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Old 11-07-2013, 08:12
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Was a bit annoyed last night that the episode of the Bill was pushed back to 12.15am to fit in an episode of Birds of a Feather that was shown 3 hours before!
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:05
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Why cant they fit it all in an hour like ITV?
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:38
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Why cant they fit it all in an hour like ITV?
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:20
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Yes - and I think a key issue is that in 1998 there were 3 parts to an hour episode, whereas the convention now is to always have 4. So essentially for each hour episode there must have been more content then than there was in the episodes that aired in the show's last years on ITV.

Anyway good episode today - I think this storylines goes on for 4 or 5 episodes. It's interesting they've got some multi-running storylines with uniform to start the 60 minute eps off whereas towards the end it seemed most of their big long-running storylines tended to be more CID based.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:54
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They easy can, if Challenge can get away with showing 2 ad breaks during Series 1-4 of The Crystal Maze im sure Drama can show two ad breaks during the The Bill.
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Old 11-07-2013, 13:20
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Yes - and I think a key issue is that in 1998 there were 3 parts to an hour episode, whereas the convention now is to always have 4. So essentially for each hour episode there must have been more content then than there was in the episodes that aired in the show's last years on ITV.

Anyway good episode today - I think this storylines goes on for 4 or 5 episodes. It's interesting they've got some multi-running storylines with uniform to start the 60 minute eps off whereas towards the end it seemed most of their big long-running storylines tended to be more CID based.
I get the impression these early hour long eps from 1998 were actually meant to be half-hour episodes. Often, you'll see episodes written by two writers or the officers ending a shift and starting again the next morning halfway through an episode, which suggest to me that these were originally half-hour episodes but combined to form hour long eps.
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Old 11-07-2013, 13:41
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Yeah I agree with that - I wonder if they were meant to be half an hour episodes or if they just intentionally started their initial move to 1 hour by using the half hour format they were familiar with? (i.e. we know how to produce drama for 30 mins so let's just put 2 of those together into an episode and it should work.) It would otherwise go over about ten 30 minutes episodes so I'm not sure.

So far I don't think we've seen Geoff Daly at all, and only minimal amounts of Charles Brownlow, Gary McCann and Sam Harker. Anyone else anyone can think of who's not been on yet or who we've barely seen?
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Old 11-07-2013, 13:58
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Yeah I agree with that - I wonder if they were meant to be half an hour episodes or if they just intentionally started their initial move to 1 hour by using the half hour format they were familiar with? (i.e. we know how to produce drama for 30 mins so let's just put 2 of those together into an episode and it should work.) It would otherwise go over about ten 30 minutes episodes so I'm not sure.

So far I don't think we've seen Geoff Daly at all, and only minimal amounts of Charles Brownlow, Gary McCann and Sam Harker. Anyone else anyone can think of who's not been on yet or who we've barely seen?
We haven't seen much of Debbie Keane but she's going to be leaving soon...in the episode, 'Taking Sides'. And we haven't seen much of Jamila Blake but she was in today's episode with the mum and girlfriend of the man Tony ran over, in the relatives room.
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Old 11-07-2013, 14:33
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We haven't seen much of Debbie Keane but she's going to be leaving soon...in the episode, 'Taking Sides'. And we haven't seen much of Jamila Blake but she was in today's episode with the mum and girlfriend of the man Tony ran over, in the relatives room.
I haven't really seen it that much to know the names yet.

I think with a bit of work they could of turned The Bill into a soap.
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Old 11-07-2013, 14:37
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I haven't really seen it that much to know the names yet.

I think with a bit of work they could of turned The Bill into a soap.
They sort of sowed the seeds for this in these episodes. But they soon reverted back to self-contained episodes for a while.

Turning The Bill into a soap would have a worked a treat in the mid 90s. Its viewing figures were around 12 million in the mid 90s but they would have skyrocketed had they introduced some subtle soapy elements, very much like Casualty in the mid 90s. When it introduced love lives and affairs, its ratings shot up to 18 million.

The 1998 revamp came about 3 years too late.
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Old 11-07-2013, 14:48
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I haven't really seen it that much to know the names yet.

I think with a bit of work they could of turned The Bill into a soap.
They did turn it into a soap pretty much! Unfortunately in my view that was a pretty dire period in the show's history (namel from 2002 to 2005 when it had a permanent serial format) - I enjoyed the mix of long-running storylines and self-contained episodes that they had at this point.

