If anyone doesn't mind downloading episodes instead of buying the dvds you can buy series 1 to 17 on the Australian itunes obviously you need to set up an account for that country plus it's quite a bit cheaper than getting the dvds imported
The Bill (Drama Pace)
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Just watched my recording and also the YouTube version - an amazing episode. The build up to the fire is gripping, and the fire itself is a fantastic stunt. Frustrating that Kate is prepared to shop Chandler, but then gets caught up in the explosion.
Originally Posted by CBel27:
“You're better off watching this taped original ITV transmission on YouTube rather than the completely, utterly atrocious, butchered version Drama aired today...
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“You're better off watching this taped original ITV transmission on YouTube rather than the completely, utterly atrocious, butchered version Drama aired today...
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Thanks for the link.
Originally Posted by darrenh2011:
“42 minutes of show today in a 1 hour slot Drama cut this up badly even des throwing the firebomb wasn't shown”
“42 minutes of show today in a 1 hour slot Drama cut this up badly even des throwing the firebomb wasn't shown”
They didn't even show Des removing the petrol bomb from the bag!
Originally Posted by ilovewallander:
“That bit when Chandler was bellowing at Kate to shut up then suddenly eating her face off was very badly edited!”
“That bit when Chandler was bellowing at Kate to shut up then suddenly eating her face off was very badly edited!”
She said something along the lines of 'you let Conway burn so you could screw me'
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Disappointing that this episode was hacked to bits. I'm going to watch my recording later but if this much was cut out, I'll probably watch it on YouTube again. Thanks for the link CBel27.”
“Disappointing that this episode was hacked to bits. I'm going to watch my recording later but if this much was cut out, I'll probably watch it on YouTube again. Thanks for the link CBel27.”
Originally Posted by Madsocks:
“I can't watch these anymore, they are just hacked to bits. And it's not just swear words that are dubbed, entire scenes are being cut.”
“I can't watch these anymore, they are just hacked to bits. And it's not just swear words that are dubbed, entire scenes are being cut.”
I've always known these repeats are edited but this one was pretty bad.
Some subtle cuts you'd never notice (Polly popping another pill near the end, sitting on the toilet before being disturbed by Cass and Di) to major ones like the attack on the station.
The severity of the petrol bomb attack on the front of the station was completely lost in the edit! Also, the scene where the fire travels down the corridors (which I thought was pretty effective) was edited out.
They edited the scene where June chases the gang into the warehouse and almost runs straight into a piece of wire at neck level on the stairway as the leader taunts her.
The daytime schedule probably forced them to edit the scene where June is trapped by the gang who psychologically threaten to sexually assault her.
Similarly they felt Des squaring up to Harry and calling him a "care in the community reta*d" was going down dodgy territory.
I appreciate the only way to see these episodes uncut is to purchase them. It's just a shame that a late slot couldn't be found for them to be shown unedited.
If anyone only saw the Drama version of this episode I'd highly recommend checking out CBel27's link to see it in full!
Originally Posted by Bonesy84:
“If anyone doesn't mind downloading episodes instead of buying the dvds you can buy series 1 to 17 on the Australian itunes obviously you need to set up an account for that country plus it's quite a bit cheaper than getting the dvds imported”
“If anyone doesn't mind downloading episodes instead of buying the dvds you can buy series 1 to 17 on the Australian itunes obviously you need to set up an account for that country plus it's quite a bit cheaper than getting the dvds imported”
For those who want the DVDs, the last couple of series I bought (1992/3) were available on Amazon.co.uk, still imported from Australia in multi-region format but "fulfilled by Amazon". This meant there was a free delivery option and import duties had already been paid. They were still on the pricey side but saved some of the cost of importing and cut out several weeks waiting time, being delivered within a couple of days. I haven't checked that everything's available by this means, but it's worth looking.
Last edited by Ken Tun : 22-10-2014 at 09:16
Disappointing that the episodes cannot be shown in full, looks like I need to dig my VCR out to play the fire episode, did UK Gold cut them this much when they were showing them?
the only thing really cut on the uk gold version was a small clip of police beating the rioters outside the station
Originally Posted by highlander1969:
“Thanks for the link.
They didn't even show Des removing the petrol bomb from the bag!
She said something along the lines of 'you let Conway burn so you could screw me'
I've always known these repeats are edited but this one was pretty bad.
Some subtle cuts you'd never notice (Polly popping another pill near the end, sitting on the toilet before being disturbed by Cass and Di) to major ones like the attack on the station.
The severity of the petrol bomb attack on the front of the station was completely lost in the edit! Also, the scene where the fire travels down the corridors (which I thought was pretty effective) was edited out.
