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Old 16-07-2013, 08:51
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BBC News HD, BBC Three HD, BBC Four HD, CBBC HD and CBeebies HD are to launch by early 2014. Great news.

However BBC News HD, BBC Four HD and CBeebies HD won't be available to all Freeview homes.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...dchannels.html
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Old 16-07-2013, 08:54
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From the small print:

"On digital terrestrial television (Freeview HD and YouView), BBC Three HD and CBBC HD will use capacity on the BBC’s existing HD multiplex, which has 98.5 per cent coverage of UK homes. BBC News HD, BBC Four HD and CBeebies HD will use new HD capacity, which will cover part of the UK and grow in coverage over time."
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:00
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Great news about BBC3 and 4 HD
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:01
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And another thing... Ofcom are launching 10 new HD channels. This means the BBC are taking three of them (assuming the same timesharing arrangements as currently).

Given that the BBC couldn't find anyone to take the current 'spare' HD channel, what are the chances of finding seven broadcasters willing to pay for HD?
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:01
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Didn't take long for the link to die.

Try this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...dchannels.html
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:02
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From the small print:

"On digital terrestrial television (Freeview HD and YouView), BBC Three HD and CBBC HD will use capacity on the BBC’s existing HD multiplex, which has 98.5 per cent coverage of UK homes. BBC News HD, BBC Four HD and CBeebies HD will use new HD capacity, which will cover part of the UK and grow in coverage over time."
And from the Ofcom press release:

"Arqiva has indicated that the new channels will be broadcast to up to 70% of the UK population – above the minimum requirement of 50%."
http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2013/07/16...errestrial-tv/

Also this space is only available until 2018, what happens to the HD services then?

However BBC Three HD and CBBC HD will presumably be using the space that the BBC have been trying to sell off for some time, which is currently being used for BBC Red Button HD.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:04
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And another thing... Ofcom are launching 10 new HD channels. This means the BBC are taking three of them (assuming the same timesharing arrangements as currently).
Only two of them (BBC News and BBC Four/CBeebies). BBC Three/CBBC will use the space currently occupied by Red Button HD.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:04
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Also this space is only available until 2018, what happens to the HD services then?
Presumably by then everyone will have realised that broadcasting over the airwaves is sooo 20th Century and the great IPTV Switchover will be underway!
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:10
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[quote=Clusterbombed;67128887]Presumably by then everyone will have realised that broadcasting over the airwaves is sooo 20th Century and the great IPTV Switchover will be underway![/QUO

That can only happen after everyone has fibre optic and unlimited broadband.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:11
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Ofcom are under pressure from the mobile phone lobby to keep spectrum available for more 4G/5G etc... I think if the two new HD muxes are a success then they'll be here to stay, but if not then they can pull the plug and reuse the frequencies for mobile networks.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:13
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And another thing... Ofcom are launching 10 new HD channels. This means the BBC are taking three of them (assuming the same timesharing arrangements as currently).

Given that the BBC couldn't find anyone to take the current 'spare' HD channel, what are the chances of finding seven broadcasters willing to pay for HD?
I make that two 24 hour slots from the new 600MHz interim mux for the BBC: 1/ BBC News HD, 2/ BBC Four/CBeebies HD leaving 8 slots.

This was a joint Arqiva/BBC/Channel4 bid though ( http://www.a516digital.com/2012/11/b...annels-on.html )- lets see how many Channel 4 announce.

If they don't fill the mux, we might end up with quite a few 'temporary' red button streams.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:16
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E4 and Film4 must be the top 2 channels
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:20
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And another thing... Ofcom are launching 10 new HD channels. This means the BBC are taking three of them (assuming the same timesharing arrangements as currently).

Given that the BBC couldn't find anyone to take the current 'spare' HD channel, what are the chances of finding seven broadcasters willing to pay for HD?
There will be space for up to 10 HD channels.

Channel Four will be taking at least one or two, I think ITV were not interested (they have their minor HD channels behind a paywall anyway). Maybe Channel Five will at last step up to the plate with one or maybe two?
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:22
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I find this line interesting:
It is thought the addition of these new HD channels will help to further encourage take-up of HD receivers and so help the transition of the DTT platform to the DVB-T2 transmission standard

http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2013/07/16...errestrial-tv/
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:24
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So who will take the other five spaces? We know that ITV have put their channels on a subscription basis, will this space change their minds, or could channel 4 beat them to it? Good move for DTT more free HD,
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:26
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Presumably by then everyone will have realised that broadcasting over the airwaves is sooo 20th Century and the great IPTV Switchover will be underway!
I don't expect to live to see that, and despite my advancing years I have every hope of being around for a few decades yet.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:31
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I can't imagine them going to the cost of a second "switchover" so soon after analogue-switchoff - at least not for another 10 years, hoping that most STBs/TVs will come with T2 tuners by then. Even then, I suspect most people will have moved to IP-based TV by then, so I'm not sure if one last broadcast change will be squeezed in.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:41
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don't foresee a switchover but it sounds like they are looking at the idea. The COMs would be the first to go, PSBs would hold out for longer. I don't see a UK-wide IPTV infrastructure being as dependable as DVB-TX for a while.
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:56
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E4 and Film4 must be the top 2 channels
Top of what?
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Old 16-07-2013, 09:59
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There's another article here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23326709
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Old 16-07-2013, 10:00
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Channel 4 list of HD channels that are coming soon to freeview HD.
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Old 16-07-2013, 10:02
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film4 HD @ 24fps

Not going to happen but I can dream.
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Old 16-07-2013, 10:27
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If I were Channel 4, I'd go the whole hog and make a play for four HD slots (Film4 HD, E4 HD, More4 HD and 4seven HD (I know there's no HD 4seven right now, but maybe the will be in the future)).
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Old 16-07-2013, 10:37
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I don't expect to live to see that, and despite my advancing years I have every hope of being around for a few decades yet.
I don't expect it to ever happen - but it's such a 'good' plan, let's find the most expensive. limited and unreliable transmission method and get rid of the cheaper more reliable existing systems.
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Old 16-07-2013, 10:38
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Also this space is only available until 2018, what happens to the HD services then?
Some will move on to one or more of the existing muxes, which will convert to T2 at that time.
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