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Old 03-08-2013, 11:01
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I'm actually a little bit surprised there, EastEnders' episode was very strong last night.
Maybe it needs a run of strong episodes before word of mouth will help its figures?

Slightly low for the second Coronation Street, for whatever reason.
Dented by Celebrity Masterchef? It had 304k on +1, about 100k more than last week.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:18
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Maybe it needs a run of strong episodes before word of mouth will help its figures?
This, but also a "strong" episode of a soap would never rate any better than a normal or weak one, unless it it's been trailed or part of a big build up of episodes - for standalone good episodes, no one is going to know what it's like until they're watching or indeed until it's over!

The only thing that could happen is it could give Monday's ep a boost outside of the usual Monday boost it gets. Assuming it was strong - I didn't see any soap last night.

Emm, while still great, is winding down from the last big week or two, so I'd be surprised if it was ahead, unless marginally, on Monday. It's share of course, will still be comfortably ahead
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:20
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I think it should get ESPN sized ratings. All Sky subscribers who paid for ESPN would I imagine pay the £12 for BT Sport. Wasn't it £10 for ESPN? The numbers watching via BT TV will I'd imagine be pretty tiny, at least to start with, and it's also not on Virgin Media yet.

I'd be expecting Premier League games to get approx 500k, perhaps lower if a Virgin deal isn't sorted.

It's all pretty complicated though - my brother, as a BT Broadband customer, was all excited about getting BT Sport for free. Who can blame him, Jake Humphrey and those adverts constantly tell you that. Then I told him he actually had to shell out a load more to actually watch on the TV, and he could only actually watch for free on his iPad and PC. He was not best pleased!
I didn't realise that! The ads make it clear you get the channel for free if you take broadband with them. What con merchants.

Humphrey really has taken to this salesman lark...!
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:22
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That Music Show 542k which will have helped Big Brother
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:29
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I'm actually a little bit surprised there, EastEnders' episode was very strong last night. Is this the first time ever (possibly outside of BGT weeks) that Emmerdale has been ahead of EastEnders for every episode.

Slightly low for the second Coronation Street, for whatever reason.
In fairness people didn't no how good the episode would have been unless they turned in. Am guessing it could time shift well consider the good word of mouth. And I agree that's low for Corri second half.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:38
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I didn't realise that! The ads make it clear you get the channel for free if you take broadband with them. What con merchants.

Humphrey really has taken to this salesman lark...!
Yup, I don't think many people realise it. You need a BT Vision box or a Youview box, a BT TV subscription and a BT Infinity subscription if you live in an area that has it.

'Free with BT Broadband' unless you actually want to watch it on a TV....
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:39
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I didn't realise that! The ads make it clear you get the channel for free if you take broadband with them. What con merchants.
The ironical thing is it's only 'free' to watch, directly on your TV, if you're a Sky subscriber.

If you have BT BB but don't have Sky, you have to pay additional monthly charges for BT Vision/YouView and set up costs for a STB.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:40
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That Music Show 542k which will have helped Big Brother
That's more then that show deserved.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:50
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Honestly why did C4 commission this, his BBC3 show bombed despite having all the promo you could want, with the radio show.

Some flops are fair enough, but this was so predictable.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:17
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Liam Hamilton ‏@LiamHamiltonDCD 2m
Another quiet worker at 8, Worlds Busiest Hotel, 1.3m + BB eviction, 1.8m & ashes highlights gives 5 good peak, ahead of bbc2 across day.

Wow, 1.8m for BB. Don't know if that includes +1, but that's brilliant (last week got 1.78m), so would be interesting if it beat that last night.
Some very good figures for C5 there.

What did the Ashes highlights get?
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:18
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Some very good figures for C5 there.

What did the Ashes highlights get?
That's the only non soap related tweet I have seen. No others been tweeted yet.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:19
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This, but also a "strong" episode of a soap would never rate any better than a normal or weak one, unless it it's been trailed or part of a big build up of episodes - for standalone good episodes, no one is going to know what it's like until they're watching or indeed until it's over!
With a young-skewing show like EE it's possible that a huge, positive social-media reaction could get people switching on/over to it and boost an episode's average while on air, but it would have to be quite an amazing response for that to make any significant difference I feel. What it needs is a settled period of good-quality normal episodes, with the occasional big episode to draw in more casuals.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:25
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Emmerdale has now beaten Eastenders 9 times in a row. Is this a record?
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:47
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Honestly why did C4 commission this, his BBC3 show bombed despite having all the promo you could want, with the radio show.

