Then whittle the candidates down until the final
They really should do this scrutiny of the businesses at the BEGINNING
1 of 2
Originally Posted by DamienS:
“Then whittle the candidates down until the final”
“Then whittle the candidates down until the final”
I thought that too!! What if one of the other candidates who got previously fired had good plans?? I know Sugar references the plans when firing them but has anyone done any in depth analysis??? Lord Sugar should be fired for that oversight if so
I think they almost certainly do, but choose to ignore it for entertainment value later on. Realistically, there's no way that there are going to be 16 ideas that interest Alan Sugar, all coming from people "interesting" enough to cast on a reality show. The vast majority of the candidates are simply there to be picked off one by one - if someones idea happens to be a disaster, all the better to use it against them for dramatic effect at the end.
They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“I think they almost certainly do, but choose to ignore it for entertainment value later on. Realistically, there's no way that there are going to be 16 ideas that interest Alan Sugar, all coming from people "interesting" enough to cast on a reality show. The vast majority of the candidates are simply there to be picked off one by one - if someones idea happens to be a disaster, all the better to use it against them for dramatic effect at the end.”
“I think they almost certainly do, but choose to ignore it for entertainment value later on. Realistically, there's no way that there are going to be 16 ideas that interest Alan Sugar, all coming from people "interesting" enough to cast on a reality show. The vast majority of the candidates are simply there to be picked off one by one - if someones idea happens to be a disaster, all the better to use it against them for dramatic effect at the end.”
WHOA U SAYIN THIS AN ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAMME BRO? DIGITAL SpY GoNNA KILL YOU NOW THIS IS REEL LIFE
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.”
“They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.”
To a point I agree, and think the whole thing would feel a whole lot fairer, but from a television point of view, I can see why they don't.
Even if you have 16 very good plans, the odds of Alan Sugar being interested in all of them is slim. If 13-14 candidates are just there to fill places for a show, I can see why they cast some idiots and some with ridiculous ideas to fill in the 11 episodes before the final.
Originally Posted by elasticlove:
“They'd probably want to fire all but a few of the character's in that case.”
“They'd probably want to fire all but a few of the character's in that case.”
Good point.
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“I think they almost certainly do, but choose to ignore it for entertainment value later on. Realistically, there's no way that there are going to be 16 ideas that interest Alan Sugar, all coming from people "interesting" enough to cast on a reality show. The vast majority of the candidates are simply there to be picked off one by one - if someones idea happens to be a disaster, all the better to use it against them for dramatic effect at the end.”
“I think they almost certainly do, but choose to ignore it for entertainment value later on. Realistically, there's no way that there are going to be 16 ideas that interest Alan Sugar, all coming from people "interesting" enough to cast on a reality show. The vast majority of the candidates are simply there to be picked off one by one - if someones idea happens to be a disaster, all the better to use it against them for dramatic effect at the end.”
Sorry missed this. Yeah basically what Kyle123 said!
TV, don't you just love it!
I donīt believe for a second that that scrutiny is not carried out at the start of the program. Of course they knew about Jordanīs lack of ownership in the business... but they probably thought it would make him a great victim for the interviews.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.”
“They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.”
The thing is that jordan didnt even provide entertainment, he had a minute of glory here and there and that's it.
Originally Posted by DamienS:
“Then whittle the candidates down until the final”
“Then whittle the candidates down until the final”
No. It's quite clear from LS's decision regarding Francesca that he invests in the person as much as the plan. A good mix of both is a recipe for success.
You could have someone who writes a fantastic business plan, perhaps with outside help, vis a vis Tom Gearing, but who lacks the personality to work with LS and/or drive to see a plan through.
What you suggest would be a recipe for even more bull than that we see on the programme already.
I'm getting tired of these reality shows casting their contestants to type.
It is hard to believe that they always manage to find an old one, a black one, a 'loony' one, an educated one etc. It should be a totally random selection and that would actually make it more interesting IMHO.
I don't get how the producers of these shows keep the same old tired format year after year and expect us to be in thrall.
It is hard to believe that they always manage to find an old one, a black one, a 'loony' one, an educated one etc. It should be a totally random selection and that would actually make it more interesting IMHO.
I don't get how the producers of these shows keep the same old tired format year after year and expect us to be in thrall.
