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Tears In Heaven - bad choice of Tsunami song.
(Couldn't find any other posts in Music, search is down, so apologies if there's already a thread)
Do people actually *think* about lyrics to charity records? Surely someone out of the allstar lineup of Sharon Osbourne, Elton John, Pink, Rod Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne, Gwen Stefani, Rossdale, Aerosmith’s Steve Tyler, Phil Collins, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and Velvet Revolver will notice that Tears In Heaven is a poor choice of song for Tsunami victims? "Would you know my name, if you saw me in Heaven?" Well, a) I don't know who the heck Josh Groban is, even though I do live in the Western world b) What are half these tsunami victims supposed to be doing in Heaven anyway? Is this more religious imperialism? Not everyone believes in Heaven. Tears In Heaven is a fairly unique song about a man whose 4-year old child fell out of a window. It only barely makes sense as it is, and most of the emotional impact is in the delivery. It is not a sing-a-long and it is not even remotely an appropriate Song For Tsunami Victims. Heck, even Don't Let The Tsunami Go Down On Me would have been better. Or, like recent Children In Need songs, just an upbeat song that's not "about" the appeal. Please. DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT. Just give money directly to Save The Children or your preferred Tsunami appeal. |
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Oh come charity records are the new big thing.... haven't you noticed the majority of these artists need a career pick-me-up!
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I thought "One World Project" was going to be the Tsunami song. How many more do they need? Raising money for charity or raising media profiles?
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I know it's not appropriate but I can think of worse...
Like "Tsunami" by the Manic Street Preachers. |
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Kelly Osbourne amongst that line-up? Then again it was her mother who organised the whole thing.
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Pink and Gwen Stefani are also out-of-place there, as well as them being no-talents.
Another good song would be "In The Tsunami Now" by Status Quo. A vacation in a foreign land Uncle Sam does the best he can You're in the tsunami now Oh-oh, you're in the tsunami, now |
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I know it's not appropriate but I can think of worse...
Like "Tsunami" by the Manic Street Preachers. which might seem a bit out of place seeing whats happened in the aftermath out there. |
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Originally Posted by Peej Kerton
Oh come charity records are the new big thing.... haven't you noticed the majority of these artists need a career pick-me-up!
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I am 'charited out' already, how many charity records have come out in the past few month and there are still more in the pipeline. Like the Atomic kitten one and the Mike read one. I love tears in heaven but, like all charity records it is a bit insensitive.
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Josh Groban was in an episode of Ally McBeal
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
(Couldn't find any other posts in Music, search is down, so apologies if there's already a thread)
Do people actually *think* about lyrics to charity records? Surely someone out of the allstar lineup of Sharon Osbourne, Elton John, Pink, Rod Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne, Gwen Stefani, Rossdale, Aerosmith’s Steve Tyler, Phil Collins, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and Velvet Revolver will notice that Tears In Heaven is a poor choice of song for Tsunami victims? "Would you know my name, if you saw me in Heaven?" Well, a) I don't know who the heck Josh Groban is, even though I do live in the Western world b) What are half these tsunami victims supposed to be doing in Heaven anyway? Is this more religious imperialism? Not everyone believes in Heaven. Tears In Heaven is a fairly unique song about a man whose 4-year old child fell out of a window. It only barely makes sense as it is, and most of the emotional impact is in the delivery. It is not a sing-a-long and it is not even remotely an appropriate Song For Tsunami Victims. Heck, even Don't Let The Tsunami Go Down On Me would have been better. Or, like recent Children In Need songs, just an upbeat song that's not "about" the appeal. Please. DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT. Just give money directly to Save The Children or your preferred Tsunami appeal. And that joke you just cracked about a certain Elton John song............ it certainly shows that you've obviously got no thoughts towards the families and victims. Pathetic really. |
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Originally Posted by Anthony Haines
Pink and Gwen Stefani are also out-of-place there, as well as them being no-talents.
Another good song would be "In The Tsunami Now" by Status Quo. A vacation in a foreign land Uncle Sam does the best he can You're in the tsunami now Oh-oh, you're in the tsunami, now |
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I see that Norway are doing a charity song for the same cause. It's called 'Venn' (='friend') and features amongst others Lene Marlin and Kurt Nilsen. Read more at http://www.lene-marlin.no/ (you can hear it at http://streaming.reeltime.no/uni_ms/venn.mp3).
