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Jordan has done someone out of a place in the final
treetree
10-07-2013
Because his "idea" wasnt even his

he seems hes done a more worthy candidate out of a place

how was he allowed to get that far
TXF0429
10-07-2013
I'll copy and paste my response from the identical thread:

Quote:
“You can't complain about how LS never fires anyone based on the task and he fires people due to their plans and then argue that Jordan should have gone for his plan regardless of the tasks.

People have short memories - Jordan was only in one boardroom (and therefore had only one opportunity to be fired prior to tonight) and that was Week Ten, so the only person he'd have denied was Myles, who was never going to get picked by Sugar and, on the task basis, definitely deserved to go last week.

Unless you are suggesting that we break the format to fire someone not in the boardroom and then, what's the point of the tasks? If you're arguing that he shouldn't have got on the show in the first place, then that's a different argument and one that has legs, but you can't just argue he should have gone regardless of task performance once he was on the show.”

In summary, if you're saying he shouldn't have got on the show, I agree. However, the show has to follow a certain format and you can't break the format just to fire him when he hasn't lost a task or isn't in the boardroom. You're going dangerously close to the twists that destroyed the regular US version in that case.
Purple.
11-07-2013
I'm sure they were well aware of the situation a long time ago.
bigmatt1234
11-07-2013
For me, there is something really nasty about Jordan. Out of everyone in the process, he is the one I just couldn't trust. It sounds like he's spent his life taking credit for others ideas and has done the same in this process. I think Claude was justified in calling him a parasite.
xorosetylerxo
11-07-2013
he shouldn't have got on the show in the first place (no matter how much I love him)

but he hasn't done anyone out of a place as TXF0429 said he was only in 1 final boardroom and there Myles had to be fired as he messed up the deadly dinners task the week before and then messed up the smelling what was selling
Million Percent
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by xorosetylerxo:
“he shouldn't have got on the show in the first place (no matter how much I love him)

but he hasn't done anyone out of a place as TXF0429 said he was only in 1 final boardroom and there Myles had to be fired as he messed up the deadly dinners task the week before and then messed up the smelling what was selling”

That's a contradiction because if he shouldn't have been on the show at all then whoever would have been on the show in place of him may well have made the final.

Maybe he hasn't definitely deprived someone of a place in the final but he certainly deprived someone else of the opportunity to have a go.
xorosetylerxo
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by Million Percent:
“That's a contradiction because if he shouldn't have been on the show at all then whoever would have been on the show in place of him may well have made the final.

Maybe he hasn't definitely deprived someone of a place in the final but he certainly deprived someone else of the opportunity to have a go.”

BIB that's a very fair point however it's a case of we just don't know because obviously someone else would have replaced him and we just don't know they could have been 1st boot or they could have won the whole thing however this is a thing we will never know
CaroUK
11-07-2013
The one I feel sorry for is Myles who left last week even though Jordan let slip enough in the boardroom to let them know that he already had a partner and was looking to alter the business sharing ratio.

He should have been chucked out there and then for not conforming to the rules - but then of course we wouldn't have had the drama of last night!

Still means that Myles should have had the chance to put his proposal to the interview board, so unfair, especially as Jordan with his one man flogging cards and hideous candles and pottery act meant an even bigger loss for the team than they needed to have.
allafix
11-07-2013
Perhaps he should have gone last week when his multiple partnership idea surfaced, but Sugar was clearly intrigued by his technology idea and wanted to hear more about it. Myles didn't really deserve a place in the final, and Jordan's appearance in the interviews was better TV than Stuart Baggs being torn apart.
xorosetylerxo
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by allafix:
“Perhaps he should have gone last week when his multiple partnership idea surfaced, but Sugar was clearly intrigued by his technology idea and wanted to hear more about it. Myles didn't really deserve a place in the final, and Jordan's appearance in the interviews was better TV than Stuart Baggs being torn apart.”

oh god yeah I forgot about Stuart Baggs he got torn apart as well

I think they always looking for someone to get ripped apart in the interviews
Philip Wales
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by xorosetylerxo:
“oh god yeah I forgot about Stuart Baggs he got torn apart as well

I think they always looking for someone to get ripped apart in the interviews”

But thats not the point of the show.

He should of been dismissed last week as a fraud, then either Myles goes through or fired too!

But his whole thing, as I said before appears to latch on to other people and then "Help them"
allafix
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“But thats not the point of the show.

He should of been dismissed last week as a fraud, then either Myles goes through or fired too!

But his whole thing, as I said before appears to latch on to other people and then "Help them"”

All that was revealed last week was that he had another partner in mind to share the business. It was not then apparent he had no legal agreement with that person. But then he has no legal agreement about investment with Lord Sugar prior to winning either. That comes later, after the contest is over.

The issue raised last week was not his share in the existing business (which wasn't a business as such) but that he thought Sugar might accept a third share, not half. Sugar was clearly interested in Jordan's business idea to hear more at the interview stage and he survived on that basis.
alexjr2
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by treetree:
“Because his "idea" wasnt even his

he seems hes done a more worthy candidate out of a place

how was he allowed to get that far”

Because the producers thought it would make good telly seeing someone caught out in that way.
Tourista
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by alexjr2:
“Because the producers thought it would make good telly seeing someone caught out in that way.”

This is spot on....

Has there been one year when the interviews didn't "find out" that a candidate was a complete blagger and should never have been in the process at all?.
allafix
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“This is spot on....

Has there been one year when the interviews didn't "find out" that a candidate was a complete blagger and should never have been in the process at all?.”

Well there were three this year, with Francesca and her imaginary turnover and Neil with a plan no one else could find credible. This contrasted well with Leah's and Luisa's very assured interviews.
TXF0429
11-07-2013
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“But thats not the point of the show.

He should of been dismissed last week as a fraud, then either Myles goes through or fired too!

But his whole thing, as I said before appears to latch on to other people and then "Help them"”

Then what was the point of the task? Myles deserved to go on the task basis.

Although Alex was partially fired for his business plan in Week 9, so LS needs to make his mind up whether to leave them to the end or not.
Philip Wales
12-07-2013
The "but thats not the point of the show" was in reference to the quote about "needing someone to get ripped apart in the interviews"

As soon as Jordan mentioned that there was another partner he should of been fired!

As was mentioned on YBF by several people, "what don't you get, it's a 50/50 split, not 50/30/20 etc"
Amrywiol
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“This is spot on....

Has there been one year when the interviews didn't "find out" that a candidate was a complete blagger and should never have been in the process at all?.”

This makes me wonder - could Jordan sue? After all, he's had to put whatever career he's got on hold for several weeks and seen his reputation throughly trashed on national TV. I would have thought he could easily argue that he was misled into taking part as it was clear there was no chance of him ever being allowed to win the prize - he was rejected because his business plan didn't even qualify him for consideration, not because it was unrealistic, and this must have been known before the show started - and that would have been obvious before the start therefore he should be entitled to compensation.

Oh I'm sure there's something in the contracts to protect the producers, but I've no idea how enforceable that is.
Philip Wales
12-07-2013
He was an ass and has gone through life hanging on other people's coat tails!
He managed to get himself into the "Entrepreneur Club" at Oxford but it seems he never actually did and entrepreneuring himself just latched on to others, his first job was running the club professionally. But as far as I'm aware he still hasn't started his own business.
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