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One character I'm really enjoying at the moment is Liz Rawton (for those who don't know or who are new to the repeats, she was Rosie's friend). She's a great character, well-written, down to earth and level headed. I didn't pay much attention to Liz in the past but she's excellent and the one who's shone out the most for me.
I'm really loving these episodes. I did enjoy The Bill in the 2001-2005 era as well when it became more soapy, but I have a real soft spot for these episodes we are seeing at the moment - there is great human drama, it all feels very real and authentic. Everything is subtle and understated. It's not afraid to just let things be as they are. In 2001-2005, everything became so melodramatic and over the top, and they were trying to outdo the last explosion or outlandish plot that it showed. It was as if the show became too afraid they might lose their audience because things aren't *dramatic* enough. |
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The first three episodes of the hour format were shown on the same week on ITV. The episode "Team Spirit" and several episodes thereafter were shown weekly on Tuesdays. The Bill remained once-weekly for about 6 or 7 episodes before eventually settling into a twice-weekly format.
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I think Liz Rawton is a great character too - you sum her up very well, she is very likeable.
I'm really loving these episodes. I did enjoy The Bill in the 2001-2005 era as well when it became more soapy, but I have a real soft spot for these episodes we are seeing at the moment - there is great human drama, it all feels very real and authentic. Everything is subtle and understated. It's not afraid to just let things be as they are. In 2001-2005, everything became so melodramatic and over the top, and they were trying to outdo the last explosion or outlandish plot that it showed. It was as if the show became too afraid they might lose their audience because things aren't *dramatic* enough. For example, in today's episode, in the second half of the episode with the courtcase and the boy in the care home, those storylines would have been the main plots in the half-hour era with no mention of Tony's ongoing dilemma with the death by dangerous driving case. |
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what the problem with this channel is 1 advert break too many even the episodes on Watch aren't cut like this and why oh why they don't air an uncut episode at midnight baffles me
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Loving these episodes, one thing that stands out is that there's no music, so much better imo.
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what the problem with this channel is 1 advert break too many even the episodes on Watch aren't cut like this and why oh why they don't air an uncut episode at midnight baffles me
Yesterday had the stupidity of showing Camomile Lawn a post watershed C4 drama at various times throughout the day, which meant they had to hack out large chunks of it as the show is well known for its frequent gratuitous sex and nudity. Saw one bit and the episode made no sense whatsoever given its masssive cuts. |
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Episodes being shown this week on Drama:
Deadly Impact Big Day Making Up The Cross Cast No Shadow - return of Burnside |
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Today was the first time I noticed the cuts as they took out one of my favourite bits of the episode (Conway asking if anyone wanted his paper and then saying 'don't blame you' as he threw it away!) The missing scenes are available from around 0.56-3.30 in this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UimmSDSBfgo
I think other episodes from this storyline are also available so if anyone's aware of any other scenes that have been cut it would be great to have them pointed out so people could at least see them! As I've said before Drama really should just have 1 episode a day (rather than repeating one at 8) - that way they could take up a 70 minute slot or whatever instead. Anyway a good episode today. Interesting to have no station bits at all and only 1 scene outside the court (which wasn't even shown!) That must be one of the few episodes ever to not have any scenes from the station at all? Perhaps slight overkill though to have Stamp being investigated by police complaints though - will have to wait and see! |
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I cant wait till the 'cast no shadow' episode! Frank Burnside and his one-liners epic!!
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Nice to see a decent amount of Conway today - great character!
Is The Cross Kerry Holmes first episode? I thought she was a really good character too. Still no seen of Geoff Daly and Sam Harker's barely spoken yet - he popped up a few times today but no lines! |
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Hi Ken, the box sets are in 2 parts so the first boxset is Episode 1-60 and then the 2nd boxset is Ep 61 to the end of the year, so yeah if you want the second one then here it is.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_od...t+3-5&_sacat=0 There you go. |
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Nice to see a decent amount of Conway today - great character!
