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Old 20-01-2005, 13:27
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(Couldn't find any other posts in Music, search is down, so apologies if there's already a thread)

Do people actually *think* about lyrics to charity records?

Surely someone out of the allstar lineup of Sharon Osbourne, Elton John, Pink, Rod Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne, Gwen Stefani, Rossdale, Aerosmith’s Steve Tyler, Phil Collins, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and Velvet Revolver will notice that Tears In Heaven is a poor choice of song for Tsunami victims?

"Would you know my name, if you saw me in Heaven?"
Well,
a) I don't know who the heck Josh Groban is, even though I do live in the Western world
b) What are half these tsunami victims supposed to be doing in Heaven anyway? Is this more religious imperialism? Not everyone believes in Heaven.

Tears In Heaven is a fairly unique song about a man whose 4-year old child fell out of a window. It only barely makes sense as it is, and most of the emotional impact is in the delivery. It is not a sing-a-long and it is not even remotely an appropriate Song For Tsunami Victims.

Heck, even Don't Let The Tsunami Go Down On Me would have been better. Or, like recent Children In Need songs, just an upbeat song that's not "about" the appeal.

Please. DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT. Just give money directly to Save The Children or your preferred Tsunami appeal.
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Old 20-01-2005, 14:29
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Oh come charity records are the new big thing.... haven't you noticed the majority of these artists need a career pick-me-up!
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Old 20-01-2005, 14:58
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I thought "One World Project" was going to be the Tsunami song. How many more do they need? Raising money for charity or raising media profiles?
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Old 20-01-2005, 16:10
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I know it's not appropriate but I can think of worse...

Like "Tsunami" by the Manic Street Preachers.
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Old 20-01-2005, 17:07
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Kelly Osbourne amongst that line-up? Then again it was her mother who organised the whole thing.
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Old 20-01-2005, 20:24
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Pink and Gwen Stefani are also out-of-place there, as well as them being no-talents.

Another good song would be "In The Tsunami Now" by Status Quo.

A vacation in a foreign land
Uncle Sam does the best he can
You're in the tsunami now
Oh-oh, you're in the tsunami, now
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Old 20-01-2005, 20:54
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Originally Posted by Scissor*Sister
I know it's not appropriate but I can think of worse...

Like "Tsunami" by the Manic Street Preachers.
also features the line "disco dancing with the rapists"
which might seem a bit out of place seeing whats happened in the aftermath out there.
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Old 20-01-2005, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Peej Kerton
Oh come charity records are the new big thing.... haven't you noticed the majority of these artists need a career pick-me-up!
Not really I mean, Steven Tyler doesnt need one, Gwen Stefani is doing fine, Velvet revolver are doing fine, ozzy and sharon are doin fine, elton john and rod stewart are as fine as they have always been.. the only one who really stands out is Kelly osbourne, but shes a lost cause soo nuf said really!
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Old 20-01-2005, 21:17
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I am 'charited out' already, how many charity records have come out in the past few month and there are still more in the pipeline. Like the Atomic kitten one and the Mike read one. I love tears in heaven but, like all charity records it is a bit insensitive.
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Old 21-01-2005, 10:56
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Josh Groban was in an episode of Ally McBeal
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Old 21-01-2005, 12:33
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
(Couldn't find any other posts in Music, search is down, so apologies if there's already a thread)

Do people actually *think* about lyrics to charity records?

Surely someone out of the allstar lineup of Sharon Osbourne, Elton John, Pink, Rod Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne, Gwen Stefani, Rossdale, Aerosmith’s Steve Tyler, Phil Collins, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and Velvet Revolver will notice that Tears In Heaven is a poor choice of song for Tsunami victims?

"Would you know my name, if you saw me in Heaven?"
Well,
a) I don't know who the heck Josh Groban is, even though I do live in the Western world
b) What are half these tsunami victims supposed to be doing in Heaven anyway? Is this more religious imperialism? Not everyone believes in Heaven.

Tears In Heaven is a fairly unique song about a man whose 4-year old child fell out of a window. It only barely makes sense as it is, and most of the emotional impact is in the delivery. It is not a sing-a-long and it is not even remotely an appropriate Song For Tsunami Victims.

Heck, even Don't Let The Tsunami Go Down On Me would have been better. Or, like recent Children In Need songs, just an upbeat song that's not "about" the appeal.

Please. DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT. Just give money directly to Save The Children or your preferred Tsunami appeal.
This song is about an unexpected tragic loss, I think it's quite apt for the whole situation.

And that joke you just cracked about a certain Elton John song............ it certainly shows that you've obviously got no thoughts towards the families and victims. Pathetic really.
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Old 21-01-2005, 13:14
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Originally Posted by Anthony Haines
Pink and Gwen Stefani are also out-of-place there, as well as them being no-talents.

Another good song would be "In The Tsunami Now" by Status Quo.

A vacation in a foreign land
Uncle Sam does the best he can
You're in the tsunami now
Oh-oh, you're in the tsunami, now
I think that crossed the good tastle line.
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Old 21-01-2005, 15:28
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I see that Norway are doing a charity song for the same cause. It's called 'Venn' (='friend') and features amongst others Lene Marlin and Kurt Nilsen. Read more at http://www.lene-marlin.no/ (you can hear it at http://streaming.reeltime.no/uni_ms/venn.mp3).
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Old 21-01-2005, 15:47
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This song is about an unexpected tragic loss, I think it's quite apt for the whole situation.

And that joke you just cracked about a certain Elton John song............ it certainly shows that you've obviously got no thoughts towards the families and victims. Pathetic really.
A father losing a child is a tragic loss.