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This song is about an unexpected tragic loss, I think it's quite apt for the whole situation. A father losing a child is a tragic loss.And that joke you just cracked about a certain Elton John song............ it certainly shows that you've obviously got no thoughts towards the families and victims. Pathetic really. Thousands of people dying is a tragic loss, and the destruction of homes and property and the spread of disease are all tragedies. But the 2004 Tsunami is an entirely different tragedy to that of the song 'Tears In Heaven' Tears In Heaven is about the father, not the child. It is about a personal tragedy. It's about the father coming to terms with it and carrying on. It does not make sense for celebs to sing in relation to any individual Tsunami victim, or the ongoing situtation. It is also entirely the wrong way around for orphaned children. Please do not question my thoughts for the dead, dying and suffering and their families and friends. Nor even doubt my thoughts re Eric Clapton's loss. I just think they are very different. What I am questioning however, is the reassociation of songs based on the mood rather than the actual lyrical content. The Elton John reference was an allusion to a previous Elton John rehash. I may be wrong and someone has managed to completely reword Tears In Heaven to brilliantly suit the situation, but that is not the impression I get. |
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Originally Posted by Anthony Haines
Pink and Gwen Stefani are also out-of-place there, as well as them being no-talents.
Another good song would be "In The Tsunami Now" by Status Quo. A vacation in a foreign land Uncle Sam does the best he can You're in the tsunami now Oh-oh, you're in the tsunami, now |
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
A father losing a child is a tragic loss.
Thousands of people dying is a tragic loss, and the destruction of homes and property and the spread of disease are all tragedies. But the 2004 Tsunami is an entirely different tragedy to that of the song 'Tears In Heaven' Tears In Heaven is about the father, not the child. It is about a personal tragedy. It's about the father coming to terms with it and carrying on. It does not make sense for celebs to sing in relation to any individual Tsunami victim, or the ongoing situtation. It is also entirely the wrong way around for orphaned children. Please do not question my thoughts for the dead, dying and suffering and their families and friends. Nor even doubt my thoughts re Eric Clapton's loss. I just think they are very different. What I am questioning however, is the reassociation of songs based on the mood rather than the actual lyrical content. The Elton John reference was an allusion to a previous Elton John rehash. I may be wrong and someone has managed to completely reword Tears In Heaven to brilliantly suit the situation, but that is not the impression I get. |
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Could have been worse. Could have been 'It's Raining Men' By The Weather Girls.
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Kelly Osbourne amongst that line-up? Then again it was her mother who organised the whole thing.
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Hey, listen, nobody has to buy anything. Let's not judge songs that have been released by anyone who is well meaning. Whatever the public choose to buy they choose to buy. If the money goes to a good cause that's all that matters.
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
(Couldn't find any other posts in Music, search is down, so apologies if there's already a thread)
Do people actually *think* about lyrics to charity records? Surely someone out of the allstar lineup of Sharon Osbourne, Elton John, Pink, Rod Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne, Gwen Stefani, Rossdale, Aerosmith’s Steve Tyler, Phil Collins, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and Velvet Revolver will notice that Tears In Heaven is a poor choice of song for Tsunami victims? "Would you know my name, if you saw me in Heaven?" Well, a) I don't know who the heck Josh Groban is, even though I do live in the Western world b) What are half these tsunami victims supposed to be doing in Heaven anyway? Is this more religious imperialism? Not everyone believes in Heaven. Tears In Heaven is a fairly unique song about a man whose 4-year old child fell out of a window. It only barely makes sense as it is, and most of the emotional impact is in the delivery. It is not a sing-a-long and it is not even remotely an appropriate Song For Tsunami Victims. Heck, even Don't Let The Tsunami Go Down On Me would have been better. Or, like recent Children In Need songs, just an upbeat song that's not "about" the appeal. Please. DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT. Just give money directly to Save The Children or your preferred Tsunami appeal. oooooohhhhhhh very harsh It's well meaning shit. |
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Please spend your money in your local oxfam shop rather than buying the CD You might find CD there that you actually like, and a greater preprtion of the money will go to where it is most needed.
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
Tears In Heaven is about the father, not the child. It is about a personal tragedy. It's about the father coming to terms with it and carrying on.
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i think it a realy apt song.this song is played the most at funerals,its about the dead.and so many family's have lost children and love ones.
what do you think is a good song for this tragedy.agadoo |
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Could be worse
'The tide is high'by Blondie anyone???? |
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Am I the only person in the world to think that this is blatant badwagonism?! Firstly we get that flaming Grief Never Grows Old track from a forgotten Music "legend" accompanied by Z list "stars" and now this blatant attempt at trying to be "the" tsunami anthem for publicity from Sharon Osbourne
I'm all for raising more money and artists using their talent, but for christs sakes, I can't help feel that this is just a publicity thing for most of the artists to get themselves back into the limelight or something Craig |
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