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The Ratings Thread (Part 51)
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Hassaan13
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Of course they're "rewinding" last year's series...

Spoiler
The final will air in August and the auditions will air in December.


Didn't you know this?

”

Spoiler
*despite it being a joke, foolishly tries to think up how it would work*
Score
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“XFactor must be starting after 17th august as my colleague had an invitation to this series' press launch which is on the 22nd. They wouldnt have the press launch after the first episode's been shown.”

The first episode will air on the 24th then as last year's press launch was also held two days before the episode aired. Ties in with Fool Britannia's launch date too.
Glenn A
04-08-2013
I think all eyes will be on the ratings for TXF as it has lost 4 million viewers in the last 3 years. If it stops falling and hovers around 8 million, then ITV should recommission it, but if there is another steep fall, it might be wise to cancel it as ITV could be left with an expensive millstone around its neck. Anyway 9 years is a decent run for any show.
Hassaan13
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“22:00 - FILM PREMIERE: Kick-Ass (2010): 1.26m (9.5%)”

Surprised no one has picked up on this. A good rating for it.
Rowan Hedge
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Cant mock and bait him too much, BBC1 had the highest rating show and won the night.”

Actually baiting is against the T & C's of DS rules,openly admitting that mere baiting of another FM is not enough is unacceptable behaviour on an open forum.:
Cent
04-08-2013
I think Top of the Pops would work well in an early evening Saturday night slot, before Strictly/The Voice. Pick up a lot of families and casual viewers and shouldn't get lost in the competition.
Hassaan13
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“The first episode will air on the 24th then as last year's press launch was also held two days before the episode aired. Ties in with Fool Britannia's launch date too.”

It makes sense - how they are going to schedule the auditions though is something which I don't think anyone really has a clue about.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I think all eyes will be on the ratings for TXF as it has lost 4 million viewers in the last 3 years. If it stops falling and hovers around 8 million, then ITV should recommission it, but if there is another steep fall, it might be wise to cancel it as ITV could be left with an expensive millstone around its neck. Anyway 9 years is a decent run for any show.”

They could do without this 'manipulation' which has been taking over the show the past few series, as well as a good bunch of contestants which are going to get people talking. In 2008 & 9, it was thought that Britain's Got Talent's 'surge' actually happened to boost X Factor those years - but it doesn't seem to apply to subsequent series. If it hovers around 8 million or increases, that'll be good enough for further series'.
Charnham
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by AcerBen:
“May be true that TOTP would be less important than it was, but that doesn't mean there's no need for it. Watching music videos on your laptop is not the same as watching live performances on TOTP. By that logic, we don't need Glastonbury on TV either, or any music at all.

If TOTP had the right person in charge, they put enough money into it and got the biggest acts on week after week, and they put it somewhere it wasn't up against an ITV soap (difficult but Wednesday 8pm would work) I believe it could get 4 million viewers. On a good week IIRC it got 3 million in its last few months on BBC One, and that was when it was against Corrie and the singles chart was in a right mess.

One thing I never understood was how the BBC didn't make enough money out of the TOTP brand to make it not matter about the ratings - it was sold all over the world.

The Jimmy Savile thing could be a problem, but it doesn't stop them doing the Christmas shows and 1978 repeats.”

TOTP is IMO not worth reviving, its like Woolworths, something we fondly remember, but dont actually shop their, sure we all went to the closing down sales, and left disappointed by the rubbish that was on offer, in the process remembering why we didnt shop their anymore.

TOTP now would be rubbish, for two reasons

1) music is bland, all the Syco acts could not preform a decent live version of their songs, if they careers depended up on it. I saw Olly Murs perform Dance with Me Tonight, on one of the TOTP Christmas episodes, and whilst the radio edit of the song, was "not in anywhere objectionable" bordering on "Steering wheel tapping" his performance was dreadful.

2) international artists, it is great that the UK charts, have music from all over the world in it (even if alot of it is very commercial) , but those international acts wont set foot in the UK, yet alone agree to appear on TOTP.

Then there are other factors such as the basic format, the countdown of the weeks top 10, and 95% of the performances coming from the Top 20 is very limiting as to what can be aired, to say nothing of those acts, are basically Syco puppets, good for nothing but earning Simon Cowell money, hardly worthy of BBC airtime.