Thousands of people dying is a tragic loss, and the destruction of homes and property and the spread of disease are all tragedies.

But the 2004 Tsunami is an entirely different tragedy to that of the song 'Tears In Heaven'

Tears In Heaven is about the father, not the child. It is about a personal tragedy. It's about the father coming to terms with it and carrying on. It does not make sense for celebs to sing in relation to any individual Tsunami victim, or the ongoing situtation. It is also entirely the wrong way around for orphaned children.

Please do not question my thoughts for the dead, dying and suffering and their families and friends. Nor even doubt my thoughts re Eric Clapton's loss. I just think they are very different.

What I am questioning however, is the reassociation of songs based on the mood rather than the actual lyrical content. The Elton John reference was an allusion to a previous Elton John rehash.

I may be wrong and someone has managed to completely reword Tears In Heaven to brilliantly suit the situation, but that is not the impression I get.
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Old 21-01-2005, 16:03
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Originally Posted by Anthony Haines
Pink and Gwen Stefani are also out-of-place there, as well as them being no-talents.

Another good song would be "In The Tsunami Now" by Status Quo.

A vacation in a foreign land
Uncle Sam does the best he can
You're in the tsunami now
Oh-oh, you're in the tsunami, now
I know I shouldn't laugh at this. I just couldn't help myself.
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Old 21-01-2005, 16:11
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
A father losing a child is a tragic loss.

Thousands of people dying is a tragic loss, and the destruction of homes and property and the spread of disease are all tragedies.

But the 2004 Tsunami is an entirely different tragedy to that of the song 'Tears In Heaven'

Tears In Heaven is about the father, not the child. It is about a personal tragedy. It's about the father coming to terms with it and carrying on. It does not make sense for celebs to sing in relation to any individual Tsunami victim, or the ongoing situtation. It is also entirely the wrong way around for orphaned children.

Please do not question my thoughts for the dead, dying and suffering and their families and friends. Nor even doubt my thoughts re Eric Clapton's loss. I just think they are very different.

What I am questioning however, is the reassociation of songs based on the mood rather than the actual lyrical content. The Elton John reference was an allusion to a previous Elton John rehash.

I may be wrong and someone has managed to completely reword Tears In Heaven to brilliantly suit the situation, but that is not the impression I get.
I think it is totally apt as a Tsunami appeal record. There is plenty of fathers out there who have lost there children or child in this disaster, British or other nations in the world. Maybe it might help them to move on. It did when my wife gave birth to our first born, unfortantly it was a still birth. This song helped me to move on. So why can't it not help others out there.
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Old 21-01-2005, 22:08
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Could have been worse. Could have been 'It's Raining Men' By The Weather Girls.
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Old 21-01-2005, 23:37
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Originally Posted by ArtyAttack
Kelly Osbourne amongst that line-up? Then again it was her mother who organised the whole thing.
I look forward to not buying this record
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Old 22-01-2005, 03:35
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Hey, listen, nobody has to buy anything. Let's not judge songs that have been released by anyone who is well meaning. Whatever the public choose to buy they choose to buy. If the money goes to a good cause that's all that matters.
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Old 22-01-2005, 03:37
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
(Couldn't find any other posts in Music, search is down, so apologies if there's already a thread)

Do people actually *think* about lyrics to charity records?

Surely someone out of the allstar lineup of Sharon Osbourne, Elton John, Pink, Rod Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne, Gwen Stefani, Rossdale, Aerosmith’s Steve Tyler, Phil Collins, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and Velvet Revolver will notice that Tears In Heaven is a poor choice of song for Tsunami victims?

"Would you know my name, if you saw me in Heaven?"
Well,
a) I don't know who the heck Josh Groban is, even though I do live in the Western world
b) What are half these tsunami victims supposed to be doing in Heaven anyway? Is this more religious imperialism? Not everyone believes in Heaven.

Tears In Heaven is a fairly unique song about a man whose 4-year old child fell out of a window. It only barely makes sense as it is, and most of the emotional impact is in the delivery. It is not a sing-a-long and it is not even remotely an appropriate Song For Tsunami Victims.

Heck, even Don't Let The Tsunami Go Down On Me would have been better. Or, like recent Children In Need songs, just an upbeat song that's not "about" the appeal.

Please. DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT. Just give money directly to Save The Children or your preferred Tsunami appeal.





oooooohhhhhhh very harsh

It's well meaning shit.
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Old 22-01-2005, 04:07
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Please spend your money in your local oxfam shop rather than buying the CD You might find CD there that you actually like, and a greater preprtion of the money will go to where it is most needed.
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Old 24-01-2005, 12:25
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Originally Posted by paulgregory
Tears In Heaven is about the father, not the child. It is about a personal tragedy. It's about the father coming to terms with it and carrying on.
Exactly, that's why I would say it is pretty apt for the situation. How many parents have lost children because of the Tsunami that are just going to have to carry on with their lives? Good choice of song IMO.
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Old 24-01-2005, 22:21
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i think it a realy apt song.this song is played the most at funerals,its about the dead.and so many family's have lost children and love ones.
what do you think is a good song for this tragedy.agadoo
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Old 29-01-2005, 00:12
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Could be worse

'The tide is high'by Blondie anyone????
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Old 29-01-2005, 07:54
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Am I the only person in the world to think that this is blatant badwagonism?! Firstly we get that flaming Grief Never Grows Old track from a forgotten Music "legend" accompanied by Z list "stars" and now this blatant attempt at trying to be "the" tsunami anthem for publicity from Sharon Osbourne

I'm all for raising more money and artists using their talent, but for christs sakes, I can't help feel that this is just a publicity thing for most of the artists to get themselves back into the limelight or something

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