Originally Posted by ronant:
“Birth at 7.55pm, just in time for a big BBC1 peak
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“Birth at 7.55pm, just in time for a big BBC1 peak
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Careful, you don't want to sound like SamuelW.
The Ratings Thread (Part 51)
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Drama launches strongly; Dave Ja Vu takes the hit
No top 10 available but UKTV's Drama reached 3.2m individuals in its first week on air, watching an average of 8 minutes each. Audience share came in at a very respectable 0.6%. This compares favourably with the first week of ITV3 which launched in a less crowded Freeview landscape back in November 2004 with an average 1.1% share.
It outrated pay stablemate Gold, FTA stablemate Really and other established FTA entertainment channels from rival networks including 5* and Challenge.
To facilitate the launch of Drama, UKTV brought to an end the 24 hour version of Dave Ja Vu on Freeview. This saw the timeshift channel's share of the audience fall back significantly from 0.3% in the previous week to just 0.1%, with reach also falling sharply from 4.31m to 1.49m.
Source: BARB.
www.barb.co.uk
No top 10 available but UKTV's Drama reached 3.2m individuals in its first week on air, watching an average of 8 minutes each. Audience share came in at a very respectable 0.6%. This compares favourably with the first week of ITV3 which launched in a less crowded Freeview landscape back in November 2004 with an average 1.1% share.
It outrated pay stablemate Gold, FTA stablemate Really and other established FTA entertainment channels from rival networks including 5* and Challenge.
To facilitate the launch of Drama, UKTV brought to an end the 24 hour version of Dave Ja Vu on Freeview. This saw the timeshift channel's share of the audience fall back significantly from 0.3% in the previous week to just 0.1%, with reach also falling sharply from 4.31m to 1.49m.
Source: BARB.
www.barb.co.uk
Underwhelming for the 9pm dramas. When Top Gear is still over 4m on BBC Two at 8pm, the dramas should be doing better.
BBC, please stop repeating Celebrity Mastermind on BBC One. It was as dull as ditchwater the first time.
BBC, please stop repeating Celebrity Mastermind on BBC One. It was as dull as ditchwater the first time.
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Sky Sports 2
10:00 - Live Cricket: The Ashes: 807k (7.8%)
* peak: 1.5m (9.6%)”
“Sky Sports 2
10:00 - Live Cricket: The Ashes: 807k (7.8%)
* peak: 1.5m (9.6%)”
Dismal figure.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“
No top 10 available but UKTV's Drama reached 3.2m individuals in its first week on air, watching an average of 8 minutes each.”
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No top 10 available but UKTV's Drama reached 3.2m individuals in its first week on air, watching an average of 8 minutes each.”
Surely the average figure on the BARB site is of all viewers, whether they watched a channel or not?
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Careful, you don't want to sound like SamuelW.”
“Careful, you don't want to sound like SamuelW.
”
Too late for that.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Dismal figure.”
“Dismal figure.”
The match was won on Saturday. I'm sure they didn't declare earlier, just to make sure the game went into Sunday to save refunding all the ticket money.
Sky Sports Ashes being the third most watched multichannel (free or pay) after ITV2 and ITV3 shows the slot figures don't tell the real story.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Surely the average figure on the BARB site is of all viewers, whether they watched a channel or not?”
“Surely the average figure on the BARB site is of all viewers, whether they watched a channel or not?”
Yes, you're right. Worth clarifying.
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Channel 4 has acquired the rights to Showtimes next big series Masters of Sex....
This is quite a surprise! I had it pegged down for Sky Atlantic...
It will be paired with Homeland season 3 in the US, I wonder if Channel 4 will do the same?
Great acquisition for a series that is getting alot of early buzz”
“Channel 4 has acquired the rights to Showtimes next big series Masters of Sex....
This is quite a surprise! I had it pegged down for Sky Atlantic...
It will be paired with Homeland season 3 in the US, I wonder if Channel 4 will do the same?