Is The Cross Kerry Holmes first episode? I thought she was a really good character too. Still no seen of Geoff Daly and Sam Harker's barely spoken yet - he popped up a few times today but no lines! And I must add, Christopher Timothy would have made a superb addition to The Bill's cast. |
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I know this is going to sound weird, but are they completely uncut... i.e - do they include the Previously On and End of Parts??
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Conway was a great character. It's a shame we haven't seen more of Conway's wife because I think she's a good character, sticking up for Derek.
And I must add, Christopher Timothy would have made a superb addition to The Bill's cast. |
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They certainly do yep, I wouldnt of got them myself if they hadnt had them.
I remember Brownlow coming back after Conway died (although actually I think it was the memorial service technically for the 6 that died in the station fire as I think Conway had a separate funeral - and I don't remember Brownlow speaking much!) I remember Conway's wife having a go at Chandler around then. I'm sure she was played by a different actress then - of course Melanie Kilburn who played Sandra in today's episode went on to play Laura Bryant from 2004-2006. |
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Yep - though I think these too contain some scene-cuts to episodes? Indeed I believe one is missing completely from 2000! I guess the question is is it worth paying circa £35 for these DVDs?!
I remember Brownlow coming back after Conway died (although actually I think it was the memorial service technically for the 6 that died in the station fire as I think Conway had a separate funeral - and I don't remember Brownlow speaking much!) I remember Conway's wife having a go at Chandler around then. I'm sure she was played by a different actress then - of course Melanie Kilburn who played Sandra in today's episode went on to play Laura Bryant from 2004-2006. |
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There is 1 missing yep no scene cuts though except one on Lock In and The Untouchables thats it, Ive put both of the missing scenes on YouTube.
If we can upload any missing scenes from Drama this way/find them on Youtube etc. then that will at least be something - it really is very poor! I did email UKTV to suggest they they just went for 1 70 minute episode per day - if you'd like uncut episodes then feel free to do the same! |
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Yes - and I think a key issue is that in 1998 there were 3 parts to an hour episode, whereas the convention now is to always have 4. So essentially for each hour episode there must have been more content then than there was in the episodes that aired in the show's last years on ITV.
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Yep - though I think these too contain some scene-cuts to episodes? Indeed I believe one is missing completely from 2000! I guess the question is is it worth paying circa £35 for these DVDs?!
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£35 i paid a lot more than that for most of them
![]() I was going off what was said earlier on this thread. I've not got them myself but when I looked I thought they were around that price, maybe slightly more - postage seemed to be the main cost!
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Not necessairily. When shown on ITV dramas like Scott And Bailey will have three ad breaks in but they usually run right to the top of the hour and remove the break between the end of the show and the next programme so I don't think the actual content has reduced. US shows, on the other hand, have definitely got shorter to accomodate more ads. If you look at a dvd (or VHS in some cases) of a show like Buffy or The X-Files where there's four episodes per disc/tape, you'll see that for earlier seasons the total running time is several minutes longer than for later seasons.
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Hence the use of the word circa
I was going off what was said earlier on this thread. I've not got them myself but when I looked I thought they were around that price, maybe slightly more - postage seemed to be the main cost! |
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so let me try and make sense of this please.. so far the scenes cut by the drama channel have been scenes where nothing much happens ?
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so let me try and make sense of this please.. so far the scenes cut by the drama channel have been scenes where nothing much happens ?
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Some nice lines in today's episode:
Quinna:I've left my diary behind. Boyden: Forgotten what day it is have you? Deakin: I guess it's all about interview technique - I think I'd better lead then Rod Deakin: I daresay you'll be looking for a different brief! Deakin and Boyden - along with Conway - are the kings of 1-liners - probably my 3 favourite characters. I noticed Rod and Deakin swapped places when Deakin started leading the interview - does the person doing that sit in a specific place? I believe they cut out a scene where Harker realised he'd pulled the solicitor over so a few scenes didn't make sense. Can't find this one online but would be nice to see the missing scenes! I think today's and Bang Bang You're dead are my favourite episodes so far |
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I was going off what was said earlier on this thread. I've not got them myself but when I looked I thought they were around that price, maybe slightly more - postage seemed to be the main cost!