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we have the lowest average squad in the prem
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Why is Lukaku coming out and saying he doesn't want to go out on loan? Surely all this was settled before. Didn't Jose even confirm that Lukaku was staying at Chelsea this season a while ago?
Just seems a bit odd that he's come out and said he doesn't want to go out on loan, as if he thinks he will possibly do so. |
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Why is Lukaku coming out and saying he doesn't want to go out on loan? Surely all this was settled before. Didn't Jose even confirm that Lukaku was staying at Chelsea this season a while ago?
Just seems a bit odd that he's come out and said he doesn't want to go out on loan, as if he thinks he will possibly do so. 4 strikers with 1 position is too much. AS it looks like we are not getting Cavani, then i will be happy with the three strikers we have. If we sign a striker like Benteke, i believe that would be a massive mistake. Its the very top, or nothing that we need. |
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Why is Lukaku coming out and saying he doesn't want to go out on loan? Surely all this was settled before. Didn't Jose even confirm that Lukaku was staying at Chelsea this season a while ago?
Just seems a bit odd that he's come out and said he doesn't want to go out on loan, as if he thinks he will possibly do so. "Are you glad to be working under Jose" "Do you think Chelsea should challenge for the title this year" etc etc What do they expect a player to say? "Nope Jose is a complete and utter tosser and he has not a clue when it comes to being a manager?" Or "Naaaa i think we will be lucky to stay up this season" They stick to the same old rubbish so that the idiots who read and actually belive what the papers say can understand. Jose could make him Capt and the media would still ask "do you want to stay and try and get into the Chelsea team or go another season on loan", Jesus I think Roman could sack Jose and make him manager and they would still ask the question |
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First friendly tomorrow. Confirmed line-up for the first half....
Petr Cech; Ashley Cole, John Terry, Tomas Kalas, Wallace; Frank Lampard, Michael Essien; Andre Schurrle, Kevin de Bruyne, Lucas Piazon; Romelu Lukaku Second half.... Jamal Blackman; Ryan Bertrand, Nathaniel Chalobah, Gary Cahill, Branislav Ivanovic; Ramires, Marco van Ginkel; Victor Moses, Eden Hazard, Kevin de Bruyne; Demba Ba Should get a decent look at a few unknowns tomorrow then. |
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First friendly tomorrow. Confirmed line-up for the first half....
Petr Cech; Ashley Cole, John Terry, Tomas Kalas, Wallace; Frank Lampard, Michael Essien; Andre Schurrle, Kevin de Bruyne, Lucas Piazon; Romelu Lukaku Second half.... Jamal Blackman; Ryan Bertrand, Nathaniel Chalobah, Gary Cahill, Branislav Ivanovic; Ramires, Marco van Ginkel; Victor Moses, Eden Hazard, Kevin de Bruyne; Demba Ba Should get a decent look at a few unknowns tomorrow then. |
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Those look two decent 11s. Will be good to see how the new guys and ex-loanees fit in. Will also be good to see what sort of state Essien is in.
Schwarzer Apzi Luiz Kalas Wallace Chalobah McEachran Oscar Mata Torres |
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How about a 3rd team?
Schwarzer Apzi Luiz Kalas Wallace Chalobah McEachran Oscar Mata Torres
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It's only got 10 players and Kalas, Wallace and Chalobah are in the other two teams. Other than that, very good.
![]() fair enough, the first two teams were good without luiz, schwarzer,mata and oscar and torres! anyway, how do we feel about rooney? |
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How about a 3rd team?
Schwarzer Apzi Luiz Kalas Wallace Chalobah McEachran Oscar Mata Torres . From those numbers we'll be loaning out a few before the end of the window. I don't think McEachran, Chalobah, Piazon and Wallace will make the final squad.
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anyway, how do we feel about rooney?
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lol
anyway, how do we feel about rooney? Actually, if we got Rooney, it might be Mata who takes the hit as he'd probably play just behind the main striker ![]() I'd rather he stayed where he was and disrupted the Utd squad. |
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Not interested in Rooney. The 3 I wanted are all done now, so I'd rather we stick with what we have up-front and concentrate on DM and CB.
Quote from Jose - "I don't want to win the Europa League. It would be a big disappointment for me. I don't want my players to feel the Europa League is our competition. / The most important thing in football is to be the best team in the season and try to win your domestic league, In our case, it's the most important league in Europe, so we have to try and be the best team and win the Premier League." He's so
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I'd exchange him for Torres in a heartbeat. If Torres stays, I can't see a place for him because of the wages, but also because I can't see them playing together with our midfield.
Actually, if we got Rooney, it might be Mata who takes the hit as he'd probably play just behind the main striker ![]() I'd rather he stayed where he was and disrupted the Utd squad. |
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Not interested in Rooney. The 3 I wanted are all done now, so I'd rather we stick with what we have up-front and concentrate on DM and CB.
