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The Ratings Thread (Part 51)
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NeilVW
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Some other sports ratings:

Sport averages: F1 highlights 3.64m/24%; Diving 748k/8.2%; Euro 2013 final 889k/8.3%; RL Chall. Cup 898k/5.1%; Anniversary Games 775k/5.6%.

Also...

Family Guy had its second biggest @bbcthree audience ever last Sunday with 1.94m, second only to 1.96m, achieved on 20th May 2012.”

Do you have the women's Euro final highlights on Three from 7pm please ronant? I know it's less than 541k, my guess is 370k.

I think FG could crack 2m consolidated for its finale in the depths of December (it's running a couple of months later this season).
GoshBagosh
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“748k (3.2%) for Wall-E on BBC Three from 8.30pm. Fifth screening on Three; it's been on BBC One three times also, including its premiere on NYD 2011. It's on again on Wednesday night on Three.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park beat it (if you include +1) with 801k (3.9%) on ITV2 from 6.35pm.”

I watched The Lost World last night.... my first time ever seeing it


Wall.E Still doing the business despite being shown countless times
ronant
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Do you have the women's Euro final highlights on Three from 7pm please ronant? I know it's less than 541k, my guess is 370k.”

Not quite! Just 48k/0.3% for that one. But the live showing did well earlier in the day.
NeilVW
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Not quite! Just 48k/0.3% for that one. But the live showing did well earlier in the day.”

Blinkin' eck, that's atrocious!
andrewskatie143
29-07-2013
WOW- has newman been sacked or has she decided to leave?
I would have thought they would have waited until early next yr/spring to decide- supposedly she and the writers have planned a big autumn/winter with many story lines (something kinda missing nowadays in eastenders)- i.e. mitchell family focus, return of a lot characters esp. ronnie's return, big exits (michael, jack etc). I thought the bbc would have waited until they saw how eastenders did over the coming months. Anyway, it does show that the bbc has been actively engaged and thinking about the state of eastenders for a long while (something I thought they won't interested in).
Glenn A
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Clips of BBC's new Saturday night show 'That Puppet Game Show' which is starting in 2 weeks: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...ht-series.html

This could become the surprise hit of the summer. Nothing else like it around and could appeal massively to kids and families.”

Children love puppets and this is quite daring for peak time. Remember Sooty ran for 44 years and Andy Pandy, actually a repeat for most of its career, had 26 years. I think the curiosity and the junior vote should give this about 4 million.
ronant
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Blinkin' eck, that's atrocious!”

BBC Three last night:
19.00 Women's Euro 2013 48k (0.3%)
20.00 The Best Sport Film Ever! 94k (0.4%)
20.30 Wall-E 748k (3.2%)
22.00 Family Guy 1.30m (6.8%)
22.25 Family Guy 1.06m (6.7%)
22.45 Badults 510k (3.9%)
23.15 American Dad! ...
23.40 American Dad! 620k (8.4%)
00.00 Live at the Electric 316k (6.2%)
00.30 Bad Education 254k (6.9%)
01.00 Bad Education 263k (9.4%)
01.30 Cuckoo 240k (11.2%).
wizzywick
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Children love puppets and this is quite daring for peak time. Remember Sooty ran for 44 years and Andy Pandy, actually a repeat for most of its career, had 26 years. I think the curiosity and the junior vote should give this about 4 million.”

I think "That Puppet Game Show" looks fab! Totally different. A bit like The Muppet Show for the 21st century. I hope it's successful.
hyperstarsponge
29-07-2013
Amusing that American Dad repeats got higher ratings then there own rubbish comedy.
Hassaan13
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“22.45 Badults 510k (3.9%)”

Is that correct? It's higher than both of the first two showings.
ronant
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Is that correct? It's higher than both of the first two showings.”