They edited the scene where June chases the gang into the warehouse and almost runs straight into a piece of wire at neck level on the stairway as the leader taunts her.
The daytime schedule probably forced them to edit the scene where June is trapped by the gang who psychologically threaten to sexually assault her.
Similarly they felt Des squaring up to Harry and calling him a "care in the community reta*d" was going down dodgy territory.
I appreciate the only way to see these episodes uncut is to purchase them. It's just a shame that a late slot couldn't be found for them to be shown unedited.
If anyone only saw the Drama version of this episode I'd highly recommend checking out CBel27's link to see it in full!”
“Thanks for the link.
They didn't even show Des removing the petrol bomb from the bag!
She said something along the lines of 'you let Conway burn so you could screw me'
I've always known these repeats are edited but this one was pretty bad.
Some subtle cuts you'd never notice (Polly popping another pill near the end, sitting on the toilet before being disturbed by Cass and Di) to major ones like the attack on the station.
The severity of the petrol bomb attack on the front of the station was completely lost in the edit! Also, the scene where the fire travels down the corridors (which I thought was pretty effective) was edited out.
They edited the scene where June chases the gang into the warehouse and almost runs straight into a piece of wire at neck level on the stairway as the leader taunts her.
The daytime schedule probably forced them to edit the scene where June is trapped by the gang who psychologically threaten to sexually assault her.
Similarly they felt Des squaring up to Harry and calling him a "care in the community reta*d" was going down dodgy territory.
I appreciate the only way to see these episodes uncut is to purchase them. It's just a shame that a late slot couldn't be found for them to be shown unedited.
If anyone only saw the Drama version of this episode I'd highly recommend checking out CBel27's link to see it in full!
”
I watched the YouTube episode and the other bit cut from the Chandler/Spears scene was when he called her a little bitch.
I'm fed up with all the cuts, but surely they can show the full episode without cuts on the late night showing! It's repeated after midnight so why not show it in full then? Does anyone know if the repeats later are uncut or cut ?
Originally Posted by ilovewallander:
“I watched the YouTube episode and the other bit cut from the Chandler/Spears scene was when he called her a little bitch.
I'm fed up with all the cuts, but surely they can show the full episode without cuts on the late night showing! It's repeated after midnight so why not show it in full then? Does anyone know if the repeats later are uncut or cut ?”
“I watched the YouTube episode and the other bit cut from the Chandler/Spears scene was when he called her a little bitch.
I'm fed up with all the cuts, but surely they can show the full episode without cuts on the late night showing! It's repeated after midnight so why not show it in full then? Does anyone know if the repeats later are uncut or cut ?”
According to there facebook page people have been complaining as the later repeats are cut too
Ive just watched the You tube version, i agree the Drama version was really spoilt by the cuts, because of the cuts a lot was taken out of context, the bit with Kate Spears with Chandler, i didnt know she had a go at Chandler before he pushed her and kissed her, the drama version just cut to him kissing her and her kneeing him, i was a bit lost as to what was going on.
The bit with Taviner calling Harry a retard, on Drama it just cut to Harry shouting "you will all be sorry" i wondered why he was shouting, now i have seen the You Tube version its made it clearer. As others have said i can understand cuts in the morning, but they could show the proper versions at night.
I don't really remember the fire and what happened first time around, so finding out Taviner threw the petrol bomb into Monroe's offfice, and causing the explosion was a shock, i'm loving it, its like watching a brand new drama for me.
I like the bit where everyone was going to the pub, and a few were told they had to stay and do some work, you could just tell they were the ones to die. They should have all just wore jumpers with a target printed on
The bit with Taviner calling Harry a retard, on Drama it just cut to Harry shouting "you will all be sorry" i wondered why he was shouting, now i have seen the You Tube version its made it clearer. As others have said i can understand cuts in the morning, but they could show the proper versions at night.
I don't really remember the fire and what happened first time around, so finding out Taviner threw the petrol bomb into Monroe's offfice, and causing the explosion was a shock, i'm loving it, its like watching a brand new drama for me.
I like the bit where everyone was going to the pub, and a few were told they had to stay and do some work, you could just tell they were the ones to die. They should have all just wore jumpers with a target printed on
Yea no reason to cut the late night versions and if they are going to make cuts at least make them a little less obvious, poor editing and it makes the show look bad. One of the best episodes hacked to pieces, I'm just glad I kept a copy of the original. Plus if UK Gold didn't make these cuts then why are Drama now, it's still UKTV as before.
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“I like the bit where everyone was going to the pub, and a few were told they had to stay and do some work, you could just tell they were the ones to die. They should have all just wore jumpers with a target printed on”
“I like the bit where everyone was going to the pub, and a few were told they had to stay and do some work, you could just tell they were the ones to die. They should have all just wore jumpers with a target printed on
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Or red ones.
