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The axing of the Sunday episode of Corrie was brought about by Simon Shaps, who said at the time: "We have always been the home of Saturday night entertainment and we want to broaden that out to make the whole weekend on ITV something to look forward to."
Well I'm sorry, they failed at that objective and Saturday has even been weakened by it. Gone were the days of a solid 7.30 Corrie 8.00 Heartbeat 9.00 Drama schedule, and instead Dancing on Ice abandoned a perfectly good Saturday slot and aired there for just a few weeks at the start of the year, then X Factor perked things up for one a hour a week at the end of the year. I fail to see how Downton Abbey is so "perfect" for Sunday nights if Corrie is not? ![]() Had Shaps not done it, I suspect Fincham would have in 2009 when he had to basically abandon pre-watershed drama. There's plenty of soap on TV and really no need for it to run 6 days a week. Now, in ITV's key period of the year, they have put together what is very much the broadcasters flagship schedule of X Factor at 8pm and then Downton at 9pm. Meanwhile, weekday schedules are stronger as well with the extra hour of soap. Quote:
I don't think ITV will show Deathly Hallows as XF lead-in. It needs a 3 hr slot, and it's a dark film so it isn't going to start at 5pm in August.
Besides there were no clips of the Hallows films in the Harry Potter Season trailer. Hallows Prt 1 is likely later in the year in a post 7pm slot. Assuming they don't do it now, it'll be well into December before they have a weekend slot for it. Given the ratings for the last one, I'm not sure it's that much of a priority - but it could work well as a lead-in and give them a very big night on the 31st. Then they'd still be able to repeat it later on. |
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I think it was arrogance on ITV's part, trying to make their mark, and fix something (poached from a rival) that wasn't broken. Same with Parkinson: he kvetched (after jumping ship) that his show was being pushed too late on BBC One, and when his ratings disappointed in core peak on ITV1, they put him in late night again! Incidentally, he had been due to be pushed later on BBC One after they won back the Premiership highlights.
As for MOTD's start time, it was probably easier for ITV1 to give the highlights a fixed slot at 22:30 (after three months of poor ratings at 19:00), as there was nothing of consequence that couldn't be booted out of the way for it. It might be different these days with X Factor finishing quite late sometimes (in recent times anyway). Timings will vary at the weekend, and I think viewers accept this. People know MOTD will start at some point in the 22:00 hour, after the news, and generally this is fine. As for the timings, when you pay £1.5m in rights per week, you have to put it at a time when the revenue will be sufficient to recover that cost plus production, plus hopefully make some profit. Not easy to do at close to midnight featuring some mid table dross - I've watched enough games at stadia to know how few highlights some of these games generate. |
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He's not the only one. Remember Re-Minder and Wynne Evans?
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Grady might struggle with something live and energetic because of his health history. Norton has tried and failed with Generation Fame and Totally Saturday.
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One of those guys was who I was on about last night Re EastEnders and Xmas.
I dunno...Paul could do it. He seemed ok doing an hour LIVE on ITV1 once a week. Norton I say give him another go. |
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Any predictions for That Puppet Game Show repeat tonight at 11.05pm tonight on BBC One ?
Weird to see what is effectively a CBBC show being broadcast at 11.05pm. Bonkers scheduling. I'm sure the BBC are only commissioning these type of shows now as they need something to fill the afternoon slots now the sport has dried up - TPGS will probablby be at 2pm by the end of the month. |
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I'm writing to Danny Cohen with an idea.
The puppets hosting I Love My Country : National Lottery Edition |
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The chase has flopped in the USA. Only 510,000 American households watched the gameshow. Bit of a blow to itv studios.
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Jeez this old hoary story again. You never seem to have issues with the BBC poaching other people's rights, staff or ideas
As for the timings, when you pay £1.5m in rights per week, you have to put it at a time when the revenue will be sufficient to recover that cost plus production, plus hopefully make some profit. Not easy to do at close to midnight featuring some mid table dross - I've watched enough games at stadia to know how few highlights some of these games generate. |
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The Chase not doing well in the US? They don't like the format it seems. We do though.