Sure the BBC can celebrate music, but it needs to create events, not just mimed performances of songs you hear on your radio, or whos videos can be viewed on YouTube. It needs to create unique performances, thins that in this modern day, will be shared over the internet, something that the artists involved will never do again. The best music feature ive seen/heard on the BBC in years was John Holmes "His Buskers Voice", and whilst that may not work on telly, the spirit is everything that TOTP needs to be, but could never be.
Chris1964
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Rowan Hedge:
“Actually baiting is against the T & C's of DS rules,openly admitting that mere baiting of another FM is not enough is unacceptable behaviour on an open forum.:”

Its not me you need to be telling
Hassaan13
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Cent:
“I think Top of the Pops would work well in an early evening Saturday night slot, before Strictly/The Voice. Pick up a lot of families and casual viewers and shouldn't get lost in the competition.”

I'm not sure about this whole idea of a new series of Top of the Pops. The ratings for the Christmas & New Year's specials the past few years aren't very inspiring.

2012
Christmas Special: 3.88m (26.6%)
New Year's Eve Special: 3.17m (15.3%)

2011 - Christmas Special: 3.9m (28.1%)
2010 - Christmas Special: 4.0m (27.8%)

2009
Christmas Special: 3.4m (27.6%)
New Year's Eve Special: 4.78m (24.0%)
Ambassador
04-08-2013
What are we expecting for this DW thingybob tonight?

Kids are off school, it's on nice and early so the target audience is clear and free.
mintbro
04-08-2013
The xfactor results show always generates a buzz with the live performances
Ice dragon1
04-08-2013
So who will be the new Doctor.
NeilVW
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“So who will be the new Doctor.”

We'll find out soon. 133,000 tweets for Doctor Who and counting, according to SecondSync on Twitter. At last the Beeb has found a way to get Whovians to watch live...
Ice dragon1
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“We'll find out soon. 133,000 tweets for Doctor Who and counting, according to SecondSync on Twitter. At last the Beeb has found a way to get Whovians to watch live...”

Wow that's pretty good. Can you just imagin if it was a woman
Ambassador
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“We'll find out soon. 133,000 tweets for Doctor Who and counting, according to SecondSync on Twitter. At last the Beeb has found a way to get Whovians to watch live...”

Whovians?! I thought we'd assessed tweets mean nothing in reality.

I do hope it's Dame Edna
Ice dragon1
04-08-2013
What WOW I think that's a pretty good choice actually. Wow
NeilVW
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Ambassador:
“Whovians?! I thought we'd assessed tweets mean nothing in reality.”

No but in the absence of real-time ratings (as depicted in the movies) they're interesting.

EDIT: a final tally of more than 250,000 tweets.
Ambassador
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“What WOW I think that's a pretty good choice actually. Wow”

Brilliant actor. Hope he's not wasted in this show and ge continues his theatre and real drama work
nick202
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“What WOW I think that's a pretty good choice actually. Wow”

I agree - I wasn't expecting them to plump for him for various reasons, but I think he's exactly what the show needs at this point.
dan2008
04-08-2013
BBC1 going to have a good night tonight. I expect many tuned in before 7:00pm also .
Brekkie
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Surprised no one has picked up on this. A good rating for it.”

I'm not so sure - 1.26m for Kick Ass is less than Red got on Film4 on Thursday night, and I've certainly seen a lot more coverage of Kick Ass 2 and the original movie when that was release than I ever saw for Red (had never heard of it until the ratings came through on Friday) Should probably have been aimiing for 1.5m+.
D.M.N.
04-08-2013
Doctor Who Live can be anywhere between 3 million and 6 million - there is internet buzz and then 'normal people' buzz.
NeilVW
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“BBC1 going to have a good night tonight. I expect many tuned in before 7:00pm also .”

If so, Deadly 60 on a Mission will be boosted. Odd for the last in the eight-part series to be shown 16 weeks after the previous episode.
Chris1964
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Doctor Who Live can be anywhere between 3 million and 6 million - there is internet buzz and then 'normal people' buzz.”

From what I see its been largely welcomed , will be interesting to see how it eventually plays out ratings wise.
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