Great acquisition for a series that is getting alot of early buzz”
There is quite a bit of hype around it, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will settle with viewers. I think it might go on Wednesdays at 10pm.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“w/e July 14
Channel 4: 4.3%
Channel 4+1: 0.8%
Channel 5: 4.7%
Channel 5+1: 0.4%
It's officially a tie with +1s included. C4 reached 2 million extra viewers but C5 viewers watched on average for 5 minutes longer.”
“w/e July 14
Channel 4: 4.3%
Channel 4+1: 0.8%
Channel 5: 4.7%
Channel 5+1: 0.4%
It's officially a tie with +1s included. C4 reached 2 million extra viewers but C5 viewers watched on average for 5 minutes longer.”
In terms of daily reach, C5 was ahead of C4 by the slimmest of margins too (9000 viewers). Once again, +1 comes to Channel 4's rescue.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Doubt it. In the US they're shown ad free and the episodes are all different lengths but will fit into a one hour slot.
On C4 the running time changes as they put in three or four ad breaks depending on the episode length, so it would mean the second show having a different start time each week.”
“Doubt it. In the US they're shown ad free and the episodes are all different lengths but will fit into a one hour slot.
On C4 the running time changes as they put in three or four ad breaks depending on the episode length, so it would mean the second show having a different start time each week.”
Never heard of Masters of Sex but by the title I guess it's a 10pm show. C4 need it more on weeknights than following Homeland, but they managed to pretty much have Homeland billed as a 10pm finish every week regardless of ads and varying episode length, so it wouldn't be too much of an issue.
The biggest concern for C4 is people will see it in the schedule and just assume it's another cheap documentary rather than a high quality US drama.
Shame we don't have 24 hour news channels they can stick this baby nonsense on
Someone should invent those
Someone should invent those
Originally Posted by jda135:
“In terms of daily reach, C5 was ahead of C4 by the slimmest of margins too (9000 viewers). Once again, +1 comes to Channel 4's rescue.”
“In terms of daily reach, C5 was ahead of C4 by the slimmest of margins too (9000 viewers). Once again, +1 comes to Channel 4's rescue.
”
History probably won't be made next week either. From memory they had a much stronger start to last week than the previous. And although Sunday was a lot closer and C5 was streets ahead on Thursday and Friday, I don't think it will be enough when all is consolidated.
They may just get through this spell without C5 nosing ahead and causing embarrassment as although CBB will be arriving on the scene shortly, next month C4 have a few shows lined up which should bring some respite in the form of Gordon Ramsay's new vehicle Hotel Hell, a new series of Alan Carr Chatty Man and some big movie titles including Kick-Ass. On the downside, they also have a new Hilary Devey programme showing: Hilary's Dole Office.
I think though, this real closeness that has developed between the two channels will be maintained for a bit. I don't really see a scenario whereby C4 surge back in front and return to business as usual, nor do I see C5 collapsing completely as soon as CBB comes to an end.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Never heard of Masters of Sex but by the title I guess it's a 10pm show. C4 need it more on weeknights than following Homeland, but they managed to pretty much have Homeland billed as a 10pm finish every week regardless of ads and varying episode length, so it wouldn't be too much of an issue.
The biggest concern for C4 is people will see it in the schedule and just assume it's another cheap documentary rather than a high quality US drama.”
“Never heard of Masters of Sex but by the title I guess it's a 10pm show. C4 need it more on weeknights than following Homeland, but they managed to pretty much have Homeland billed as a 10pm finish every week regardless of ads and varying episode length, so it wouldn't be too much of an issue.
The biggest concern for C4 is people will see it in the schedule and just assume it's another cheap documentary rather than a high quality US drama.”
Very true. Perhaps it will pick up the C4 'freak show' devotees? There's enough of them. Five minute peak at start of show and then they'll all switch off!!
Originally Posted by Ambassador:
“Shame we don't have 24 hour news channels they can stick this baby nonsense on
Someone should invent those”
“Shame we don't have 24 hour news channels they can stick this baby nonsense on
Someone should invent those”
I share your displeasure at the current media circus that has ensued around something I consider to be fairly unremarkable unless it's affecting me directly.
No tv news for me today. I can find the stories I am interested in online. Unfortunately I know I'm in the minority and news ratings will go through the roof today!!