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The chase has flopped in the USA. Only 510,000 American households watched the gameshow. Bit of a blow to itv studios.
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I don't have a problem with poaching, just with poaching something and then fouling it up.
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The chase has flopped in the USA. Only 510,000 American households watched the gameshow. Bit of a blow to itv studios.
Worth pointing out they can see the show up to EIGHT times before the next one. |
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My game of deal or no deal is on TV tomorrow, can't wait to watch it back! What an experience! #DealOrNoDeal |
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The chase has flopped in the USA. Only 510,000 American households watched the gameshow. Bit of a blow to itv studios.
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Poor description of a flop there. ITV is the second major terrestrial channel in the UK. GSN is a digital channel similar to Challenge here. GSN isn't free to watch in America and you have to subscribe to one of cable/satellite networks the country offers.
Worth pointing out they can see the show up to EIGHT times before the next one. It airs weekly, and it's only been on once. Challenge would die for a rating of 510k.
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Poor description of a flop there. ITV is the second major terrestrial channel in the UK. GSN is a digital channel similar to Challenge here. GSN isn't free to watch in America and you have to subscribe to one of cable/satellite networks the country offers.
Worth pointing out they can see the show up to EIGHT times before the next one.
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How ironic, on the very day the BBC ballsed up the muppet show!
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Hardly poached though was it? Jim Henson's gang must take some of the blame, if blame is due. Its iPlayer success might suggest it is a sleeper hit.
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How ironic, on the very day the BBC ballsed up the muppet show!
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Irony? There's nothing ironic about That Puppet Game Show. BBC1 tried something (they weren't to know it wouldn't take off), it didn't work. How would you be reacting if it WAS a hit? Suicidal probably!
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I think as others have said if we'd seen the show take itself less seriously with some stronger writing and a bit of a break with the 4th wall that the Puppet Show could be a success.
Just needs a repackaging. Only time I like the US model of the pilot, viewer reaction, pulling it, working on it, re-releasing it. |
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Neither was the premiership. Highlights rotated between itv and BBC for years and years. And you secure them through a tender process.
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Calm down dear. It's only tv. And not very good tv.
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The chase has flopped in the USA. Only 510,000 American households watched the gameshow. Bit of a blow to itv studios.
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GSN’s New Series THE CHASE Delivers Ratings AND Cash Winnings on its August 6th Debut Series premiere garners double and triple digit growth in key demos for the time period THE CHASE inaugural episode at 9PM brought in 511,000 viewers and held 97% of P25-54 and 95% of W25-54 from its Minute To Win It lead-in. Versus the time period average YTD, the show was up double digits in total viewers (+55%), P18-49 (+87%), W18-49 (+95%) and triple digits among P25-54 (+116%) and W25-54 (+112%). A new episode of THE CHASE followed at 10PM and held 90% of its lead-in with 461,000 total viewers. Both airings outperformed the Tuesday 9-11PM time period average YTD in Total Viewers (+59%), P18-49 (+58%), W18-49 (+75%), P25-54 (+109%) and W25-54 (+98%). A new episode of Minute To Win It hosted by Apolo Anton Ohno anchored the evening at 8PM and hit season highs in total viewers (596,000) and W25-54. It's not exactly a big network although they are making a push with original content. So I'm not really sure what's good and what isn't. But based on the stats in the release (and the fact they want to draw attention to the numbers) I'm guessing it's not bad for them. |
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No, the BBC had them from the Premiership's inception in 1992-93 until the present day (and will have them until at least the end of the 2015-16 season), except for the disastrous ITV interregnum from 2001-02 to 2003-04 which we were just discussing.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/...-deals-170601/ Of course it was the BBC sky axis that helped remove FTA live league football from the air, but that's another story. |
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