We can see, that still exists today from the likes of Terry, Lampard etc.
Mourinho has some difficult decisions to make this summer. I want us to start next season with happy, united squad, ready to move foward together. I just wonder if Jose's time with Real Madrid has changed him. Is he less ready to put his trust in players, working with them on a one-to-one basis and gaining their trust in return ?

Utd came in with a very very good offer for Mata and I think it would have been unfair to him if we kept him just on the off case Jose could get him playing the way he wanted, While clubs like PSG would still have gone after him the chance to join Man Utd might have gone, it might not have been the right thing to do from a Chelsea view but in doing the right thing for the player and I think he deserved that plus with the timing of Willian being available a player who could do the job he wanted Mata to do.

I still not convinced by Lukaku, yes he could be great and if it was a few years ago when FFP was not around I would keep him but if a massive offer comes in I think purely from a business point of view we would have to take it more so when we only play with one striker, his value today is x amount we keep him and he fails it won be y amount, again it's a risk either way and a decision for the club to take. IMO if a really good offer comes in we should take it and use it to fund other buys, decent offer and we should take the risk and see what he can do.

The Hazzard thing is still for me a storm in a tea cup, little boy acts up nothing serious just acting up and daddy smacks him, yes he might not respond well to a smacked arse and start acting up more but that gives us a clue what he will grow up to be like

Yes, all fair points. I'm just surprised we didn't use Mata as "our" David Silva. A similar kind of player who has had a very good season for Man City. Perhaps Jose just thought we had too many players with the same attributes ?
With Lukaku, I do think we should give him a real opportunity. His record is remarkable for his age, he must have been only 19 when on loan to WBA, and only 20 at Everton this season. Looking around, are there any other young strikers who have been scoring goals at the level of the PL at that age ? I don't think there will be any shortage of takers if we decide to sell at around £25m. But we won't make a killing selling him, he stands us in at £17/18m, let's take a good look at him for a season or two.
But my main point was about Jose, I can't help feeling his experience at Real Madrid has soured him a bit. Let's hope I'm wrong and that he can once again get the squad together as a loyal unit. The old "us and them" attitude that served us so well before.

Don't think we can get to hung up on the age of players. Its not if he a top young striker its if he is a top striker. Bringing in young players is nice but if the right player is older then so be it, Much as it was with Utd buying RVP.

There are so many more options' for players now with so many different clubs who can spend big that if they don't get a opportunity instead of trying to force one its more easy to go to another club then force your way into a team, I like they guy a lot but I just not sure if he is ready to play for a team where every chance he misses or every goal he scores could be the difference between winning and losing a title or the Champions League, The pressure in being the striker for Chelsea is massive (as it is for any top top team), We have seen that this season and we don't even have one in that Jose and a lot of fans have said IF we had one we would have won the league, Can we afford another mistake? I always go for a calculated risk one where you look at the whole picture for as long as possible and then look at it some more and then think about it and then look again just to be sure. I would like to see him play in some really big games first before he puts on a Chelsea shirt full-time (that's why I am going to watch the Champions League final see what Costa does).

I think the games against PSG and the last games against Liverpool and City prove how tight as a team we are, I have no doubts about that. Yes Jose is different this time around and I think that's a age thing plus we need to remember it was the old Jose being the old Jose that caused the breakdown between him and Roman and led to him leaving. The job he had to do when he came to us last time was something he could do in his sleep, The job this time is very different and much harder and something he has never had to do before and is not really in his comfort zone so we are going to see mistakes and stuff that don't quite go to plan.

Next season is the season I will judge him on, For me this season was just about getting as far away from last season as possible and we have done that

Yes, I just think that if we didn't have Lukaku, he's a player we would be seriously looking at to bring in. After all, we took a big gamble paying £17m for him as a 18 year old, and it's difficult to fault his progress so far. I do think age makes a difference up to around 22/23 for most players. He has 3 or 4 years before we see the finished product.
As I mentioned previously, we've (allegedly) just agreed to buy Diego Costa, but he didn't have a great record (you could argue that it was inferior to Lukaku's) before this season. So I'm in favour of using them both. If Lukaku is then clearly not good enough, move him on. He'll still be young enought to attract bids.

But it could all be media talk anyway, perhaps we have no intention to sell.

That's proven to be a massive mistake. Oscar wasn't having a good season before Mata was sold, but he hasn't shown up at all since. Mata should have been given the rest of the season with Matic making the midfield more solid behind him. He might have been considered a luxury player considering the way Mourinho wants us to play, but he's a luxury we've needed. Goals and assists are 2 things we've lacked most in recent months.
Nothing wrong with us questioning some of the things Mourinho has said or done since coming back. The way Dixon goes about it is...strange, but I don't entirely disagree with some of the things he says.

Letting Lukaku go would be an insane decision.

Have you forgot it's 2014 and we are living in the Jose world of football?
The world where all an attacking player needs to do is sweat buckets and track back.

I would not mind if we loaned him out as part of the Costa deal as I don't see him getting enough football with us at the moment to keep him happy, it's worked out fantastically for us so far as we could have a Champions League/Title winning goal keeper coming to us so why not try it again?. He would be playing at a high level league wise and playing Champions League football, his ambitions would still be being met while gaining the type of experience we need from players. If he good enough to play for us I am sure AM would be interested