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The Ratings Thread (Part 51)
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Jaycee Dove
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Are you highly flammable? ”

Not lately....

They are roaming the UK finding spots where mysteries and weird tales have happened, Bit like a cross between Strange But True? and Countryfile (hence Julia Bradbury's involvement I guess) mixed with an inland version of Coast via an OS map.

They were considering finding a location where someone has spontaneously combusted - a topic they knew I had researched and written about. Though it has the drawback of witnesses (who survived that is) being fairly rare.

Not really suitable for this show I would have thought - which is what I told a well known comedian when she asked for my help writing a sketch on the theme for a children's teatime TV show. I hope to goodness that never happened evn without my aid.
ronant
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Saturday Sportsday is just a simulcast of the News 24 sports bulletin, presumably so they can also simulcast the one o'clock bulletin, though I don't know why they've moved Football Focus from 12.15 to twelve in any case. Just looks a bit weird”

Can't believe I'm correcting Steve Williams about something , but Saturday Sportsday wasn't on the news channel. It was quite different - it had unique titles, was initially presented standing up in the BBC Sport centre office walking around, and was much more of a magazine show. It started off with a montage of highlights from the World Athletics, and had features on Triathlon and Paralympic sport. It wasn't your normal news channel sports bulletin, although it did have a bit of news.
Wozza20
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I thought you might have some recommendations for me”

In fairness, the high quality drama is all imported. But if you don't like imports, then it wouldn't be for you.

I watch a fair bit of factual entertainment stuff on there.

The Hotel Inspector
Born to Kill
Myra Hinley - untold story

I am looking forward to Wentworth Prison next week. I've seen the opening episode online, and it looks promising.
Oldnjaded
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I thought you might have some recommendations for me”

I thought the Irish drama 'Love/Hate' was excellent and can't wait for series 2, (which inexplicably won't be shown until some time next year).

'Under the Dome' starts this coming week and should be worth a watch. The book (by Stephen King) was excellent, (not that that is necessarily any reflection of how good the tv series will be).
jda135
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“If you remind me on Friday I'll have the consolidated ratings if that helps?”

Kind of needed the overnights. It doesn't matter if you don't have them. Thanks anyway.
NeilVW
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“If ronant is still around, do you have ratings for the following shows (I only ask as DS' ratings reports have been quite flimsy this week)

Kirstie Fill Your House for Free (C4, Tues 8pm)
Celebrity Masterchef (BBC1, Wed 8pm)
How Not to Get Old (C4, Wed 8pm)
24 Hours in A&E (C4, Wed 9pm)
The Dealership (C4, Thu 8pm)”

From Broadcast (inc +1):

Quote:
“24 Hours in A&E (C4) 9pm-10pm
2.1m (9.1%)


The medical drama [came second in the slot] with an audience just below the 2.2m (10.1%) series average.

From 8pm, Louise Redknapp-fronted beauty doc How Not To Get Old shed 400k viewers to register 1m (4.9%) in its second week.”

Glenn A
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“That Puppet Game Show is so bad that the Sunday Express manages an analytical (largely cutting) article about it today and succeeds on all FIVE occasions of wrongly calling it That Puppet Quiz Show. The title of the article by Clare Heal tells you all you need to know about its tone: - 'What a load of muppets'.

Though the philosophical analysis of whether we are meant to consider these 'characters' as puppets or muppets and hence treat them as real or not is on a par with the show itself.”

Jaycee, welcome back, I think TPGS is this year's Don't Scare The Hare. It's an interesting concept but the execution of the show is terrible.
H of De Vil
18-08-2013
If Harry Potter next week rates at a similar level to the other two, then ITV have done well to get through Summer with out any embarrasing flops along the way. Its seems this year is the turn of the BBC.

Its not often that ITV have the highest rating show of the night in Summer, albiet a popular film across primetime.
johnnymc
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“Great to see Top of the Lake get a boost for its finale, 1.19m (5.9%), highest since episode 2. It settled where I expected it to, just under a million, for most of the series, yes it would have done better on a weekday but not by much imo and as I've said before it would have only disappointed in a bigger slot, as it's just not the type of drama that pulls in a big audience.”

A shame that so many have missed out on one of the best pieces of television in many many years. This will no doubt repeat after the awards it receives. However I would have scheduled on BBC One in the autumn.
Dancc
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“If ronant is still around, do you have ratings for the following shows (I only ask as DS' ratings reports have been quite flimsy this week);

The Dealership (C4, Thu 8pm)”

The Dealership: 800,000 (3.9%) inc. +1
*series low
*series average: 936k (4.7%)
*slot average: 1.5m


Source: www.broadcast.co.uk
Dancc
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Sky have already established Sunday as theirs.

They wanted to do two things. Spoil BT's first EPL day and promote their new Saturday slot. And as they got 2m+ compared to the 400k that ESPN used to get, it was quite successful.”

Must have missed the bit where ESPN did a free simulcast on two other channels and then doctored the figures to make the headline number look bigger.

Sky's freebie was welcome but I didn't see anything I'd be prepared to pay for. Obviously they're blessed with some excellent content, e.g. the PL rights, but I wasn't that enamored by what they did around it. The standard of their football coverage was quite underwhelming really. Not sure what the audience gathered around the studio added, for example. And Jamie Redknapp is no better than the pundits you get on ITV, if anything less interesting.

