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Old 13-10-2014, 23:10
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Just finished watching today's episode. So many cuts in it, it's untrue. Wouldn't surprise me if when the fire episode occurs, you actually don't see anything because it's cut. They cut out the comment Weller made about if him breaking his "cheating wife's legs", also cut out where baldy spits in Vik's beer, and Vik hitting Simpson.
That's disappointing hopefully the fire isn't cut - it was an extremely good stunt. These episodes building up to it are genuinely exciting. This was the time I first started watching the show originally as well.
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Old 13-10-2014, 23:15
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Kate Spears - "the nick needs torching" lol a sign of things to come
It's a shame that Kate was axed from the show. It's the one axing that I just didn't understand. She was heavily involved with Chandler and had great chemistry with Mickey. I thought the writers developed her character quite well, especially during the serial rapist storyline where she really proved herself as a good character.

She could have been involved in Chandler's downfall, we could have seen her join forces with Mickey and see that relationship develop more.
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Old 14-10-2014, 02:54
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I haven't seen these episodes for twelve years and barely remember the stories, so I could not possibly know if there have been cuts. I assume that those commenting on cuts have the box sets, in which case I don't know why they bother to watch the reruns!
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Old 14-10-2014, 13:02
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It's a shame that Kate was axed from the show. It's the one axing that I just didn't understand. She was heavily involved with Chandler and had great chemistry with Mickey. I thought the writers developed her character quite well, especially during the serial rapist storyline where she really proved herself as a good character.

She could have been involved in Chandler's downfall, we could have seen her join forces with Mickey and see that relationship develop more.
Yea a shame Kate didn't stay, maybe she wanted to leave the show. I know they used the fire as an excuse to kill off a number of characters that were leaving anyway.
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Old 14-10-2014, 13:37
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It's a shame that Kate was axed from the show. It's the one axing that I just didn't understand. She was heavily involved with Chandler and had great chemistry with Mickey. I thought the writers developed her character quite well, especially during the serial rapist storyline where she really proved herself as a good character.
Really I thought she was rather bland
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Old 14-10-2014, 17:07
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LOL at Conways little dog in todays ep , i've always had a feeling his character was a bit henpecked at home, and his comment about a death sentence if he didnt get the dog back, made me believe it all the more


The decorator bloke who used to play Trevor Jordache in Brookside is an odd bloke,, pretending he used to be in The Police, what is that about ?, does he get killed in the fire as his character seems to be hanging around for no real reason
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Old 14-10-2014, 20:07
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I haven't seen these episodes for twelve years and barely remember the stories, so I could not possibly know if there have been cuts. I assume that those commenting on cuts have the box sets, in which case I don't know why they bother to watch the reruns!
I don't have the box sets, I'm going from memory of watching them in the past.
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Old 14-10-2014, 20:10
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The decorator bloke who used to play Trevor Jordache in Brookside is an odd bloke,, pretending he used to be in The Police, what is that about ?, does he get killed in the fire as his character seems to be hanging around for no real reason
Ah, good old Shifty!!

No, he didn't croak it in the fire, but he was one of the prime suspects at the time. He does come across as a bit pyscho. I always remember him talking to Polly with a smile on his face as she was going out on a job, and then as soon as he stopped talking, he gave this really evil glare.
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Old 14-10-2014, 20:38
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Watching the 1996 boxset, just seen Rene Zagger playing James Parker a drug dealer, this is bringing back memories!
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Old 14-10-2014, 22:00
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I was watching an episode from 1996 myself last night Jim and Don went to another officers retirement party Don was acting suspicious even at that time
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Old 15-10-2014, 09:13
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Sorry was 1997, but yeah another episode i watched had Jack Meddows laying into beach for sailing too close to the wind
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Old 16-10-2014, 13:17
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and Conway is toast
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Old 16-10-2014, 15:29
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Well i never knew that, anyone remember Jenny from Hearbeat, the Pharmacist who married Sgt Merton, shes married to Sgt Gilmore.
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Old 16-10-2014, 15:34
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I hated the way Conway was killed just because Chandler was too busy getting his leg over.