Originally Posted by DamienS:
“Then whittle the candidates down until the final”
“Then whittle the candidates down until the final”
It's fairly obvious they did and saved it for the interview stages.
Originally Posted by Dission:
“I donīt believe for a second that that scrutiny is not carried out at the start of the program. Of course they knew about Jordanīs lack of ownership in the business... but they probably thought it would make him a great victim for the interviews.”
“I donīt believe for a second that that scrutiny is not carried out at the start of the program. Of course they knew about Jordanīs lack of ownership in the business... but they probably thought it would make him a great victim for the interviews.”
Which is why Jordan got stitched up good and proper tonight!
Cos lets face it, that was the end result.
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“Which is why Jordan got stitched up good and proper tonight! Cos lets face it, that was the end result.”
“Which is why Jordan got stitched up good and proper tonight!
Cos lets face it, that was the end result.”
He had been dreadful throughout too.
They must have known the deal with Jordan. If not, they must have done literally no research at all.
You'd think the producers would check but then surely the candidates themselves, before starting a process leading to a life-changing investment, would run their business plan past a confidante or advisor.
Leaving Jordan to one side, surely any sentient human being would have spotted that Neil was trying to have his estate agent cake and eat it, or have wondered why Francesca did not simply ask the bank for a loan if she was already turning over Ģ5 million?
Leaving Jordan to one side, surely any sentient human being would have spotted that Neil was trying to have his estate agent cake and eat it, or have wondered why Francesca did not simply ask the bank for a loan if she was already turning over Ģ5 million?
Originally Posted by lammtarra:
“You'd think the producers would check but then surely the candidates themselves, before starting a process leading to a life-changing investment, would run their business plan past a confidante or advisor.
Leaving Jordan to one side, surely any sentient human being would have spotted that Neil was trying to have his estate agent cake and eat it, or have wondered why Francesca did not simply ask the bank for a loan if she was already turning over Ģ5 million?”
“You'd think the producers would check but then surely the candidates themselves, before starting a process leading to a life-changing investment, would run their business plan past a confidante or advisor.
Leaving Jordan to one side, surely any sentient human being would have spotted that Neil was trying to have his estate agent cake and eat it, or have wondered why Francesca did not simply ask the bank for a loan if she was already turning over Ģ5 million?”
Gabrielle Omar (s8) did an interview and said that most people don't even expect to get on, let alone win, and that they only get a week's notice if their application is successful to draft their business plan in full.
She said that the show was good for opening doors and getting exposure and that she didn't expect to win. In addition she said a lot of people were going in for the publicity; some weren't even there to try and win. You can see it here and make of it what you will:
http://gcsapprentice.blogspot.co.uk/...elle-omar.html
I think that would explain why a lot of the plans seem messy, at any rate, although producers will cast several slots for entertainment anyway.
Originally Posted by Malik24:
“Gabrielle Omar (s8) did an interview and said that most people don't even expect to get on, let alone win, and that they only get a week's notice if their application is successful to draft their business plan in full.”
“Gabrielle Omar (s8) did an interview and said that most people don't even expect to get on, let alone win, and that they only get a week's notice if their application is successful to draft their business plan in full.”
That's interesting. Very, very interesting. Now that would explain a lot. One week isn't a very long time at all!
If i was given just 1 week, i can tell you now i would bloody struggle to come up with a well executed and researched business plan.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.”
“They should choose 16 viable plans, I agree. Based on tonight, Jordan should never have got onto the show.”
I agree, Jordan had no right to even be on the show based on "his" business plan. This smells more like the production company setting Jordan up for a fall than any sudden realisation by Claude and co of his shenanigans...
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“That's interesting. Very, very interesting. Now that would explain a lot. One week isn't a very long time at all!
If i was given just 1 week, i can tell you now i would bloody struggle to come up with a well executed and researched business plan.”
“That's interesting. Very, very interesting. Now that would explain a lot. One week isn't a very long time at all!
If i was given just 1 week, i can tell you now i would bloody struggle to come up with a well executed and researched business plan.”
Its true, it is interesting, but, if you were even going on there for the publicity and nothing else, even the most modest ego would want to prevent the kind of mauling that Jordan got.
Even have a half-decent logical plan and know the difference between profit and turnover
1 of 2
