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For the first time in many seasons i was shocked by an eviction
bananaman_007
12-07-2013
I could not believe that TMC (i hate that name btw) were so quick to stab each other in the back. It was a really bad move for them IMO. I am pleased for Helen and Rachel mark 2 but just can't get over why the 2 that did switched.

They had final 5 and would have ruled in competitions. Also getting Elissa out would open the MVP up to others. She will win MVP every week she is in the house. Now having the numbers along with the MVP Elissa and Helen are going to rule the summer.
jungleyes
12-07-2013
If Nick was at all smart he would have taken Ellisa's (sp?) olive branch... She has a the so-called "minority" power (which is actually the majority) He could have kept himself in and kept TMC (yeah ridiculous name) going! His opinion that Spencer has the power is an interesting, albeit I think misguided one. Spencer's so called trustworthiness is short-lived. Watch out for Nick & McCrae
jungleyes
12-07-2013
AND this is what should have happened. Everyone knows Ellisa nearly always gets MVP, kick Jeremy out of TMC secretly (most likely to turn/cause problems anyway) bring Ellisa in... So stupid.
starry
12-07-2013
I was surprised, I thought it was maybe because I hadn't watched the live stream recently. A pleasant surprise though after the recent competitions hadn't gone well. I don't think I could watch this show with The Moving Company in charge. Maybe it would have been boring like that Brigade season (which I didn't watch).
bananaman_007
12-07-2013
One thing for certain. The game at this stage is still anybodys for the taking. Though i think if this MVP thing continues and Elissa keeps getting it, they should bring in a rule you can't be MVP 2 weeks in a row just like HOH.
xorosetylerxo
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“One thing for certain. The game at this stage is still anybodys for the taking. Though i think if this MVP thing continues and Elissa keeps getting it, they should bring in a rule you can't be MVP 2 weeks in a row just like HOH.”

I agree about the MVP rule because Elissa is going to win it every week until she leaves/they stop MVP
Kyle123
12-07-2013
I really am shocked at how quickly things turned around in Elissa's favour. As late as Wednesday I think she was out the door.

McCrae was in between a rock and a hard place but I think he made the right call in flipping. His alliance were targeting Amanda hard and she was a better ally for him than they ever were. I think he probably had genuine loyalty to the MC, but the strategy of using Elissa for her MVP is to good to turn down.

Spencer and Howard flipping was absolutely out of their hands though. Their votes were already rendered redundant because Elissa had the six votes she needed, so their votes were simply to cling onto the right side of the house. Spencer in particular is in huge trouble because the new majority have cottoned onto his lies and deceptions and his last minute change-up won't go down well now that McCrae has revealed the MC to Amanda and Andy.
starry
12-07-2013
McCrae sold out Elissa before, he just flips with whoever is around him it feels. He seems as trustworthy as Nick was.

MVP is a power but it also puts a big target on your back, maybe it's better if people have to keep it secret.
molly noggin
12-07-2013
I'm not convinced Elissa will win MVP every week. I mean, if I was America, I wouldn't waste it on her in a week that she's totally safe; I'd give it to someone else on Team Nice. Candice, probably.
Kyle123
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by molly noggin:
“I'm not convinced Elissa will win MVP every week. I mean, if I was America, I wouldn't waste it on her in a week that she's totally safe; I'd give it to someone else on Team Nice. Candice, probably.”

I actually have a feeling that Helen will win it this week. She was painted as being heavily responsible for the vote flip, and won HoH, as well as being super nice.
Anachrony
12-07-2013
The problem is that with the way the voting works, people can't all chat and reach a consensus. Even if they have similar opinions, their actual votes will be fragmented and split among the many alternatives. There may be far more people who want someone other than Elissa than who want Elissa, but they can't all agree on exactly who else so their votes are diluted.
bananaman_007
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Anachrony:
“The problem is that with the way the voting works, people can't all chat and reach a consensus. Even if they have similar opinions, their actual votes will be fragmented and split among the many alternatives. There may be far more people who want someone other than Elissa than who want Elissa, but they can't all agree on exactly who else so their votes are diluted.”

Exactly and the Rachel and Brendon fanbase will be voting for her sister every week
molly noggin
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“I actually have a feeling that Helen will win it this week. She was painted as being heavily responsible for the vote flip, and won HoH, as well as being super nice.”

Good point.
Linus2
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“Exactly and the Rachel and Brendon fanbase will be voting for her sister every week”

It was already on Jokerz who won mvp or was that a fake?
Kyle123
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Linus2:
“It was already on Jokerz who won mvp or was that a fake?”

I saw that but I think it might be to early for it to have been announced. Last week it was much later than this (though they did have an extra day to play with due to the schedule change)
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