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Itv are going to trick the BBC into thinking they're showing doc martin on Mondays so bbc1 end up showing poor rated factual on that night. But mark my words, Itvs Call the midwife/Mad men ripoff will be shown on Mondays this autumn. This project is way too big and important to Itv for them to dump on a Wednesday or Thursday. While with doc martin, they know its its last or penultimate series so a slightly smaller audience of 7m on Wednesday than the 8m it would get on monday won't worry them.
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SCORE - I've seen the production shots and publicity stills of Breathless. It is VERY Mad Men esque in style and obviously being pitched to a very upmarket audience. If they dont make it soapy like Downton, it will rate average or more like Selfridge. If they have lots of soap esque storylines which is quite simple to follow for an elderly audience, it could do well.
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Heavy downpour here - think ratings for tonight will be slightly up compared to previous Saturdays.
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But then what if Doc Martin affected and knocked down to 7million on Wednesday from the 9million on Monday, and if Breathless then flops on the Monday, that would be no good too them. I still think Doc Martin will be on the Monday.
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New Tricks v Long Lost Family would have been complementary though, no? Drama v factual entertainment, maximising the choice on offer by providing two high quality pieces from different genres. No obvious reason why the crossover would be significant.
When autumn/winter comes around the two channels will think nothing of pitching two new dramas against eachother in that slot. But established drama v established factual is suddenly a no no? Just an a random example, New Tricks is going to have a similar audience to Antiques Roadshow than it is to Channel 4 drama Top Boy. I've never seen why two dramas cant coexist but two different genre shows will always be complimentary. Quote:
Yeah, Breathless and Whitechapel are both for the Autumn, although I think Pizza mentioned that Whitechapel is starting in August. My theory is that Whitechapel will go Sundays & Mondays for 3 weeks (they're 2 part stories) with Breathless on Wednesdays. I think Midsomer may have a couple of episodes for the Autumn, although they've got The Guilty, Vera and possibly Bletchley Circle to fit in this Autumn too so it's going to be quite a squeeze.
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Solid 8million more like
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SCORE - I've seen the production shots and publicity stills of Breathless. It is VERY Mad Men esque in style and obviously being pitched to a very upmarket audience. If they dont make it soapy like Downton, it will rate average or more like Selfridge. If they have lots of soap esque storylines which is quite simple to follow for an elderly audience, it could do well.
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Last series of Doc Martin in the overnights (2011) (exc/inc +1):
12/09: 8.43m (32.4%) / 8.73m (34.1%) 19/09: 8.81m (35.3%) / 9.08m (36.9%) 26/09: 8.55m (34.5%) / 8.78m (35.8%) 03/10: 8.52m (34.2%) / 8.78m (35.7%) 10/10: 8.54m (34.8%) / 8.80m (36.3%) 17/10: 8.86m (35.2%) / 9.14m (36.8%) 24/10: 8.67m (34.2%) / 8.97m (35.8%) 31/10: 8.69m (34.1%) / 8.95m (35.5%) |
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Looking through the schedule for tonight, I can see low ratings for the two main channels. ITV's schedule in particular is dire with a double helping of YBF and struggling YFSF.
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Heavy downpour here - think ratings for tonight will be slightly up compared to previous Saturdays.
Depending on how widespread it is, figures could be a little better than has been the norm recently on Saturday nights. |
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19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.05m (37.3%), +1: 240k (1.3%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 6.88m (39.7%), +1: 201k (1.0%) 20:30 - Coronation Street: 6.29m (32.5%), +1: 205k (1.0%) 21:00 - Doc Martin (r): 3.16m (15.6%) 21:00 - 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown: 1.63m (8.1%) |
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Looking through the schedule for tonight, I can see low ratings for the two main channels. ITV's schedule in particular is dire with a double helping of YBF and struggling YFSF.
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ITV being poor should be good for the miner channels such as BBC4 tonight.
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There's nothing to say that two shows in different genres won't have a similar audience to two shows in the same genre.
Just an a random example, New Tricks is going to have a similar audience to Antiques Roadshow than it is to Channel 4 drama Top Boy. I've never seen why two dramas cant coexist but two different genre shows will always be complimentary. It's not impossible the two programmes could share a significant crossover, but to me unlikely. Of course there is a more detailed kind of access where you can see precisely how many people who watched a given programme also watched something else, so that must be useful for those better connected than us. Obviously no additional tools are needed to conclude that ITV won't pose any kind of threat on the Tuesday. But as SamuelW has sagely identified, that makes that night more suited to newer unproven dramas than something established. Even if I reluctantly agree that Monday 9pm was perhaps not the right slot at this time of year given it's one of a very small number of slots that ITV has been consistently winning this summer, I still don't feel Tuesday is the right night. And if you disagree with me that's fine, but it's my opinion and I'm perfectly entitled to express it without being shot down. |
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ITV being poor should be good for the miner channels such as BBC4 tonight.
"That bird off Emmerdale and Nadia Sawalha are on All Star Family Fortunes. I think I'll watch John Sergeant on Tracks of Empire instead."
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What an impressive share for Emmerdale. Well
deserved, best soap at the moment. |
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What an impressive share for Emmerdale. Well
deserved, best soap at the moment. At one time the only chance ED had of beating EE was if they clashed, and even then they didn't always win. Now ED is getting a higher rating with increasingly regularity. FOUR episodes of Emmerdale have beaten EastEnders this week. |
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And at the same time awful share for EastEnders.
At one time the only chance ED had of beating EE was if they clashed, and even then they didn't always win. Now ED is getting a higher rating with increasingly regularity. FOUR episodes of Emmerdale have beaten EastEnders this week. |
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And at the same time awful share for EastEnders.
At one time the only chance ED had of beating EE was if they clashed, and even then they didn't always win. Now ED is getting a higher rating with increasingly regularity. FOUR episodes of Emmerdale have beaten EastEnders this week. |
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And that's with this crazy tapechecking (or lack thereof) situation, so Emmerdale's performance can be upgraded slightly on the figures we've got.
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What an impressive share for Emmerdale. Well
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Yesterday's would be down slightly tape-checked because you would assume Corrie inflates the last 5 minutes a bit, but Thursday's and Tuesday's up significantly.
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I didn't say that. In fact, that was partly my point. No one case is the same.
It's not impossible the two programmes could share a significant crossover, but to me unlikely. Of course there is a more detailed kind of access where you can see precisely how many people who watched a given programme also watched something else, so that must be useful for those better connected than us. Obviously no additional tools are needed to conclude that ITV won't pose any kind of threat on the Tuesday. But as SamuelW has sagely identified, that makes that night more suited to newer unproven dramas than something established. Even if I reluctantly agree that Monday 9pm was perhaps not the right slot at this time of year given it's one of a very small number of slots that ITV has been consistently winning this summer, I still don't feel Tuesday is the right night. Quote:
And if you disagree with me that's fine, but it's my opinion and I'm perfectly entitled to express it without being shot down.
Dan, I tried to clear the air the other day. None of my replies to your posts are personal or aim to shoot you down. I just disagree with you.
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The second Corrie would increase as well because the 8:30 episodes usually start maybe a minute early and end five minutes earlier. The 7:30 episodes generally fill more of the slot.
Wonder how the Opening Ceremony repeat will do on BBC Three. Hope and think it will average over a million. |
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Weather is awful here too in the Midlands. Frequent thunder and lightning accompanied by bursts of heavy squally rain. Most unpleasant conditions.
Depending on how widespread it is, figures could be a little better than has been the norm recently on Saturday nights. Should imagine figures will be up, but it's not like it's cooled down, it's still really hot... |
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