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Old 15-07-2013, 19:54
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A woman was killed when she answered her phone when it was charging.

Full Story here.

Two things that I don't do is answer my phone when it is charging and leave my phone charging over night either.
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Old 15-07-2013, 20:20
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I'm unsure how 5V at 1A is sufficient to kill anyone. My best guess is that there are other medical conditions here that may have been triggered by the shock.
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Old 15-07-2013, 20:25
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I'm unsure how 5V at 1A is sufficient to kill anyone. My best guess is that there are other medical conditions here that may have been triggered by the shock.
In theory the mains could pass through the transformer and up the cable to the phone if the charger was fake or incorrectly assembled and the AC side bridged with the DC. The electrical clearances on the fakes have been known to be very scary.

I know the family say they bought the phone from an Apple store, but you never know if the girl bought a replacement charger or something, or it got mixed up with somebody else's fake somehow. It may even be that fakes have got into Apple's supply chain in China somehow as it's rife out there.

When you look at the electrical safety of the fakes it's a wonder there aren't more deaths.
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Old 15-07-2013, 20:57
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In theory the mains could pass through the transformer and up the cable to the phone if the charger was fake or incorrectly assembled and the AC side bridged with the DC. The electrical clearances on the fakes have been known to be very scary.

I know the family say they bought the phone from an Apple store, but you never know if the girl bought a replacement charger or something, or it got mixed up with somebody else's fake somehow. It may even be that fakes have got into Apple's supply chain in China somehow as it's rife out there.

When you look at the electrical safety of the fakes it's a wonder there aren't more deaths.
Who knows the truth behind this story, but even if you grabbed a live ac mains wire ( which I have ) I think you would be very unlucky to get killed by it unless you have a serious health condition.

I think the danger is where you get a sustained shock, like if you're in a bath and a mains powered device like a hairdryer or similar is dropped in.
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Old 15-07-2013, 21:03
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Who knows the truth behind this story, but even if you grabbed a live ac mains wire ( which I have ) I think you would be very unlucky to get killed by it unless you have a serious health condition.

I think the danger is where you get a sustained shock, like if you're in a bath and a mains powered device like a hairdryer or similar is dropped in.
As you say, who knows what happened in this case. However if the aluminium was against the girls head when the charger got tugged and caused it to bridge, then a direct shock so close to the brain cannot be good.
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Old 16-07-2013, 11:31
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AC mains would have caused the phone to been thrown away by her hand likely only slightly shocking her. Not sure what this is about but it doesn't sound that straight forward...
Been shocked a few times by AC mains.. still here.
Brain being close wouldn't be the issue it is always the heart, especially if it goes through one arm and grounds out via the other crossing the heart and stopping it, interfering with it or plain frying parts of it.

DC however she'd be dead no questions asked.
This article is very Apple negative to the point of smelling of Bulls**t.

However very little mainstream coverage over the S4's that have been catching fire..
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/s...ging-overnight

Heard of 5 in the UK alone.. (via retailers) no news at all about it anywhere!!!
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Old 16-07-2013, 12:12
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fake apple charger teardowns, some scary shit right there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-b9k-0KfE
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Old 16-07-2013, 18:22
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she probably looked longingly at a galaxy S4

so St Steve simted her from above
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:01
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AC mains would have caused the phone to been thrown away by her hand likely only slightly shocking her. Not sure what this is about but it doesn't sound that straight forward...
Been shocked a few times by AC mains.. still here.
Brain being close wouldn't be the issue it is always the heart, especially if it goes through one arm and grounds out via the other crossing the heart and stopping it, interfering with it or plain frying parts of it.

DC however she'd be dead no questions asked.
This article is very Apple negative to the point of smelling of Bulls**t.

