She has won for sure.

she is not as attractive as the blonde doctor !!

If you were right, he'd have put Francesca through and fired Leah.

It will be the reason he says no

The least thing LS needs is more scandals, I guess he'll ring his lawyers and that will help him a bit making up his mind.

They needed to put Leah through for good TV as she is a more exciting individual than Fran.

I think this is true...He has raised the ethical issue repeatedly and it is never going to go away, all it takes is a 15yr old (claiming to be 19yr) getting a full range of botox treatments

Not that clear. They can both argue with him, both dealt with Margaret. But they both listen far better than Neil would have, and he was prepared to take Neil. Luisa has experience and massive turnover compared to anyone else Leah has a medical degree and a fantastic memory for her figures. .Both are credible. The question will Luisa devote her time to a new business is still there, but so is the question will Leah give up being a NHS doctor.If she gives up as a doctor he gets more adverse publicity.

The downside with Luisa is that she can be difficult and brings some media coverage. The upside is she thinks more like he does, and is an entrepreneur. The downside with Leah is what she does isn't politically popular, and its got medical and legal risk .If Luisa can work with her final team , the difficult argument gets hit some more. if Leah can make it sound acceptable she gains. It may resolve itself for him.

and in come the law suits and i think LAS has had enough of those due to the programme

Yep.


He had an issue with one of the finalists last year. That was about money - investment. No way is he going to invest in something even more potentially damaging should it go wrong.

I can see the DM headlines a mile off. And it would never be "Botox clinic x, y, z" it would be SUGAR Botox clinic.

I have no doubt whatsoever that Leah is responsible and reputable, I just think the PR of the situation could scare him off. A shame, because I think it sounds the most exciting business plan, and although she's had her moments, I still cannot say I'd be happy to see Luisa win...

There are non surgical cosmetic businesses on every street corner in every town - why would Dr Lips' clinic be any different?

He's going to get criticism either way. The media have been all over Luisa since the show started airing. Seems like both will be a risk.

I have criticised Luisa a lot because I have an issue with her personality. Her idea would help the industry a lot though, at the moment, almost everything is imported from the US (yuck). I'd be really interested in the outcome of this.

Yes, now the show's aired. He has Luisa and her rauchy pics to factor in. Although I read somewhere here that she has paid to have them removed from the net. That's a good start.

Personally, I have absolutely nothing against cosmetic procedures, surgical or no.. It's not for me, and people can go overboard, but I do understand why people are attracted to things like Botox and I wouldn't think less of anyone who did pop out and have it done.

.. The problem is that there is a political and ethical debate out there whether these sorts of things send the right message re appearance, and its a bit of a discussion topic that you could understand filling opinion pages of newspapers.

It has the potential for controversy. Baking, to be blunt, doesn't.

(I still personally think Leah is a better investment prospect and candidate generally, but there you go)

We don't know Luisa's projected figures for her new business.. However, her current turn over seems to be 3-4 times what Leah is promising. Its not clear at all which is a better investment, if they can deliver.

Not with her reputation from the newspaper headlines. Luisa does not come across well and would do nothing for his business. Also, like it or loathe it, cosmetic surgery is a growing business. He only might be fearful that Leah won't stay with him.

I really don't think it is as clear cut as that. I think both women have identified a business opportunity that has a big target market. The baking thing really has taken off lately, but I'm not wholly clear on what she plans to do? Is it to have products which smaller businesses can stock? Personally I'd just go to somewhere like Lakeland which is a one stop shop for everything I need. Or is she trying to rival them in some way? She really is very successful in her businesses, I was surprised, to be honest I did think Luisa was all mouth until last week but never expected her to be as successful as she already is. That experience may go in her favour.
Like it or not the cosmetic's industry is a booming one. I'd imagine one has to do more than just go in and say they're old enough before any medical practitioner in this country would practice on them. Leah said herself she's worked too hard to get to where she is to lose her licence to practice as a doctor.
Personally I think if she can perform well in the final task it is Leah's to take. The craze with baking, cupcakes ect will die down at some stage, people will always be vain and spend money to look good. I'm not sure Lord Sugar would struggle with the moral element as much as he said tonight and I'm not sure he'd actually be able to pass up the risk Leah's business plan.
The two strongest business plans made it to the final no doubt about that.

I wouldn't be so sure that Luisa has won. Last year LS rejected Tom Gearing's wine 'hedge fund' on the basis of its risk and went with Ricky Martin's scientific recruitment agency instead. He might, therefore, want some risk this year.

Furthermore he finds Leah herself an interesting prospect (oo, er) so we'll see ...

I think Sugar is having us on with his 'ethical' issues. What is being proposed is non-surgical procedures clinic (ie much lower insurance risk for the practitioner than surgery). It's not a novel idea despite the programme and people here talking as if it is. There are many, many clinics already run by Drs injecting botox and fillers. When you go you sign a consent form (as with any procedure) and (in my experience!) are both told by the Dr and given a written explanation of the risks. Provided that happens and the business is insured, what is unethical? The profit margins are very good (as Sugar has already commented in other arenas) and it is a world away from the issues around cosmetic surgery being badly performed, not least because injectables are not permanent (which also makes them more profitable because of the repeat custom.

Hmm ... there are ways that a doctor can hide from taking responsibility for medical failures and losing their licences. I wouldn't trust that. Someone who wants to sell a 'lunchtime botox' is unethical, if that's what her plan was, because you don't know your customers. Her eye is on the money rather than the service, from what was shown.

Re-the business plans: Francesca's was as strong, if not stronger. The issue was the person not the plan. Had Neil proposed her idea he would have gone through ... (weird twilight world of Neil and zumba!) I think Francesca's idea had more "legs" than Luisa's.

Since when is botox "unethical"?

What a strange idea.

That reputation being what?

Aren't ethics depending on the individual person though? I personally don't see providing a safe, medically certified, cosmetic procedure where the person is of sound mind as unethical, you obviously do. Millions of doctors and cosmetic surgeons practice it every day. Are they all unethical?
The idea was to produce a business which could make profit, I'd imagine all of their eyes are on the money, most businesses owners are. The demand is there, all businesses exploit some gap in the market.
I'm not naïve enough to assume that there are not ways and means of covering things up but in the vast majority of cases does this really happen? We all hear of the cases in which it does happen, we never hear of the millions of patients every year where things go perfectly well.
I agree Luisa's has been done before and there are outlets to do it, there is a demand. Francesca's idea is also being done everywhere atm though and I think it came down to which business LS could see himself being more interested it, I can't see him donning his leotard any time soon, I can see him wanting to close big deals to ship products or sell them wholesale in large amounts though.