It's a shame they killed so many of my favourites that I remember from the time. I would only have killed off Monroe and Riley, and maybe Kate but she's grown on my recently!
So poor Polly asks Stamp to keep it quiet about her suicide attempt,,, so he goes off tells Jim Carver, then blames June Acklund for it, he's a bit of a knob is Tony. (well acted though imo)
Originally Posted by highlander1969:
“The severity of the petrol bomb attack on the front of the station was completely lost in the edit! Also, the scene where the fire travels down the corridors (which I thought was pretty effective) was edited out.
I appreciate the only way to see these episodes uncut is to purchase them. It's just a shame that a late slot couldn't be found for them to be shown unedited.
If anyone only saw the Drama version of this episode I'd highly recommend checking out CBel27's link to see it in full!”
“The severity of the petrol bomb attack on the front of the station was completely lost in the edit! Also, the scene where the fire travels down the corridors (which I thought was pretty effective) was edited out.
I appreciate the only way to see these episodes uncut is to purchase them. It's just a shame that a late slot couldn't be found for them to be shown unedited.
If anyone only saw the Drama version of this episode I'd highly recommend checking out CBel27's link to see it in full!
”
I loved that whole sequence of Des throwing the bomb, Sam looking puzzled by what was going on and the fire travelling down the corridors - very effective. It was good to see that on the YouTube version. Poor Sam
he is such a nice, lovely character. If I was Cass, I would happily settle for him.
Originally Posted by Ken Tun:
“For those who want the DVDs, the last couple of series I bought (1992/3) were available on Amazon.co.uk, still imported from Australia in multi-region format but "fulfilled by Amazon". This meant there was a free delivery option and import duties had already been paid. They were still on the pricey side but saved some of the cost of importing and cut out several weeks waiting time, being delivered within a couple of days. I haven't checked that everything's available by this means, but it's worth looking.”
“For those who want the DVDs, the last couple of series I bought (1992/3) were available on Amazon.co.uk, still imported from Australia in multi-region format but "fulfilled by Amazon". This meant there was a free delivery option and import duties had already been paid. They were still on the pricey side but saved some of the cost of importing and cut out several weeks waiting time, being delivered within a couple of days. I haven't checked that everything's available by this means, but it's worth looking.”
I've bought a few of the DVDs myself already - they are of an excellent quality, though pricey. The cuts on Drama doesn't usually bother me much, but it was the fact the fire was such a big event and it was cut, that was annoying.
Originally Posted by Bonesy84:
“According to there facebook page people have been complaining as the later repeats are cut too”
“According to there facebook page people have been complaining as the later repeats are cut too”
I really can't see the point in cutting the late ones
Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“It's a shame they killed so many of my favourites that I remember from the time. I would only have killed off Monroe and Riley, and maybe Kate but she's grown on my recently!”
“It's a shame they killed so many of my favourites that I remember from the time. I would only have killed off Monroe and Riley, and maybe Kate but she's grown on my recently!”
She's grown on your what?
Originally Posted by Bonesy84:
“If anyone doesn't mind downloading episodes instead of buying the dvds you can buy series 1 to 17 on the Australian itunes obviously you need to set up an account for that country plus it's quite a bit cheaper than getting the dvds imported”
“If anyone doesn't mind downloading episodes instead of buying the dvds you can buy series 1 to 17 on the Australian itunes obviously you need to set up an account for that country plus it's quite a bit cheaper than getting the dvds imported”
And further to my reply at #1380 above re buying the DVDs "fulfilled by" Amazon.co.uk....
I just bought Series 10 (1994) Parts 1&2 and 3&4 (i.e. complete) for a total of £79.80 including free delivery. That's 156 episodes @ just under 52p per episode. Can Australian iTunes match that, I wonder? But whatever that deal, the Amazon/Atomic Movies price is worth paying to have 24 new DVDs on my shelf.
Here's a diagram I acquired some years ago showing the planned bombing of Sun Hill nick...
Sun Hill fire diagram
Sun Hill fire diagram
Originally Posted by f1fantic1:
“When do people feel was the start of the decline of "The Bill"?”
“When do people feel was the start of the decline of "The Bill"?”
The move to 9pm killed it, I know many would disagree and say it was happening alot earlier but if memory serves The Bill was doing absolutely fine ratings wise running Wednesday and Thursdays at 8pm, it would usually outrate what the BBC had on at the same time but as soon as ITV decided to mess with the schedules again and moving it to 9pm meant the BBC could attack it which they did with New Tricks and unfortunately The Bill stood no chance, it was never a 9pm show and if it had remained where it was then it would i'm sure still be running today.
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