It wasn't a great advert, but as you've outlined it wasn't intended to be. Just a very transparent BT spoiler.
Pizzatheaction
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Bit OT but we were discussing it the other day. There's an Observer piece from the producer who had to do the C5 highlights of the last day of the test whilst it was still in progress.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...ive-highlights”

Thanks, Derek. It shows the sheer folly of the 7-8pm window. They should be free to show the highlights in any slot they want.
Pizzatheaction
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The Sun has been obsessed with EastEnders virtually ever since it began...”

Obsessed with trying to damage it.
Pizzatheaction
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Cestrian18:
“It'd probably work, like him or Loathe him, he really does the business for channel 4 so he has a loyal following, and is currently doing Car Share for the BBC (which is there first major foray into using Iplayer as a launch platform) maybe they could persuade him to do a bit of Light Entertainment, he's always struck me as old school variety too (probably the only one left ) I'd have liked to have seen the Mrs Brown Celebrity one but that seems to have been canned?”

Yeah, but which version would turn up: the chirpy, entertaining one, or the pissed, surly one?
Pizzatheaction
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I wonder if Harry Potter being on ITV actually does it's live ratings a favour as with the films being so long people are happy to accept the breaks.


I think it might have been even later than that - mid to late October IIRC. The likes of Live and Kicking and Going Live usually returned late September too rather than at the beginning of the month.”

House Party was indeed mid to late October. Generation Game varied: sometimes September, sometimes mid to late October.
GeorgeS
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Obsessed with trying to damage it.”

Proof? Best way to "damage" it would be to ignore it and let it quietly die in oblivion.
Pizzatheaction
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Proof? Best way to "damage" it would be to ignore it and let it quietly die in oblivion.”

They had their screaming headline about Leslie Grantham's jail time on the weekend after the series started, then a year or so later there was the sickeningly homophobic "EastBenders" nonsense...
jda135
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“From Broadcast (inc +1):”

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The Dealership: 800,000 (3.9%) inc. +1
*series low
*series average: 936k (4.7%)
*slot average: 1.5m


Source: www.broadcast.co.uk”

Thanks guys. I was looking for them without +, but these are very much appreciated. Cheers.
Last Request
18-08-2013
Former Man United star Michael Owen has reportedly turned down the chance to appear in Strictly Come Dancing - and is now eyeing a spot in the I'm A Celebrity...jungle instead.

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/strictly-...for-im-a-celeb
Brekkie
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“The Sun did promote the soap in its early, less successful days and saw it as a younger, edgier alternative to Coronation St.
Yet who really is bothered about Home and Away now, which struggles to get a million viewers and should have been ditched when ITV dropped it? Quality drama from down under, the Daily Express's forced support for Channel 5 is comical.”

You're talking nonsense there Glenn - Home and Away has had times since it moved to C5 been well ahead of the British soaps in terms of delivering quality drama and up until C5 took Neighbours as well it generally rated well. It has undoubtedly gone off the boil in the last couple of years in all respects (quality and UK/Aus ratings) - be interesting to see if the return of Sally makes any difference.

Originally Posted by ronant:
“Can't believe I'm correcting Steve Williams about something , but Saturday Sportsday wasn't on the news channel. It was quite different - it had unique titles, was initially presented standing up in the BBC Sport centre office walking around, and was much more of a magazine show. It started off with a montage of highlights from the World Athletics, and had features on Triathlon and Paralympic sport. It wasn't your normal news channel sports bulletin, although it did have a bit of news.”

Seems a random addition though as it's not in the schedules next week due to F1 and not in the provisionals the following week. They should flesh it out to 30 minutes really and stick it at 11.30am instead of those stupid cookery shows.
H of De Vil
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Last Request:
“Former Man United star Michael Owen has reportedly turned down the chance to appear in Strictly Come Dancing - and is now eyeing a spot in the I'm A Celebrity...jungle instead.

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/strictly-...for-im-a-celeb”


I would think I'm Celeb its better pay than Strictly.
C14E
18-08-2013
I often find that when the tabloids are declaring a crisis or scandal on an ITV show (two in particular spring to mind) people think of that as the press being in their back pockets and promoting the show. But when they write something similar about a BBC show, it's an agenda or they're out to destroy something.
Dancc
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I would think I'm Celeb its better pay than Strictly.”

More likely the attire for Strictly isn't up his street.

Not sure Owen has the personality to add any value to I'm a Celeb though.

He's a name, but that only gets you so far.
ronant
18-08-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Seems a random addition though as it's not in the schedules next week due to F1 and not in the provisionals the following week. They should flesh it out to 30 minutes really and stick it at 11.30am instead of those stupid cookery shows.”

But I don't think it can show anything that BBC Sport doesn't have the rights to. There's also the issue that Football Focus has everything footy related covered. You're not left with a lot at all.
johnnymc
18-08-2013
As the autumn schedules are about to begin what do you think the strengths and weaknesses are in television. Disregard the channel politics for a moment and whats missing from primetime? What looks new and promising?What is making you switch off because its too boring...what would you do to improve ratings and primetime ideally?
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