I forget about Debbie Keane and Jamelia - didn't they just suddenly leave, without their characters even getting a leaving storyline or even a mention that they were off?
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Old 11-07-2013, 14:49
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I'm already watching The Bill on Watch and am pretty close to the end, my sky planner isn't big enough to start recording 2 more episodes a day!

And I'd have no idea which to watch.
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Old 11-07-2013, 16:35
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I'm already watching The Bill on Watch and am pretty close to the end, my sky planner isn't big enough to start recording 2 more episodes a day!

And I'd have no idea which to watch.
I made a mistake it is only 1 episode per day, they repeated yesterdays episode before playing the days episode.
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Old 11-07-2013, 22:25
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One character I'm really enjoying at the moment is Liz Rawton (for those who don't know or who are new to the repeats, she was Rosie's friend). She's a great character, well-written, down to earth and level headed. I didn't pay much attention to Liz in the past but she's excellent and the one who's shone out the most for me.
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Old 11-07-2013, 22:54
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Is anyone clever enough to work out when episodes from 2001-2004 will be shown
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Old 11-07-2013, 23:08
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Is anyone clever enough to work out when episodes from 2001-2004 will be shown
2001 will probably commence next May time.
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Old 11-07-2013, 23:11
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Is anyone clever enough to work out when episodes from 2001-2004 will be shown
We have another 200 episodes after tomorrow's episode so 200/5 episodes a week = 40 weeks. In roughly 40 weeks time so another 10 months, so we should be up to 2001 by next May. But it'll probably be next June as I assume The Bill won't be shown on Bank Holiday, Xmas and New Year and Easter.

2001 will probably commence next May time.
Identical prediction
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Old 12-07-2013, 00:39
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We have another 200 episodes after tomorrow's episode so 200/5 episodes a week = 40 weeks. In roughly 40 weeks time so another 10 months, so we should be up to 2001 by next May. But it'll probably be next June as I assume The Bill won't be shown on Bank Holiday, Xmas and New Year and Easter.



Identical prediction
Indeed, fans of The Bill aint we so sort of makes sense
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:16
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I wish the channels would play them right from the first episode.
For some reason here in oz they keep repaying the same seasons ( 99-02) they get to the fire then go back again. I'd love to collect the whole season but the cost is too much.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:32
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One character I'm really enjoying at the moment is Liz Rawton (for those who don't know or who are new to the repeats, she was Rosie's friend). She's a great character, well-written, down to earth and level headed. I didn't pay much attention to Liz in the past but she's excellent and the one who's shone out the most for me.
I loved DI Rawton
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:26
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Nice line today:

Mr Monroe wants to see you
It's not about a wedding is it?
No a funeral!
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:11
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We have another 200 episodes after tomorrow's episode so 200/5 episodes a week = 40 weeks. In roughly 40 weeks time so another 10 months, so we should be up to 2001 by next May. But it'll probably be next June as I assume The Bill won't be shown on Bank Holiday, Xmas and New Year and Easter.



Identical prediction

Thank you both
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Old 12-07-2013, 17:04
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One character I'm really enjoying at the moment is Liz Rawton (for those who don't know or who are new to the repeats, she was Rosie's friend). She's a great character, well-written, down to earth and level headed. I didn't pay much attention to Liz in the past but she's excellent and the one who's shone out the most for me.
I wasn't sure who you meant, had to look her up linky, wish I hadn't read it now.
Revealed storylines I'd forgotten, there was a lot of The Bill to remember.

The Bill isn't quite as good as I remember it, but it's alright.
NYPD Blue seems a little unsubtle and 'route 1' in season 1, hoping that gets to be as good as I remember it as its goes on too.
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Old 12-07-2013, 18:12
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Was The Bill weekly or twice weekly when these episodes were originally on ITV ?

Reading up on the episodes it also reminded me that Rosie and Santini married in real life. Great way to meet your future partner play parts on TV where he tries to assault you
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Old 12-07-2013, 18:16
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Was The Bill weekly or twice weekly when these episodes were originally on ITV ?
The first three episodes of the hour format were shown on the same week on ITV. The episode "Team Spirit" and several episodes thereafter were shown weekly on Tuesdays. The Bill remained once-weekly for about 6 or 7 episodes before eventually settling into a twice-weekly format.
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