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Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 4)
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carefree_blue
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“It looks to me as if Eto'o will be similar to Torres, except he will play with a smile on his face..a welcome change I admit. I know it's early days, and he probably isn't fully match fit, but the old pace doesn't seem to be there and it was surprising how easily he was out-muscled when in possession.”

Maybe i'm being optimistic, but I think Eto'o will be ok. I just think after playing in a lesser league he'll need a few games to get up to scratch with this sort of level again. I hope we give him a run in the team, seeing as we never afforded that to Ba after signing him. Hopefully he will start against Basel and get off the mark for us. Chopping and changing strikers every week is not the way to go, in my opinion.
NinjyBear
18-09-2013
Well, I'd assume Ba will start tonight, considering he was in the pre-match conference. Hope to see Azpil at RB as well.....not played for us yet despite being one of our better players last year.

Good to be back in the Champions League, but I wish I were more optimistic about where our season is heading.
J B Oddsocks
18-09-2013
Yes, although Ivan has been good at RB it would be good to see Azpi again. Wonder if Marco van Ginkel will get a game?
kana
18-09-2013
Eto'o has looked okay for a first match. I still have high hopes for him though a debut goal might have calmed some nerves. Hope he starts tonight.
kana
18-09-2013
And he starts, plus a start for van Ginkel. Team looks good.

Cech, Ivanovic, Cole, Luiz, Lampard (capt), Oscar, Van Ginkel, Hazard, Willian, Cahill, Eto'o.
dend
18-09-2013
Interesting lineup, will be interesting to see how Willian and Van Ginekl do. Etoo starting is also very telling, Why the hell we diddnt get rid of Torres ill never know.
tso
18-09-2013
Originally Posted by dend:
“Why the hell we diddnt get rid of Torres ill never know.”

Can see him going in January
kana
18-09-2013
Originally Posted by dend:
“Why the hell we diddnt get rid of Torres ill never know.”

No one wanted him?
dend
18-09-2013
Originally Posted by kana:
“No one wanted him?”

I dont think thats true. im sure someone in spain would have taken a punt on him, he is still rated fairly ok over there, even Barca were rumoured to be interested a season ago.
carefree_blue
18-09-2013
Originally Posted by dend:
“I dont think thats true. im sure someone in spain would have taken a punt on him, he is still rated fairly ok over there, even Barca were rumoured to be interested a season ago.”

If he won't take a wage cut then it'll price most teams out, especially if we're after a transfer fee too.
NinjyBear
18-09-2013
Good goal to finish a terrible half. Mourinho looking pissed, again.
carefree_blue
18-09-2013
Decent goal by Oscar but what a dull game. Would like to see Mata on in the 2nd half.
dend
18-09-2013
Indeed that half was very frustrating. We are controlling the game but we had pretty much 0 chances and created nothing. Lots of passing outside their box but coming to nothing again and again.

Frustrating when we have such talented attacking players but they just cant break through the defence.

Barca manage it by having special players in Messi Xavi Iniesta, but we dont have them and we are struggling to break defences down right now. Hate to say it, but we lack a player who can create something out of nothing(i.e. Rooney/Ronaldo/Messi/Bale). Hazard is the closest we have but imo hes been very disappointing so far this season. He wastes way too much of the ball, id rather see Mata /KDB over him right now.

Saying all that we are still winning the match with a great goal from Oscar. The 3 points is what matter but i am not too happy with the way we are playing just now.
RichmondBlue
18-09-2013
I thought Ballack hit the nail on the head, Eto'o and the three attacking midfielders are all playing the same type of game. It's not as if they're playing badly, they all look sharp enough, but there's no real goal threat. Great finish by Oscar though.
dend
18-09-2013
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“I thought Ballack hit the nail on the head, Eto'o and the three attacking midfielders are all playing the same type of game. It's not as if they're playing badly, they all look sharp enough, but there's no real goal threat. Great finish by Oscar though.”

Very good point, the balance of our team just hasnt looked right for a long time, ever since RDM/AVB really.

The players are too similar and are getting in each others way up front. I wonder if switching to a different system might help - i.e. 433. I would quite like to see Oscar further back in midfield with Willian/Hazard as proper wingers hugging the touchlines giving us width rather than cutting inside and going through the middle all the time. Jose knows this system very well, so i have no doubt he can get it to work. Ever since we have changed to 4231 it just hasnt worked as well as we would have liked, even if it is the flavour of the month tactical formation these days(Man City/Real/Barca all use it)
HaloJoe
18-09-2013
Hazard plays better when Mata's on the pitch. They complement each other well.

Chelsea lack that 'killer' touch atm. It's frustrating to watch.

We need another.
HaloJoe
18-09-2013
This game should have been put to bed by now.

I don't mean to be the cynic here, but maybe this Mourinho return won't be having a 'fairytale' ending?

It's still early days i guess, but i'm starting to have my doubts.
HaloJoe
18-09-2013
Ffs!!!!!
roddydogs
18-09-2013
What a shambles .
NinjyBear
18-09-2013
The more things change......
J B Oddsocks
18-09-2013
Got what we deserved. Nothing!
dend
18-09-2013
Terrible performance, truely woeful. The Jose feel good factor has disappeared now...
misawa97
18-09-2013
Originally Posted by HaloJoe:
“This game should have been put to bed by now.

I don't mean to be the cynic here, but maybe this Mourinho return won't be having a 'fairytale' ending?

It's still early days i guess, but i'm starting to have my doubts.”

You should have. It's a different club to the one he went to first time around.

I thought it was crazy how people assumed it would all work out fine simply cos its mourinho.
carefree_blue
18-09-2013
I actually wasn't that fussed at them scoring those goals, it's what we deserved. It's only the 1st CL group game, the damage could have been a lot worse. In some ways i'd rather it happened now as hanging onto a 1-0 would have been papering over the cracks of an abysmal performance. Hopefully whatever idiot thought we needed to add Willian to our squad will have a good think about how that £30m could have been better spent.
dend
18-09-2013
I think the players are to blame here, The manager can only do so much but the players just diddnt perform tonight. Yes its the managers responsibility but i dont think Jose did too much wrong today.
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