However very little mainstream coverage over the S4's that have been catching fire..
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/s...ging-overnight

Heard of 5 in the UK alone.. (via retailers) no news at all about it anywhere!!!
Are you that sad that you feel you need to respond to this thread with evidence of which phone is more likely to kill you
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:16
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AC mains would have caused the phone to been thrown away by her hand likely only slightly shocking her. Not sure what this is about but it doesn't sound that straight forward...
Been shocked a few times by AC mains.. still here.
Brain being close wouldn't be the issue it is always the heart, especially if it goes through one arm and grounds out via the other crossing the heart and stopping it, interfering with it or plain frying parts of it.

DC however she'd be dead no questions asked.
This article is very Apple negative to the point of smelling of Bulls**t.

However very little mainstream coverage over the S4's that have been catching fire..
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/s...ging-overnight

Heard of 5 in the UK alone.. (via retailers) no news at all about it anywhere!!!
AC can cause spasms of the muscles which cause people to grip. Not throw it away depending on the current. DC can do similar.

Regarding the BIB. So no proof at all then?
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:33
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Are you that sad that you feel you need to respond to this thread with evidence of which phone is more likely to kill you
C'mon, it's pretty obvious the original story is link bait. Connecting an Apple device with killing people is bound to grab the headlines, more so than with a Samsung device.
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Old 16-07-2013, 19:41
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C'mon, it's pretty obvious the original story is link bait. Connecting an Apple device with killing people is bound to grab the headlines, more so than with a Samsung device.
Is it nowadays? Apple has lost appeal now and most people don't really care!
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Old 16-07-2013, 20:05
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Is it nowadays? Apple has lost appeal now and most people don't really care!
Other than the media most people never did really care e.g. the ridiculous Antennagate storm in a tea cup that passed the man in the street by.
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Old 16-07-2013, 20:08
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Other than the media most people never did really care e.g. the ridiculous Antennagate storm in a tea cup that passed the man in the street by.
Only it wasn't ridiculous. It was a problem.

Oh and that was years ago when apple did have appeal.
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Old 16-07-2013, 20:23
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Only it wasn't ridiculous. It was a problem.

Oh and that was years ago when apple did have appeal.
Was never a problem to me and any of my friends and family who all had iPhone 4's
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Old 16-07-2013, 20:25
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Was never a problem to me and any of my friends and family who all had iPhone 4's
Was when my Mrs had her 4 and was to many other people. Didn't affect me as i had a 4S however.
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Old 16-07-2013, 21:36
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Was when my Mrs had her 4 and was to many other people. Didn't affect me as i had a 4S however.
Never noticed any difference between my 4 and 4S.
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Old 16-07-2013, 21:39
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To pretend that this wasn't a major problem for many users is a little silly to be honest
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Old 16-07-2013, 21:50
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Never noticed any difference between my 4 and 4S.
Doesn't surprise me.....
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Old 16-07-2013, 22:12
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Never noticed any difference between my 4 and 4S.
you would if you play games, trust me, 4S is much quicker at loading anything and everything and games play smoother
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Old 16-07-2013, 22:40
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you would if you play games, trust me, 4S is much quicker at loading anything and everything and games play smoother
He means the signal issue that plagued the iphone 4 when 'held wrongly'!
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Old 16-07-2013, 23:32
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He means the signal issue that plagued the iphone 4 when 'held wrongly'!
If you held it right and not like an idiot holds it then there would be no problem... I'm with Apple stupid consumers
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Old 16-07-2013, 23:44
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If you held it right and not like an idiot holds it then there would be no problem... I'm with Apple stupid consumers
You mean as long as you were right handed!
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Old 17-07-2013, 00:13
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You mean as long as you were right handed!
Typical now you want to blame apple for those freaks who are left handed they shouldn't be using phones, next they will be expecting free bumpers the ungrateful scum.
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Old 17-07-2013, 08:49
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You mean as long as you were right handed!
Well I am left handed and I never had to consciously hold it a particular way and I never got the problem - although I could reproduce the problem by pressing a finger tightly across the join, but not at all a normal thing to do. As I said, storm in a teacup and the sort of thing the media love, as long as it is Apple. You lot obviously have a short memory but other well known brands at the time were shown to exhibit the same "problem".
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