Some flops are fair enough, but this was so predictable.
Some people never learn. Obviously with a channel run by Jay Hunt this was expected.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:54
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Can't believe how long Emm has stayed out in front for. The difference in share between that and EE is astonishing too - and shows really that in terms of raw numbers it can only get so much at 7pm and there's clearly more viewers up for grabs later, so it's doing fantastically to be ahead.
Total TV audience during the soaps' slots (tape-checked for all except E4):

19:35-20:00 - Coronation Street: 7.14m / (38.5%) = 18.5m
20:30-20:55 - Coronation Street: 6.75m / (32.5%) = 20.8m
19:00-19:30 - Emmerdale: 5.93m / (36.0%) = 16.5m
20:00-20:30 - EastEnders: 5.66m / (29.7%) = 19.1m
18:30-19:00 - Hollyoaks: 823k / (5.3%) = 15.5m
19:00-19:30 - Hollyoaks: 471k / (2.9%) = 16.5m*

* 471k/2.9% = 16.2m rather than 16.5m, but this is due to a rounding effect, as the share was for E4's Hollyoaks was probably slightly over 2.85%.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:57
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Some people never learn. Obviously with a channel run by Jay Hunt this was expected.
I've never seen this programme but it wouldn't by any chance be connected with a production company in which Jay Hunt has an interest would it ?
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:57
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Is the 1.8 for BB confirmed?
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:03
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With a young-skewing show like EE it's possible that a huge, positive social-media reaction could get people switching on/over to it and boost an episode's average while on air, but it would have to be quite an amazing response for that to make any significant difference I feel. What it needs is a settled period of good-quality normal episodes, with the occasional big episode to draw in more casuals.
The episode last night was really good, and if word of mouth does interest people to tune in on Monday, however its possible that the back to reality (basically crap) on Monday will put viewers off again. It needs a period of 2 weeks+ of good episodes to get its audience to build again and to get viewers watching.
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:04
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Honestly why did C4 commission this, his BBC3 show bombed despite having all the promo you could want, with the radio show.

Some flops are fair enough, but this was so predictable.
It was predictable not because it was Grimshaw but because it was a music show. Channel 4 were determined to try and pilot some music series because they think it's something they should be doing. But obviously ratings like these will really test their enthusiasm.

As the new host of R1 breakfast, with a background on C4, it wasn't that ridiculous to have him front it. And the show was produced by Wall To Wall, who make The Voice (although I guess that could be seen as a good or a bad thing!). They tried to make it a cross of the usual Friday night fare with a bit of music which seems reasonable in an era where music just doesn't rate.

But I don't think it mattered what they did, music was never going to work.
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:17
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With a young-skewing show like EE it's possible that a huge, positive social-media reaction could get people switching on/over to it and boost an episode's average while on air, but it would have to be quite an amazing response for that to make any significant difference I feel. What it needs is a settled period of good-quality normal episodes, with the occasional big episode to draw in more casuals.
The best thing for an EE ratings revival will be for people to come back from summer holidays, go back to school, for the sun to start setting before 7.30, the air to turn cooler, and it to get wetter.

Trust me, if all of the above happen in the next month or so, the ratings will go back up, and EmFm will be back in third.
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:31
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The best thing for an EE ratings revival will be for people to come back from summer holidays, go back to school, for the sun to start setting before 7.30, the air to turn cooler, and it to get wetter.

Trust me, if all of the above happen in the next month or so, the ratings will go back up, and EmFm will be back in third.
And EE produces some quality, or even above average episodes. Emmerdale has a strong next few months, so its possible that Emmerdale could still be in direct competition with EE.

Anyway its not like this happens every year, its the first time EE has fallen below and in competition with Emmerdale for this length of time.
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:34
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Emmerdale has now beaten Eastenders 9 times in a row.
Yes, it's nine times in a row (on nights both soaps air) that ED has beaten EE. Or seven nights in a row (on which both soaps air) - this avoids double-counting the two Thursday editions of ED.

Emmerdale (exc +1) v Eastenders
Winner in bold

Mon 22/07: 6.05m (34.7%) v 6.74m (32.5%)
Tue 23/07: 5.58m (27.1%) v 4.84m (23.7%) [clash, both at 19:30)
Wed 24/07: 6.00m (35.1%) v (not on air)
Thu 25/07: 6.03m (35.3%) & 6.39m (32.9%) v 5.69m (30.9%)
Fri 26/07: 6.05m (37.3%) v 5.24m (28.8%)
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Mon 29/07: 6.77m (36.2%) v 6.52m (30.9%)
Tue 30/07: 6.17m (35.1%) v 6.06m (32.5%)
Wed 31/07: 6.00m (35.1%) v (not on air)
Thu 01/08: 5.78m (35.4%) & 5.91m (31.2%) v 5.74m (32.8%)
Fri 02/08: 5.93m (36.0%) v 5.66m (29.7%)

The ED ratings above from the 25th to the 30th inclusive are not tape-checked. I believe this would not interrupt the run of wins, judging by the scale of victory on the nights when tape-checking might reduce ED's rating (Friday 26th and Monday 29th)..
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:37
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Any BT Sport ratings for their first day as pay channels?
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:41
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The best thing for an EE ratings revival will be for people to come back from summer holidays, go back to school, for the sun to start setting before 7.30, the air to turn cooler, and it to get wetter.

Trust me, if all of the above happen in the next month or so, the ratings will go back up, and EmFm will be back in third.
Well, I hope so, but you'd think the light nights and reasonable weather would hurt ED, in its earlier timeslot (bar Thursday's second ep), more than EE.
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Old 03-08-2013, 13:43
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Anyone got Doc Martin's ratings for last night?
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