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So this is actually happening? McCrae is flipping? Can someone catch me up on the events of last night?
A Nick blindside should surely be one of the best in BB history? The look on Nick's, Jeremy's, Aaryn's, and GinaMarie's face will be a thing of beauty!
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I will believe it when Nick walks out tomorrow. Still think McCrae will vote Elissa out.
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It sounds like the only vote in doubt in the Nick blindside is Candace at the moment. She's started a showmance with Howard and since he's fully with MC he might flip her.
McCrae seems fully on board, he's giddy and hyper at the moment. Jessie sounds like she's all for it... So just Candace in doubt. Judd / Jessie / Amanda / McCrae / Andy / Candace will make it 6-4 to vote out Nick. |
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But in the afternoon Mccrea had a meeting with Nick and they agreed they have to throw their names under the bus to not make anyone suspicious about them working together. Mccrea said why didnīt Spencer and Howard just lied about voting out Elissa.
If Mccrea really flipped i lose all respect for him because he only would do that to keep his stupid crazy showmance. But does he know that everyone including his side of the house wants her gone? Nick leaving would be such a bummer. And the non-player Elissa with her rigged mvp will stay till they drop this crap twist. Whatever, with Nick gone i stop watching coz he was the only reason to watch this horrible season. |
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I haven't seen yesterday afternoons feed yet, so I don't know about the Nick / McCrae talk but he seemed pumped that he was voting out Nick.
I don't think it's really his best move but he was in a bad situation with Jessie turning it was going to be lose / lose for him. If it does happen though, Judd / Elissa / Amanda have played such a good game the last few days. Especially Judd and Amanda. |
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Wow if the nice guys manage to pull this off it will a seriously impressive coup because I haven't seen a more hopeless case than Elissa seemed to be this week in a long time.
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I haven't seen yesterday afternoons feed yet, so I don't know about the Nick / McCrae talk but he seemed pumped that he was voting out Nick.
I don't think it's really his best move but he was in a bad situation with Jessie turning it was going to be lose / lose for him. . Poor Nick is set up to get evicted because everyone hates the nasty people. Sorry but i canīt take that crappy season any longer, i am done!!! I rather wait for BBAUS and with the new BBUK feed i have enough other BB to watch. |
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Alarms going off periodically, HGs gather in garden to look at things supposedly for HOH question comp. McCrae and Judd whispering together that Helen and Andy seem to have best memory. McCrae is studying w/ Judd.
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McCrae tells Elissa to stick to Candice and try to prevent Howard from influencing Candice. He says not to trust Howard and confirms that Howard is 100% in another alliance that will vote her out.
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I saw that McCrae got pulled into the DR yesterday morning and said he was in there for a while but when he came out he said that the DR had made him happy because he was talking about Amanda. Did he get pulled in again?
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Sounds to me like the DR told him everything whats going on outside and told him to flip. Sorry but i canīt believe Mccrea would ditch his alliance just in a second out of the blue without the DR. And of course production is happy to keep holy Elissa in the house.
Poor Nick is set up to get evicted because everyone hates the nasty people. Sorry but i canīt take that crappy season any longer, i am done!!! I rather wait for BBAUS and with the new BBUK feed i have enough other BB to watch. |
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The DR don't outright tell HMs anything.
They started arguing over the DR questions until production called them both in and gave both a formal warning. Dan later told the feeders that the DR is trying to mess up his game. Same happend here, i bet my money on it. |
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The DR don't outright tell HMs anything. I think the main catalyst for McCrae flipping was Jeremy threatening him not to vote out Kait at the same time as S/H/J told him Amanda has to go. It must have crossed his mind that Jer gets to keep two parachutes while he is getting pressured to let Amanda go. Of course the DR would bring it up, but it is in his best interests to flip, he was truly on the bottom of MC.
That conversation Spencer had with Helen about convincing Elissa to put up Amanda with the MVP nom had to be the dumbest thing I ever seen. This was a plan he'd even thought out and talked through with Howard first. Then he got back to her a day later and told her that it was Helen that had come to him with the plan and he was just running through it with her... |
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So is ELissa staying now?
what happened betweennick and McCrae for him to vote his ass out?!?! |
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of course they do by asking stupid questions. I saw it last year on feeds when Frank came out of the DR telling Dan that they asked him a lot of questions about getting blindsided. Frank was so suspicious and didnīt stop interrogating him about being sure Dan wonīt vote him out.