But I found Mickey Webb's hero worship of Conway after his death ("let's do it for the guv" etc, etc) quite funny, considering that they hardly shared any scenes.
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Old 16-10-2014, 16:10
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Are Drama still mucking about with the aspect ratio on these episodes
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Old 16-10-2014, 16:37
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I hated the way Conway was killed just because Chandler was too busy getting his leg over.

But I found Mickey Webb's hero worship of Conway after his death ("let's do it for the guv" etc, etc) quite funny, considering that they hardly shared any scenes.
I remember Ben Roberts, who played Conway, saying at the time that he'd wanted to go out with a bang!
I agree though... a sad way for such a likeable, long serving character to go.
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Old 16-10-2014, 18:17
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I've been trying to catch all of these episodes but must have missed one. Can someone explain why Danny is blaming Vik?
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Old 16-10-2014, 18:34
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Poor Conway ,,, what a horrible way to go, he will always be one of my favourite all time characters from The Bill.

I noticed they showed that strange decorator bloke on a motorbike, to try and add him to the list of suspects.
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Old 16-10-2014, 19:11
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I don't think Conway should have gone. He's my favourite Bill character after Deakin and Boyden - I think all have certain things in common (that they were all stupidly axed for one thing!)

The PM era so far has been pretty good on the whole. I don't regard it as a classic period but it's definitely watchable and far better than some of his later stuff.
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Old 16-10-2014, 20:09
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30th Anniversary today of the first episode (not woodentop)
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Old 17-10-2014, 10:10
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I remember Ben Roberts, who played Conway, saying at the time that he'd wanted to go out with a bang!
I agree though... a sad way for such a likeable, long serving character to go.
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Old 17-10-2014, 14:36
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Are Drama still mucking about with the aspect ratio on these episodes
I don't know why Drama are showing it in 4.3 instead of 16.9 w/s, It could be that they got them from another broadcaster in 4.3 format
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Old 17-10-2014, 15:29
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Really I thought she was rather bland
I thought Debbie was blander than Kate, and she stayed instead. I thought Kate was more of an interesting character than Debbie at this point. I did grow to like Debbie after a while though.

Bye Derek there's been some brilliant acting from the cast in the past two episodes. Trudie Goodwin, Derek's wife, Simon Rouse, Steven Hartley and Chris Simmons have all put in some brilliant performances.

I loved Vik's exit and Jack giving him a good dressing down. June's grief over Conway's death was really well done too, and that scene with Chandler and Conway's wife was fantastic. Loved Mickey confronting Chandler too - you could see the pent up anger inside him and him trying not to completely lose it. He's starting to join forces with Kate again too, and I thought they were great together (as you all know already!)

This is the start of Jack and Mickey digging dirt on Chandler - one of my favourite storylines of 2002.
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Old 17-10-2014, 17:00
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I thought Debbie was blander than Kate, and she stayed instead. I thought Kate was more of an interesting character than Debbie at this point. I did grow to like Debbie after a while though.

Bye Derek there's been some brilliant acting from the cast in the past two episodes. Trudie Goodwin, Derek's wife, Simon Rouse, Steven Hartley and Chris Simmons have all put in some brilliant performances.

I loved Vik's exit and Jack giving him a good dressing down. June's grief over Conway's death was really well done too, and that scene with Chandler and Conway's wife was fantastic. Loved Mickey confronting Chandler too - you could see the pent up anger inside him and him trying not to completely lose it.
He's starting to join forces with Kate again too, and I thought they were great together (as you all know already!)

This is the start of Jack and Mickey digging dirt on Chandler - one of my favourite storylines of 2002.
Completely agree, its been an excellent couple of episodes.

I always used to dip in and out of The Bill when it was originally on, so most of the episodes are brand new to me, but ive been hooked every day for the last few months. (although Watch channel let me down and i missed the end of Series 16, and i had to pick it up halfway through 17).
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Old 17-10-2014, 18:18
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The actor who played Vik Singh then went and joined Eastenders as part of the infamous "Ferrieras".

Brilliant two episodes today. Is the fire on Tuesday?
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