Quote from Jose - "I don't want to win the Europa League. It would be a big disappointment for me. I don't want my players to feel the Europa League is our competition. / The most important thing in football is to be the best team in the season and try to win your domestic league, In our case, it's the most important league in Europe, so we have to try and be the best team and win the Premier League." He's so ![]() It really shouldn't need Mourinho to tell you this (not you personally NinjyBear, all Chelsea fans). |
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JM saying that winning the league is the priority really is stating the obvious. As for the Europa League, of course we don't set out to win it at the start of the season, but if we do end up back in it, only a fool would write it off.
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JM saying that winning the league is the priority really is stating the obvious. As for the Europa League, of course we don't set out to win it at the start of the season, but if we do end up back in it, only a fool would write it off.
However, Chelsea fans talking about 'sacrificing the league', to win the Champions League, or 'winning back-to-back European titles', when one of those titles is the Europa League, is not what I think that you should be wanting to hear. The Premier League AND the Champions League should be the aim, for a club like Chelsea. No, you're unlikely to win both, very often, but that should be the target. Fulham and Middlesbrough have both reached the Europa League final, in recent (-ish) years. That's not Chelsea's level. I'm not trying to denigrate either trophy success, I'm just saying that I think that Mourinho will change the overall mindset of the club (in a good way). |
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Everyone connected to Chelsea, especially the players and fans, should have felt this way all along.
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JM saying that winning the league is the priority really is stating the obvious. As for the Europa League, of course we don't set out to win it at the start of the season, but if we do end up back in it, only a fool would write it off.
Read a comment earlier regarding the Europa League - the only thing worse than winning it is not winning it. It's very true for the top clubs. It should never be an option but, when it is, you have to go for it. I was happy for the players when Ivanovic scored the winner, but the celebrations after felt a bit...off. |
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When certain other teams' record includes the "charity/ community shield" in a list of "trophies" won by them, it shows them up when Chelsea win and rightfully celebrate winning the UEFA/EUROPA Cup.
Make no mistake, it is a valuable and important trophy. We remain the only team to ever hold the champions league and the uefa cup at the same time. It was fantastic. And let us put this one to bed again, as it seems forum members still misrepresent what some fans are saying. No one says Chelsea sacrificed winning the Premier League for the Champions League. What happened, is that once it was clear we were not going to win the Premier League, the team prioritized the Champions League and picked the teams accordingly. It proved a great tactic as the record books show. |
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Not interested in Rooney. The 3 I wanted are all done now, so I'd rather we stick with what we have up-front and concentrate on DM and CB.
Quote from Jose - "I don't want to win the Europa League. It would be a big disappointment for me. I don't want my players to feel the Europa League is our competition. / The most important thing in football is to be the best team in the season and try to win your domestic league, In our case, it's the most important league in Europe, so we have to try and be the best team and win the Premier League." He's so ![]() One untested at the level we need playing at from day one, Another one out of form/low on confidance/too much pressure/lost it etc etc and the third is a bench player. Rooney offers us a number of plus points, He a great player,He is English,He can play a number of roles,Proven winner (and is hungry to win more),Would send out a message to the other 2 clubs going for the league and would bring in money from shirt sales etc,Plus he is use to our league, Also I think we could get him at a sensible price (unlike the other strikers on our shopping list). Have not been the biggest drum beater about us splashing out on a striker for buying sake but the Rooney deal could be a very good one for us. I think he would buy into Jose's mindset from day one, He a skillful player although at the same time can smash a few doors down (something we will need come xmas time) when clubs would have seen enough of how we are set up and worked out how to line up against us. |
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The trouble we have with keeping with the 3 we got is the 3 we have.
One untested at the level we need playing at from day one, Another one out of form/low on confidance/too much pressure/lost it etc etc and the third is a bench player. Rooney offers us a number of plus points, He a great player,He is English,He can play a number of roles,Proven winner (and is hungry to win more),Would send out a message to the other 2 clubs going for the league and would bring in money from shirt sales etc,Plus he is use to our league, Also I think we could get him at a sensible price (unlike the other strikers on our shopping list). Have not been the biggest drum beater about us splashing out on a striker for buying sake but the Rooney deal could be a very good one for us. I think he would buy into Jose's mindset from day one, He a skillful player although at the same time can smash a few doors down (something we will need come xmas time) when clubs would have seen enough of how we are set up and worked out how to line up against us. He can play as a lone target man, or as a secondary striker. But would we get the Rooney of a couple of seasons ago, or has he already started to decline ? |
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BBC Breaking News, Chelsea offer for Rooney rejected by Man Utd, Cash plus either Mata or Luiz.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23342660 |
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BBC Breaking News, Chelsea offer for Rooney rejected by Man Utd, Cash plus either Mata or Luiz.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23342660 |
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From the BBC
"Chelsea are understood to have offered £10m in cash plus a player, thought to be either Juan Mata or David Luiz, in part exchange for the 27-year-old. " This is absolute madness. |
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So we have Juan Mata, been brilliant, player of the year past two seasona, adapted to the Premier League brilliantly and a vital player to the team....and we swap him with Rooney....and we may have another Torres situation...where it just doesn't click. Let alone give Juan to a rival???
MADNESS!!! |
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. From those numbers we'll be loaning out a few before the end of the window. I don't think McEachran, Chalobah, Piazon and Wallace will make the final squad.

