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This is a very naive simplistic view hundreds of thousands of dogs are pts every year and a lot of those are healthy dogs with no issues.
Some dogs with behavioural problems can be helped however fear aggressive dogs with no warning signals that go straight to a bite are blooming dangerous and need to be kept out of public or muzzled and leashed in public, muzzled in the house or contained should you have visitors, also the op has kids which makes this a lot more of an issue. Noone is saying dogs like this can't be kept what we are saying is there is no room for mistakes and . If you are upset about dogs being pts start advocating for tougher breeding legislation something that can help. |
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If it was dog on dog attacked the police would not be interested anyway! If you have the same attitude to a dog injuring a person, all I can say is, people like you should not be allowed to own them! You are dangerously irresponsible!
I dare you to come up to me face to face and say my dog isn't as important as a human! |
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And to not believe in positive reinforcement and training methods is to condone hitting and punching and alpha rolling like Milan does. Very unfair on the dog and dare I say it cruel too.
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And it's that "human lives children especially do take precedence whether you like it or not" mindest that revolts me. It is that arrogance that is destroying the planet.
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So I have a problem for not thinking that humans are the highest and mightiest species of all. Well excuse for not being an arrogant supremacist!
I dare you to come up to me face to face and say my dog isn't as important as a human! |
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And to not believe in positive reinforcement and training methods is to condone hitting and punching and alpha rolling like Milan does. Very unfair on the dog and dare I say it cruel too.
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And to not believe in positive reinforcement and training methods is to condone hitting and punching and alpha rolling like Milan does. Very unfair on the dog and dare I say it cruel too.
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I have never actually seen Cesar hit or punch a dog.
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It's not that I don't believe in positive reinforcement methods (as they work for a lot of dogs), but some dogs will not respond to them, and need a firmer hand.
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I have never actually seen Cesar hit or punch a dog.
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you tube have some episodes Holly the dog was clearly punched if he did that on camera what is he doing in private with no one watching ? lots of clips if you have the stomach to watch him.
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So I have a problem for not thinking that humans are the highest and mightiest species of all. Well excuse for not being an arrogant supremacist!
I dare you to come up to me face to face and say my dog isn't as important as a human! Frankly, you're scary and imo should not be allowed anywhere near a dog or indeed any animal that can hurt people with your attitude! |
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I saw her body language before she bit and his, the aggression all came from him she was reacting to him because he was not respecting her at all. Do I watch entire episodes not often I get too upset at his lack of any knowledge of how to handle dogs safely and his abject cruelty in many situations.
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I saw her body language before she bit and his, the aggression all came from him she was reacting to him because he was not respecting her at all. Do I watch entire episodes not often I get too upset at his lack of any knowledge of how to handle dogs safely and his abject cruelty in many situations.
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It's not that I don't believe in positive reinforcement methods (as they work for a lot of dogs), but some dogs will not respond to them, and need a firmer hand. And no I do NOT condone cruelty!
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If I were to have a bad experience with a black person, then should I also have a fear of all black people?
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You're scary and imo should not be allowed anywhere near a dog or indeed any animal that can hurt people!
Does that sound harsh maybe but when you see all these dogs needing homes and the lovely dogs in the pound that are about to be killed it put things in perspective, I would suggest she spends a week watching the healthy happy well behaved dogs that go into the pound and how hard it is in there, what they can become in that week and watch the hundreds be pts then tell me that this one dog deserves more than the thousands dying. My dog had a brain tumour which resulted in grand mal seizures after a year he was having about 7 a week and I made the decision to pts I like to think I did it because it was the right thing to do but at the back of my mind was always what could happen to my two year old should he collapse on him or bite him after a fit etc. I love dogs, rescue dogs would and have dealt with some dangerous dogs but I would never take in a dog who had bitten especially as I help with large breeds and its blooming dangerous |
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Indeed I love all animals and believe they are as important as people to an extent and can benefit a lot of people if well trained and socialised, however a dangerous dog or one who bites in this case is better off being pts rather than being an accident waiting to happenand pts in the long run anyhow.
Does that sound harsh maybe but when you see all these dogs needing homes and the lovely dogs in the pound that are about to be killed it put things in perspective, I would suggest she spends a week watching the healthy happy well behaved dogs that go into the pound and how hard it is in there, what they can become in that week and watch the hundreds be pts then tell me that this one dog deserves more than the thousands dying. My dog had a brain tumour which resulted in grand mal seizures after a year he was having about 7 a week and I made the decision to pts I like to think I did it because it was the right thing to do but at the back of my mind was always what could happen to my two year old should he collapse on him or bite him after a fit etc. I love dogs, rescue dogs would and have dealt with some dangerous dogs but I would never take in a dog who had bitten especially as I help with large breeds and its blooming dangerous |
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And what makes humans more important? There is actually no scientific evidence to prove that they are. It is only the arrogance of some humans that makes certain individuals think that humans are the be all and end all. Besides, it is sheer hypocrisy to apply that kind of logic (killing a dog because of behavioural issues), but not doing the same with humans.
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Certainly not Dog's Trust who say they will never put a healthy dog down. I don't know what rescue the first poster is referring to. Doesn't sound like one I'd want to know about.
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One that wouldn't put a dog with aggression problems in a situation where it could cause serious injury to its 'owner' or others! I wonder if you would have the same attitude if they rehomed an aggressive that went on to kill a child. I doubt it!
Do you actually know anything about dogs or are you just repeating a charities sales pitch? I suspect that the Dogs Trust wouldn't take a dog with aggression problems anyway as they assess dogs before taking them and expect a full history. Where did I mention about rehoming anywhere in my post? If the dog was assessed as too agressive to re-home it would be kept in a not-for-rehoming section and probably put up for sponsorship, where people sponsor dogs to help pay for their keep. |
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I take considerable offence at your reply.
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That's a pretty inhuman perspective. I love dogs, but I'm afraid I'd have to destroy any dog that went for my kids, with my bare hands if need be.
And you would kill a dog? What if one of your kids all of a sudden went for you or somebody else? |
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People like you are far more dangerous than any so called dangerous dog. You and your ilk are the types that find nothing wrong with humans churning out babies left, right and centre. That there is nothing wrong with chopping down forests and destroying greenbelt if it means building houses for the out-of-control human population. That if a non-human poses even the slightest risk to humans then it's perfectly alright to kill them. Disgusting! However I do believe that with the current climate the way things are for dogs that biters and dogs that pose a risk should be destroyed - you are totally uneducated on the subject and should really go and spend a week in the pounds and see the innocent dogs destroyed as there are no room for them at shelters, cos people keep churning out dogs for profit that's what a disgrace not putting to sleep a dangerous dog and you are incredibly naïve and simplistic on a subject you clearly don't know a lot about. |
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No it is not. It is a realistic perspective. As I have said before, it is people buying into the notion (that is all it is by the way - not a hard fact) that humans should reign supreme that has gotten the planet into such a horrible mess!
And you would kill a dog? What if one of your kids all of a sudden went for you or somebody else? |
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I am another who doesn't agree with churning out babies, didn't even add to the population myself, but I cannot see why that has anything to do with the subject in question.
It is an odd person who does not think a dangerous dog should be taken out of society IM0 I assume they don't want all murderers and rapist etc released but who knows if they hate the human race so much they may just think that is ok too. |
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