That is correct. The power of being in a Family Guy, American Dad! sandwich.
cylon6
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by andrewskatie143:
“WOW- has newman been sacked or has she decided to leave?
I would have thought they would have waited until early next yr/spring to decide- supposedly she and the writers have planned a big autumn/winter with many story lines (something kinda missing nowadays in eastenders)- i.e. mitchell family focus, return of a lot characters esp. ronnie's return, big exits (michael, jack etc). I thought the bbc would have waited until they saw how eastenders did over the coming months. Anyway, it does show that the bbc has been actively engaged and thinking about the state of eastenders for a long while (something I thought they won't interested in).”

This press release looks to me like she was pushed. Why bring in a previous producer? It's because you think a programme is in trouble.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...ving-soap.html
nick202
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“This press release looks to me like she was pushed. Why bring in a previous producer? It's because you think a programme is in trouble.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...ving-soap.html”

To be brutally honest, I think she's done well to last so long
ronant
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I agree with you about the name, I assumed they would have changed that from the original translated version, but I don't agree with much else. No show that has Frank Skinner on it can be "very worthy" and the shows you cite are completely different, one was a quiz, one was a stand-up show (with vox-pops, but that was just a concept to differentiate it from umpteen other stand-up shows) and one was an interactive thing. And this is something different again.

I said here the other day that the trailer looks like it might divide people because it seems a bit brash but most of the criticism will probably come from people who slag off Saturday night LE for being Saturday night LE. But we'll see.”

I'm looking forward to it too. It's a shame David Walliams couldn't host it, but Gabby Logan is a safe pair of hands, and Frank Skinner and Micky Flanagan should be good as team captains. The guests they've got on seem pretty decent too, an eclectic bunch - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love..._(UK_TV_series)

I've seen clips of the Dutch version and it looks a lot of fun. It's been sold to 25 countries so it's certainly been successful. There's an article from the Independent about it here - http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...y-8709615.html

That Puppet Game Show starts 10th August and is seven episodes, whilst I Love My Country is 8 episodes. So both should finish on September 21st. Then it'll be time for Strictly and Atlantis.
Jaycee Dove
29-07-2013
Fascinating to watch that trailer for the pilot linked earlier of the US version of 'Les Revenants'.

Watch that and the trailers Channel 4 showed for 'The Returned' and you can see the differences between US TV and European TV in an instant.

The US version hits you immediately with the premise and has cops and doctors spelling out what is going on just to assure that you do not need to think through ambiguous plotting. The French version is all atmosphere, subtlety, great location shooting (every scene shot at twilight on purpose to create a mood) (US TV producers would throw a wobbly at the very idea!).

That said, the US pilot was intriguing and entertaining and if I had never seen 'The Returned' I would be curious enough to watch what looks like an original and promising concept.

So it does its job capturing the market for US TV who would be even less likely to watch anything in French than a UK audience would.

Plus it seems like 'Resurrection' will use the broad theme of 'Les Revenants' only meaning it is a show that even those who have been lucky enough to give the French version a chance will see something totally different. If it survives - that is - as for a main US channel it will have to carefully balance 'zombie of the week' storylines vs an ongoing arc to develop any desire to stick around and fathom out what is going on.

Will be fascinating to see which tack the UK version follows. More French then American I suspect. But this might also depend on the channel being aimed towards. Does look in good writing hands, though. So a hopeful start.

Fascinating though to have such an interesting premise developing as three separate drama series at the same time - all presumably watchable in the UK.

'Les Revenants' series 2 is unlikely to be out before either of these new shows are on air.
jda135
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“2.46m excluding +1 for The Mill on Channel 4. You see how drama on the channel can do well when it's not constantly shoved on at 10pm and stripped across the week?”

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Wowzer. That's a terrific rating. Was this the one they advertised on ITV during the soaps?

All credit to C4 they're quickly getting their act together now. The whole week has been a big improvement on the previous week. The Mill in particular looks to be a much needed big hit and that could bode extremely well for Southcliffe which launches straight after next week.”

Amazing numbers for The Mill last night. Great to see a drama (or any programme for that matter) finally doing well on Channel 4. I hope it stays strong next week. Will catch up myself on 4od soon.

