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The Ratings Thread (Part 51)
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Joe40
11-08-2013
Twitter - Official Banker
Please stop speculating. Nothing special happens tomorrow. NOTHING. #dealornodeal

(Unless it's a double bluff, quite obvious what this means).
Glenn A
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by James J:
“The axing of the Sunday episode of Corrie was brought about by Simon Shaps, who said at the time: "We have always been the home of Saturday night entertainment and we want to broaden that out to make the whole weekend on ITV something to look forward to."

Well I'm sorry, they failed at that objective and Saturday has even been weakened by it. Gone were the days of a solid 7.30 Corrie 8.00 Heartbeat 9.00 Drama schedule, and instead Dancing on Ice abandoned a perfectly good Saturday slot and aired there for just a few weeks at the start of the year, then X Factor perked things up for one a hour a week at the end of the year.

I fail to see how Downton Abbey is so "perfect" for Sunday nights if Corrie is not? ”

I think Shaps, one of ITV's worst execs, probably wanted soaps to be a weekday thing, which they had been until 1997. However, viewers had become used to the Sunday soaps by 2008 and it has been said on here having a soap double bill on Sundays would guarantee ITV 7 million at least every Sunday. Yet ITV have no interest in reintroducing the soaps on Sunday and some of their Sunday LE like Catchphrase and Off Their Rockers has done well.
square_eyes
11-08-2013
I don't think ITV will show Deathly Hallows as XF lead-in. It needs a 3 hr slot, and it's a dark film so it isn't going to start at 5pm in August.

Besides there were no clips of the Hallows films in the Harry Potter Season trailer.

Hallows Prt 1 is likely later in the year in a post 7pm slot.
dirtybits
11-08-2013
when we have great summer sun and tv ratings are low at weekends if no matter what shows are screened low ratings seem the norm
maybe in wet summers of the past since 2006, puppet gameshow and love my country would be pulling in 4 million + even for a below par show.

maybe focus on a summer weekend season of family films in primetime and hold off new shows from end of june till sept. or screen family films up to 9pm before anything new as at least by then ratings up a bit on hot summer eve

know itv has rights to star wars and of course the mighty potter and bbc has indian jones and pirates films but what else would pass as a prime time summer film to pulling in better ratings than say the puppet gameshow and co and has 3 or more in a series of films?
James J
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Yet ITV have no interest in reintroducing the soaps on Sunday and some of their Sunday LE like Catchphrase and Off Their Rockers has done well.”

Catchphrase/OTR would have done even better with a Corrie lead-in/leading-in to Corrie.
Pizzatheaction
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Rowan Hedge:
“So its looking like it could become a regular thing for ED to outrate EE for at least part of the week if not most of it.

The damage has been done and its nigh on impossible that EE will challenge Corrie outside Christmas for top slot, if the EE déjà vu i.e car crash fails again then quite rightly questions have to be asked regarding obscene amounts on unspectacular dramatic failures to prop up a production bereft of fresh ideas.

Poor share for EE as well.”

As I've said before, E'dale has picked up some extra viewers recently, but they'll continue to drift back to The One Show over the next few weeks.
GeorgeS
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“As I've said before, E'dale has picked up some extra viewers recently, but they'll continue to drift back to The One Show over the next few weeks. ”

Boom tish! I love these comedy posts
Pizzatheaction
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“You're obsessed.”

He's not the only one. Remember Re-Minder and Wynne Evans?
James J
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“As I've said before, E'dale has picked up some extra viewers recently, but they'll continue to drift back to The One Show over the next few weeks. ”

I don't watch Emmerdale but I'm aware the Cameron killer storyline is set to keep going strong until a set of huge episodes in October for the birthday week.

As we move to the Autumn I don't see why viewers would taper off; if anything they will increase. Remember The X Factor launch always heralds the beginning of more people watching TV!
Fudd
11-08-2013
Does anyone have the ratings for the following shows, please?

History of the Eagles (Fri 9 August, 21.00 BBC Four)
Live Athletics (Sat 10 August, 11.15 BBC One)
Pizzatheaction
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“I think Paul o Grady or Graham Norton would do well on one of these shows or even someone new.”

Grady might struggle with something live and energetic because of his health history. Norton has tried and failed with Generation Fame and Totally Saturday.
Glenn A
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by James J:
“Catchphrase/OTR would have done even better with a Corrie lead-in/leading-in to Corrie.”

Possible, but ITV seem quite happy with their mixture of drama, reality and entertainment on Sundays and sometimes particularly in winter, an escapist show like Off Their Rockers would cheer people up more than a soap on the day before work. Also the autumn has three of ITV's biggest shows lined up for Sundays.
Belligerence
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I think it was arrogance on ITV's part, trying to make their mark, and fix something (poached from a rival) that wasn't broken. Same with Parkinson: he kvetched (after jumping ship) that his show was being pushed too late on BBC One, and when his ratings disappointed in core peak on ITV1, they put him in late night again! Incidentally, he had been due to be pushed later on BBC One after they won back the Premiership highlights.

