Dont agree with the sale BUT with FFP we need to bring in cash and at the moment we seem to have raised around 100m selling 3 players Jose did not want, So can see the logic behind it.

With clearing Ash's wages off the books as well, We are doing good business from a spreadsheet POV BUT we are not Arsenal (If they was that desprate for a FA Cup Ash would have given them on of the 4 he has won while at Chelsea) so hopefully the sale of Luiz wont come back and bite us.

He is a player I rate highly and I think due to the way we view player in this country (defenders more so) we will only see what he can do when he playing abroad.

Crikey you all must be ecstatic at the ludicrous amount of money you will get from the Luiz sale. Overrated defender and you can do much better with the money.

The number of teams and the size of teams that are rumored to be after him and the price they (rumours again I admit) would suggest he is underated it would seem

It's because he'll be a decent defender in a league without the pace and physicality of the Premier League. In this league, he is a poor defender who takes too many risks. The fact Sky show his goals rather than his tackles sums him up for me.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/310011.html

Lampard going will free up some salary as well.

Where are PSG in the FFP saga? Did they get a spending cap?

Sky show what suits their "you-tube" agenda of football.

Defender/Midfielder/Striker are just holes we stick players into (and shows how far we are behind the rest of football in this country).

As a profesional footballer he is very good, His tackling is decent,His passing is top draw either long or short (a abilty all to rare in the league during the last couple of seasons) his pace is scary and has a great engine on him and a eye for goal and is a very intellengent player. He is a player who turns up in big games and is flexible as to where you can play him. Sky are entertainment brand and to run one of those you need "characters" and his one is a "play station player".

Chelsea have enough defenisve intellengence to overcome the mistakes he makes, If it was in a team with a poor defense (for example Liverpool) I would agree but in a team like Chelsea and the way the manager seems to want the team to play and the type of players we are buying we need someone with his strengths.

He ticks more boxes as a footballer then does not, Apart from that is his marketablity as a player, He is one of those rare players in the Premership that could also generate money and brand awareness off the field.

Luiz is a great footballer. Big and strong in the tackle, not afraid to get stuck in. But he can pass a ball and has an eye for goal too. He was proper chelsea captain material.

I would not want to see him go, but now we have Matic who has settled in well, it would still take a ridiculous amount of money to buy him.

£50m is just about correct.

2 laughable posts ^

Can't be bothered to deal with all of the above, but saying 'we have enough defensive intellengence to overcome the mistakes he makes' is just We were absolute shite for most of his time here and last season we toughened up after finally giving up on him as a CB. He does play very well in the 'big' games, I'll admit that, but against any other team he just shoots constantly and ends up costing us the ball.

No reaction to a player has ever baffled me as much as with Luiz - I'm still convinced people only like him because he has funny hair and says 'geezer' a lot. Gary Neville was spot-on about him.

Seeing you paid that for Torres,I can't really argue.

If he was really a £50m player in the global market rather than in PSG's skewed one, he would have played more for Chelsea and they wouldn't entertain selling him. He may technically competent but he lacks discipline both mentally and positionally.

I agree, £50m is an Incredible amount of money for a defender who can be a bit "suspect".
But Luiz is a top quality footballer. On his day, breaking out of defence like he does, he looks world class. I will be sad to see him go.
What I sincerely hope is that we are not taking the route of selling really top class players to fund the purchase of mediocrity. I'm also a bit suspicious about this FFP excuse, are other European clubs going to be so careful about their spending ? If so, why did we bother with Salah In the January window, he's been ok but wasn't really an essential signing.
Mata, Luiz, who next ? I can see myself joining the Dixon's gang on here if Mourinho sells Hazard.

Sky mentioned Oscar too - any flamboyancy at Stanford Bridge is being culled it seems.

Oscar and hazard are the future of Chelsea.

The World Cup will add 15 million to their value

Luiz is a top quality player as he will no doubt show in the World Cup.
However, every player it seems has his price.
Whilst I didn't want to see Mata or now Luiz go, the fees paid are well in excess what they are worth and represent significants profits.

From official website >> Chelsea Football Club and Paris Saint-Germain have agreed terms for the transfer of David Luiz to the French club.

The move is now subject to David Luiz agreeing personal terms with PSG and passing a medical examination.

Seems the fee is £48m. Next up, Mikel for £30m-ish?


Koke, Pogba, and.......Paulinho....are the rumoured replacements.

I'm with NinjyBear on Luiz. I said a while back that if the right offer came in we should sell, and would've even taken £30m for him, so if we're being paid significantly more than that then it's excellent business.

PSG must be out of their minds.

We can only hope. Torres as well, please.

CB inactive?

*weeps*

What makes it worse for me is this.
If we don't win one of the 'big ones' next season Jose will almost certainly be fired. Then the next guy takes over and probably starts looking to buy some of the type of players Jose is getting rid of.
That is madness with no thought of a longterm plan.
Those at the top should be thinking about how they want the team to play, then go and hire managers who want their teams to play that way and sign the players who can play that way.
It's very simple and so much better longterm than this constant chopping and changing.

But when have we been concerned about making profits ? I agree it's an incredible price for Luiz, but all I'm concerned with (same as most fans, I expect) is starting next season with a better squad. if selling any player results in us being stronger next season, then Mourinho will be doing his job.
Of course FFP has to be taken into account. Which makes me wonder how PSG can justify this purchase. Haven't they just been fined for breaching those rules ? I can't believe they generate enough "genuine" income to be able to throw money around like this. Is it going to be one law for English clubs and another for the rest of Europe ?..it wouldn't be the first time.

Throw money around,,,there owner threatened to buy out Messi's contract if Barca came sniffing around any of his players

So, if you have enough money, you can just pay any fines (or "negotiate" with the aid of a few brown envelopes) and tear up the FFP rules ?

Fines yes...as for your 2nd comment ...not a clue

Even though we have a wealthy owner it's still a business and good decisions have to be made. This ia great business.

You are reacting to rumour again, this time posted by a Liverpool fan.
How do you know there is not a long term plan for Jose to change things ?