They'd probably be better off just putting More4+1 on Freeview instead - after all the schedule isn't much different anyway.


Yes, C4 just doesn't have the shows of note to justify it now and when they do air something that you might miss and is worth catching, it doesn't seem to be on 4seven - or if it is it's on at midnight on the night it airs (like Southcliffe is tonight), so you're too late anyway. All the necessary repeat airings could easily be incorporated into the C4 and More4 schedules.

Yah that has to be one of the BBC stupidest moves going.

Like I said earlier, I think the Doctor Who reveal could get at least 7m viewers. The last series averaged 7m viewers, including the catchup viewers, but I think folks will have been very keen to see this moment live and so I see there being a larger overnight for 'Who' than there normally is.

On another note, Capaldi's appointment will be very interesting ratings wise, and particuarly in terms of the demographics. It seems to me that Matt Smith has brought a fairly large number of teenage fangirls to the 'Who' fanbase, whilst longer-term fans such as myself have found Smith's era rather more tedious than the eras of, for example, the Ninth Doctor. Capaldi's an actor who performs with real meat, a lot of grit, and he comes with a significant reputation and a great maturity - i.e. the complete opposite of the appeal of Matt Smith as an actor. Will the show's demographics start skewing differently now? Will the fangirls stay to enjoy the work of this new 'unfanciable' actor? Will the show win back some viewers who prefer the show to be less jokey? I for one wait with great anticipation to find out.
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True, probably best to stick to a 21:00 start, although as Dancc says, they'd have to rattle through the housemates to allow UTD to air at 22:00, should they choose to do so. Getting through all those celebrities in a one-hour show is pushing it. (There were 11 in January, during a two-hour show).


Interesting. Digiguide is showing that period as if it was a normal BB week, but presumably that will all change on Wednesday. I think if Channel 5 want to give UTD the best possible chance, they'll go with the Thursday option, out of CBB.

Huh? If anyone brought in the fangirls it's Tennant, and I'll never forgive him , he's the one who's gets that sort of attention not Smith. If anything Smith made them turn off, and as a long term fan I have much preferred Smith's era to Tennant's. Won't say anymore because this isn't the thread for it, but I disagree with quite a lot of what you've said even though I think Peter Capaldi is an excellent choice.

Also I can't see it getting close to 7m, Smith's announcement only got 6.11m in early January, can't see it doing better in August, 4.5-5.5m is more likely imo.

Oh really? I do apologise, we've obviously met different Doctor Who fanbases Either way, point still stands, Capaldi is a very different actor to what the show has been lead by certainly since Ecclestone left, and probably since it was revived at all, so the ratings for show for the New Year episode and onwards will be interesting.

And yes, you'll probably prove to be right on the predictions front. I've learnt from the RPG that I'm not much good with predictions

There was a clip on Bit on the Side the other day with Dexter talking about time to the final. He mentioned there being two Fridays to go and then "just to the Monday". That suggests the final being on Monday 19th. It wouldn't surprise me if CBB didn't launch until the Wednesday, potentially with BOTS remaining on the Tuesday to tide any fans over.

I wonder where ITV will schedule the one-off Blind Date in the Autumn? Should pullin a good rating

Definitely possible. They had a Monday finale last year. It didn't work though, partly because the show had received a right battering in the run up from the concluding week of the Olympics and partly because it isn't a good day to stage a final at all IMO. But good shout as it can't be ruled out.

I'd forgotten that they had a night off between BB ending and CBB starting last year. So that opens up another idea. They could have the BB finale on the Wednesday uninterrupted, make Thursday all about Under the Dome, and then launch CBB on the Friday. Another possibility to add to the mix. UTD wouldn't benefit from BB at all in this scenario but it would lead to a very strong week overall with something big across three consecutive nights, helping to maximise audience share.

Yes Tennant was the pop star Who, you only had to see the reactions at award shows to him and there was a long lasting "we want to have David Tennants babies" thread on here . I think a certain section of viewers left the show with Tennant.
Smith was a fine Dr Who but I don't think any incarnation has had the razzmatazz that Tennant brought to the role on and off the screen.
Peter Capaldi is different. Chris Eccleston, David Tennant and Matt Smith are all differing ages but all gave the impression of youth and zest (obviously Smith). Capaldi looks more mature and looks likely to bring a very different feel to the role. It will be interesting to see how the mass audience takes to him.

I think you're right re the fan bases, but I believe that might be part of the reasoning behind the Capaldi choice, to add a bit of gravitas and open up the show to audiences who might otherwise deride it as purely for kids/teens

Gotta say nick knowles is warming to me, I used go hate the idea of him and a shiny floor format, but now I like his style because it is totally opposite to what everyone else does. Although break the safe has flaws, the quiz element is good, just the safe part is naff, however the majority is quiz, so I'm still gonna watch, hope it maintains its audience

Moffat prefers a 2 companion set up for Who, it's a reasonable guess that Clara will be getting a good looking boyfriend to try to appease the 'fangirl' section of the audience in the 12th Doctor era..

Great post pretty much agree with all that.

A great choice for Doctor Who look forward to seeing the ratings for this. Many non Doctor Who fans will watch Peter Capaldi as Who. I think this bears well for a renewed inrerest in the programme. Expect an extra couple of million for series 9 in 2014. The opening is going to rate 8 million overnight for the opener. And expect 5.5 million for last nights announcement. They have given Doctor Who a shot in the arm.

And another Scottish actor cast in this role. Im so looking forward to him encompassing a mass audience again just as Eccleston did. Hes a great actor and this could bring in huge figures for the series again. Hope Capaldi gets 10 million again.

Whats point is this making here... Where is the rating content on the ratings thread? Or a debate from the lewd comment going to go? ... broadcasting thread if at all..

Most people don't know who Peter Capaldi is.

UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK 4m
#DoctorWho Live: A peak audience of 6.89m/32.5% watched as Peter Capaldi was revealed as the next Doctor. The show averaged 6.27m/30.2%.
9:34 AM - 5 Aug 13

A good rating on a Sunny evening. Higher average than I expected as I thought it'd be around 5m with a 7m peak. Higher than some episodes earlier this year too.

Will be interesting to see how the show does with Capaldi.

2.2m for Southcliffe and 2.3m for The Mill.

Tipping Point - 3581 + 181
All Star Mr & Mrs - 3188 + 170
White Queen 3401
L&O - 3663 + 248
Top Gear - 4680
Big Bro - 1210 (+1 225k)

Family Guy - 1106

It was lashing it down in Manchester when this was on. Shame it kind of leaked that Capaldi had got the gig, it was hardly a surprise. Not that I really care about kids programmes.

Quiz shows always seem to benefit when against Doctor Who, for whatever reason. Solid for Tipping Point. Not good for Law and Order, though.

Bore and Order not really doing the business there.

TG revival now the weather has turned.