As for the overall week, it was pretty much up and down. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday down compared with last week, whilst Thursday was marginally up and Saturday and Sunday rocketed thanks to X-Men and The Mill. Still though, I think it may boil down to daytime numbers. Even if the weekly share for the week just gone is 5% (excluding +1), the four weekly shares for July will average 4.38%. The last time it hit 5% (excl. +1) was for w/e 7th of April.

I think that C4 might be hit a bit this week with the return of Celebrity Masterchef and New Tricks. However, next Saturday night looks great for film geeks with X-Men and Kick Ass getting a back-to-back showing. Should do very well.

Originally Posted by ronant:
“Some other sports ratings:

Sport averages: F1 highlights 3.64m/24%; Diving 748k/8.2%; Euro 2013 final 889k/8.3%; RL Chall. Cup 898k/5.1%; Anniversary Games 775k/5.6%.

Also...

Family Guy had its second biggest @bbcthree audience ever last Sunday with 1.94m, second only to 1.96m, achieved on 20th May 2012.”

Disappointing for the Anniversary Games considering how well they did on the Beeb on Saturday. Impressive for Euro 2013 final and the Challenge Cup. F1 Highlights roughly what I expected.
Dancc
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Big Brother continued with 1.38m (6.0%) at 9pm (230k/1.4%).

A superb +1 figure for BB, bringing last night to 1.61m including +1. 2nd highest Sunday rating of the series.”

LOL. The faux concern was a tad premature then. I was expecting ratings to fall back a bit following the departure of one of this series' biggest characters, but no sign of it just yet.

Originally Posted by Jim_S:
“just shows the morons that live in this country when Big Brother which should have been sent out to die by now is getting higher than something like The Returned which has been brilliant for it's first season

if it wasn't in French, it would have doubled the audience easily but people aren't cultured enough here and would rather watch trash on Ch5”

It's moronic in my view to feel that way about people who watch an entertainment show. BB is a show about real people forming relationships and sharing a very unique experience. Being interested in that stuff does not make you uncultured, that's an absurd thing to say.

Drama is fantastic escapism and is rightly the most consistent rater on telly but there's room for some reality TV in most people's viewing schedules as well. Labelling BB viewers this that or the other is just silly and makes you look bad. BB's appeal is abundantly clear and the audience is still fairly broad.

Originally Posted by i4u:
“Surely it's no different to some people greeting, launch night 2 with 'OMG best retention ever', ignoring launch night 1 was down 25% on the previous year.”

I beg your pardon. I did not ignore it at all. Nobody did, some were positively revelling in it. I faced the music straight away by breaking the news and making it very clear how poor a start it was. But it's baloney to suggest that it made the subsequent retention irrelevant, a complete nonsense even. Whilst it was reasonable to expect a lower dropoff than normal given the circumstances, nobody could hand on heart say they honestly thought it would pull in a near identical audience on night two. Nobody. Not even you. So why pretend? It was always infinitely more important where it settled down at than where it launched, and so for it to be now up YoY despite that very bad beginning, is clearly good news for the show.

Originally Posted by i4u:
“You seem to have forgotten there was a little thing called the Olympics this time last year. ”

Well last night's show was up 220k on the equivalent episode last year (which aired on July 22) and the Olympics hadn't even started by then. So that particular YoY comparison is perfectly valid.

Originally Posted by i4u:
“The ratings for BB 2013 are not exceptional it's extremely tiresome for each 0.01 increase to be greeted as if it's a significant moment in TV history.”

Nobody is saying they are absolutely exceptional. Although CBB's ratings at times are for the channel it is on IMO. But 1.4m-1.8m a night for the main version which is what it's been consistently pulling in these past few weeks minus the usual dip on Saturdays is great stuff.