They started arguing over the DR questions until production called them both in and gave both a formal warning. Dan later told the feeders that the DR is trying to mess up his game. Same happend here, i bet my money on it. |
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That is a different argument from what you first wrote that the DR told McCrae everything that's happening on the outside and told him to flip. I am disputing that he was outright told this by producers.
Its like always, you canīt trust ppl in a showmance it f*cks up every game. Mccrea was my fav after Nick but thats over now. I get that he wants Jeremy out but what has Nick done? America want Jeremy, Aayrn, Kait, GM, Spencer out and David and Nick sadly are collateral damage. The other side of the house rides the MVP coattail to the jury house without even have to win anything. Thatīs just wow ... what a shitty season. |
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In that case i am really not so sure about what exactly they told him in the DR. I could see them giving him enough informations to know whats going on. Production wants the nasty side gone and they do whatever they can to make that happen. The whole season is rigged from the start with that mvp thing anyway.
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His social game outside MC is terrible.
They just keep her because of the mvp not because of her social game. And the reason they are so suspicious of Nick hiding something is the DR is calling him in all the time which isnīt his fault. |
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If Nick would have simply lied to Elissa that he would vote for Kait and keep Elissa then he wouldn't be going home. He acts awkwardly like this when having game talk with non-MCers that is why ppl think he's shady. Also the silly vote manipulation with Candice voting Elissa out and Nick voting David put Nick on the radar for many. He couldn't convincingly explain the discrepancy. The fact that he may be a decent guy outside the house could explain why he is a bad liar.
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Hahah, if Nick does get evicted he's only got himself to blame.
Props to Elissa for putting him on the spot, unveiling his sketchiness. Can't wait to see Jeremy's face if this goes down.
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Nick's social game has been horrible. I've only watched BB14/BBcan and this season, but he's one of the worst I've seen. He actively avoided people like the plague before he was on the block, even his own side of the house was suspicious of him.
If he goes, it's entirely his own fault. But the way the MC has played this over the last 8/9 days has just been terrible. The David voting strat was over complicated, their reasoning to vote out Elissa was completely illogical, then they constantly picked at Amanda until she became a HUGE problem, they pushed McCrae away with every conversation about Amanda and then they started to throw their "fake" alliance members under the bus to each other. It's just mind boggling, if they'd kept calm and just rode the week out Nick would be for sure staying. Now it's 50/50. |
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If Nick would have simply lied to Elissa that he would vote for Kait and keep Elissa then he wouldn't be going home.
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Also the silly vote manipulation with Candice voting Elissa out and Nick voting David put Nick on the radar for many. He couldn't convincingly explain the discrepancy. The fact that he may be a decent guy outside the house could explain why he is a bad liar.
But wasnīt that Spencers idea? That didnīt came from Nick afaik.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shine_On
Nick's social game has been horrible. I've only watched BB14/BBcan and this season, but he's one of the worst I've seen. He actively avoided people like the plague before he was on the block, even his own side of the house was suspicious of him.
The biggest reason they are suspicous of Nick is his DR time and thats not his fault as i said. To have no gametalk in week 1 isnīt that bad. He didnīt avoid conversations with ppl he just didnīt talk game. |
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It really does make the most sense to get rid of Nick for Mcrae though. He will then be on the side of the numbers, with 8 votes to 6. So even if one of the 6 wins and puts him up, one of the 8 will win MVP (I assume so, as i doubt the others will get any votes. And then the 6 left vote for that person, and they keep their numbers. It makes most sense really.
If he doesnt, then he'd have to hope that one of his side wins, and then MVP would probably put him up for turning against thrm, and he has a chance of going home. Its just a shame that its Nick, because i would prefer it be one of the girls, or Spncer!!!! |
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I saw that live and my opinion was he didnīt want to risk to tell her he is voting out Kait and Elissa running to Kait and telling her about it. From my point of view Elissa took that as an excuse to put him up what she wanted to do anyway . Kait would have 100% never voted with her so why did she protect her, Jeremys showmance? That makes no sense. She wants the guys out thats the reason.
It makes sense to pick Nick, as it gets rid of a threat if they go, and it would be easier to bring people (like Mcrae and Jessie) over to vote that person out... |
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Loving Judd, his work ethic is through the roof. He's always talk blocking, diverting attention or working a new ally. The guy is such a good surprise.
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