As for MOTD's start time, it was probably easier for ITV1 to give the highlights a fixed slot at 22:30 (after three months of poor ratings at 19:00), as there was nothing of consequence that couldn't be booted out of the way for it. It might be different these days with X Factor finishing quite late sometimes (in recent times anyway). Timings will vary at the weekend, and I think viewers accept this. People know MOTD will start at some point in the 22:00 hour, after the news, and generally this is fine.”

It was arrogant on their part, but the football coverage needed shaking up, something the BBC weren't prepared to do (at the time). Tactics truck, the less said the better, but Pro Zone was innovative and having a representative of each club quarrel with one other on a Monday, on top of a quality journalist giving views -- what's there not to like?

MOTD is stale. The age of internet streams means if people want to see a match, they can instantly. So you have a sizeable audience watching the programme for its punditry -- can they spot something the average viewer hasn't? Of course, Sky's Goals on Sunday and MNF have an advantage because they are able to analyse and sleep on things, but surely MOTD2 can do the same? The Saturday action section is far too basic.

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“If it was to go out at 7pm, it would clash with Strictly though, wouldn't it?”

Of course. But so did Surprise, Surprise and it is pencilled in for the autumn again.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“However, tradition always wins out and viewers wanted MOTD back. Maybe, though, MOTD 2 was inspired by POM and a later development, The Championship, will have inspired Late Kick Off and TFLS, as lower league fans were complaining they were being ignored.”

But the Beeb have rested on its laurels for far too long. Hansen once upon a time provided thoughtful analysis on a consistent basis, now he has become a caricature of his former self, what with 'pace, grit, determination', et al. Shearer basically tries to paraphrase whatever Hansen says. Lawro is no better, but he was different than both of them so I am kinda sad that they have reduced his appearances.
square_eyes
11-08-2013
Any predictions for That Puppet Game Show repeat tonight at 11.05pm tonight on BBC One ?

Weird to see what is effectively a CBBC show being broadcast at 11.05pm. Bonkers scheduling.
Pizzatheaction
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Just read this piece in the Mirror. What a load of fuss about nothing. Unusual, yes. Fix? Certainly not.

I see the awful Kevin O'Sullivan puts his boot into the Beeb again...

Wouldn't even wipe my arse with that paper.”

The Mirror must be losing money hand over fist with it's dwindled circulation, just like the group's regional titles?

Take the discounted sales and the giveaway copies out of the Mirror's figure, and the picture is even bleaker.
NeilVW
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Any predictions for That Puppet Game Show repeat tonight at 11.05pm tonight on BBC One ?

Weird to see what is effectively a CBBC show being broadcast at 11.05pm. Bonkers scheduling.”

Agreed; that is a bit odd. Sunday afternoon would have seemed more logical. Maybe it's for Sunday-night drinkers returning from the pub?

The puppets are at number 6 on the iPlayer, above Thursday's EastEnders and Friday's Celebrity MasterChef.
Pizzatheaction
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Also Dad's Army looks low, are people getting bored of watching it on loop all year?”

It always dips for the black and white episodes.
Hassaan13
11-08-2013
Would it hurt to give TPGS a CBBC showing instead?
Joe40
11-08-2013
Twitter - Paddy Roberts
My game of deal or no deal is on TV tomorrow, can't wait to watch it back! What an experience! #DealOrNoDeal
Pizzatheaction
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“When you think how good BBC One used to be on Saturdays, even in summer, when the BBC tended to fall behind ITV, you still had Seaside Special and a decent action film to save the day. This summer must be one of their poorest ever on Saturdays.”

Not sure how good BBC1 ever was in on Saturday nights in summer. I have memories of only one proper programme on Saturday nights from April to the end of August, with the rest of the evening taken up with imported rubbish like Wonder Woman/McGyver/Dukes of Hazzard, old films, cartoons and News.
dan2008
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Rowan Hedge:
“No apology necessary, we all make mistakes and its good to see the production still has its champions here on DS considering the amount of negativity surrounding it.

If I came across as rude in the opening part of the post again apologies, I'd just started my break and was winding down after dealing with a rather angry patient.

”

That's very decent of you. No you were fine
dan2008
11-08-2013
Not surprised at the Puppet show. I watched 15mins of it and found it crap...put on Harry Potter and started to fall a sleep (no action what-so-ever) and can't see the fuss behind the films.

Went back to BBC1 and watched I Love My Country for the first time and quite enjoyed it.

Casualty I rarely watch but thought it was good last night so will tune in next week for the 2nd part. Mrs Browns Boys continues to rate well even though the episodes have been repeated a few times and GOLD seem to be showing the same eps as BBC1 at Present.
Rowan Hedge
11-08-2013
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“He's not the only one. Remember Re-Minder and Wynne Evans? ”

Off to research their posts to see what they said.
dirtybits
11-08-2013
random question,
what is the highest ratings a film has ever achived on primetime screening on bbc or itv ever?
what film was it?
GoshBagosh
11-08-2013
Anyone have an idea if The Mill is a one off for Channel 4? or could it get a second outing?
I think it's the best british drama this year. (yet to see The Fall, heard that is great too).
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