Originally Posted by SSL2010:
“Dancc is most guilty of it”

What a rotten thing to say. I contribute more to this thread than most through roundups, scheduling info, C5/UKTV/multichannel analysis, etc. I won't be spoken down to by people who either post one liners that mean nothing or put others down. That's not what this thread is about.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Video of EastEnders' £1million explosive car crash stunt to be shown in the Autumn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_m-DK0s4Y

Pictures: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...-pictures.html”

Not really exciting me. I think one-off stunts on soaps are a bit boring actually. They need something with longer term appeal. For instance, Hollyoaks did well recently with a serial killer storyline. And there's plenty of deadwood on EE that nobody would miss.
Mike Teevee
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I dunno what the other teacher sitcoms are, Chalk? Which was sixteen years ago. There's Bad Education on BBC3, which was a hit, and I wonder why they've got two school-set sitcoms running across the Beeb, but presumably it'll be different enough. Haven't heard enough of it to decide on its success one way or the other but the August debut means nothing, when they interviewed Dan McGolpin the BBC1 scheduler in Word a year or two ago he said the difference between summer and autumn is pretty negligable.”

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that Robbie might be referring to Bonjour La Class

Failing that there was a Lenny Henry drama set in a comprehensive (not that it was meant to be funny)

Nine-Nine
29-07-2013
Big Brother officials including +1 show that the highlights shows have now outrated the launch (well, some of them) So happy, its such a great series that has taken the show back to its roots;

See here: the show picked up 2.10m on Monday, 2.11m on Tuesday, and 2.08m on Sunday!
GoshBagosh
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
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'Les Revenants' series 2 is unlikely to be out before either of these new shows are on air.
”

Resurrection on ABC is a scheduled for midseason so looking at past trends it could air as late as early April..

It looks like a very weak imitation in my opinion and will likely be canned after the first season...If it winds up on Sundays at 10 which is really where I see it going, its doomed (GCB, Red Widow, 666 Park Ave, Pan Am all recently occupied that slot and all one season and done).
Dancc
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“Big Brother officials including +1 show that the highlights shows have now outrated the launch (well, some of them) So happy, its such a great series that has taken the show back to its roots;

See here: the show picked up 2.10m on Monday, 2.11m on Tuesday, and 2.08m on Sunday! ”

Uh oh. Inconvenient truth alert. Don't worry, I'll stick up for you when the bullies come out to play.

Very consistent set of officials there. And Bit On The Side-
H of De Vil
29-07-2013
Fantastic officials for LLF 5.98million (inc+1 6.23million) super rating for it, I imagine thats it highest ever?
cylon6
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Video of EastEnders' £1million explosive car crash stunt to be shown in the Autumn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_m-DK0s4Y

Pictures: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...-pictures.html”

That cost £1m?

EastEnders needs a lot of work. The event episodes don't get event ratings. It's wallpaper. BBC bosses should have stepped in sooner.
Glenn A
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I think "That Puppet Game Show" looks fab! Totally different. A bit like The Muppet Show for the 21st century. I hope it's successful.”

The Muppet Show, an American format bought in by Lew Grade in 1976 and made in Britain, was enormous in the late seventies, pulling in 16 million viewers. Also as it had adult guests and the humour could be appreciated by all age groups this explained its success.
Dancc
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“Amazing numbers for The Mill last night. Great to see a drama (or any programme for that matter) finally doing well on Channel 4. I hope it stays strong next week. Will catch up myself on 4od soon.”

I completely agree. Well done Channel 4! Oh how nice it is to be able to say something positive for a change.

Originally Posted by jda135:
“As for the overall week, it was pretty much up and down.”

The share seemed more stable through the week than it has been. It's an ongoing process but they're starting to get a few shows together capable of doing 2m+ that can now anchor some key nights where they had been underperforming previously. Thursday is still a bit of an issue and has been for some time, but at least Dates is now done and dusted.

Originally Posted by jda135:
“I think that C4 might be hit a bit this week with the return of Celebrity Masterchef and New Tricks. However, next Saturday night looks great for film geeks with X-Men and Kick Ass getting a back-to-back showing. Should do very well.”

Yeah, very strong night in prospect there as Kick Ass 2 is due out shortly so the timing is once again strong. Shame it's showing as late as 10pm though. I would have shown X-Men at 7pm and Kick-Ass at 9pm.
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