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Very true. Perhaps it will pick up the C4 'freak show' devotees? There's enough of them. Five minute peak at start of show and then they'll all switch off!!”
“Very true. Perhaps it will pick up the C4 'freak show' devotees? There's enough of them. Five minute peak at start of show and then they'll all switch off!!”
It'll be advertised as a big drama...
In June 2013, the series was honored, along with five others, with the Critics' Choice Television Award for Most Exciting New Series
I can see it getting quite a big audience for the premiere....then it depends on how good the show is if viewers will stick around.
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“I can see it getting quite a big audience for the premiere....then it depends on how good the show is if viewers will stick around.”
“I can see it getting quite a big audience for the premiere....then it depends on how good the show is if viewers will stick around.”
I'll give it a go. I enjoy many of the other Showtime programmes like Dexter, Nurse Jackie, House of Lies and The Borgias.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“I'll give it a go. I enjoy many of the other Showtime programmes like Dexter, Nurse Jackie, House of Lies and The Borgias.”
“I'll give it a go. I enjoy many of the other Showtime programmes like Dexter, Nurse Jackie, House of Lies and The Borgias.”
I also like all of those shows, and i'll add Episodes, Web Therapy and Ray Donavan to the list
Some worrying but interesting analysis performed by Attentional regarding Channel 4 drama series Run is worth sharing here I think. Regular ratings thread readers will know this underperformed majorly for the station when stripped nightly last week. But it turns out not only did it underperform in terms of total audience, it also failed to attract the right kind of viewer, skewing old and downmarket. In other words, it had no redeeming features whatsoever:
http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch/
Quote:
“The dark and gritty subject matter actually attracted an older audience profile than the timeslot average for the channel, which seems a little counter-intuitive as grittier dramas can often be expected to attract younger audiences (particularly crime dramas). However, more than one quarter of Run viewers were over 65.
The audience was 57% female, and featured a higher-than-benchmark proportion of viewers in the C2 and DE socio-economic groups.”
“The dark and gritty subject matter actually attracted an older audience profile than the timeslot average for the channel, which seems a little counter-intuitive as grittier dramas can often be expected to attract younger audiences (particularly crime dramas). However, more than one quarter of Run viewers were over 65.
The audience was 57% female, and featured a higher-than-benchmark proportion of viewers in the C2 and DE socio-economic groups.”
http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch/
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“History probably won't be made next week either. From memory they had a much stronger start to last week than the previous. And although Sunday was a lot closer and C5 was streets ahead on Thursday and Friday, I don't think it will be enough when all is consolidated.
They may just get through this spell without C5 nosing ahead and causing embarrassment as although CBB will be arriving on the scene shortly, next month C4 have a few shows lined up which should bring some respite in the form of Gordon Ramsay's new vehicle Hotel Hell, a new series of Alan Carr Chatty Man and some big movie titles including Kick-Ass. On the downside, they also have a new Hilary Devey programme showing: Hilary's Dole Office.
I think though, this real closeness that has developed between the two channels will be maintained for a bit. I don't really see a scenario whereby C4 surge back in front and return to business as usual, nor do I see C5 collapsing completely as soon as CBB comes to an end.”
“History probably won't be made next week either. From memory they had a much stronger start to last week than the previous. And although Sunday was a lot closer and C5 was streets ahead on Thursday and Friday, I don't think it will be enough when all is consolidated.
They may just get through this spell without C5 nosing ahead and causing embarrassment as although CBB will be arriving on the scene shortly, next month C4 have a few shows lined up which should bring some respite in the form of Gordon Ramsay's new vehicle Hotel Hell, a new series of Alan Carr Chatty Man and some big movie titles including Kick-Ass. On the downside, they also have a new Hilary Devey programme showing: Hilary's Dole Office.
I think though, this real closeness that has developed between the two channels will be maintained for a bit. I don't really see a scenario whereby C4 surge back in front and return to business as usual, nor do I see C5 collapsing completely as soon as CBB comes to an end.”
I'm enjoying the close competition between Channel 4 and 5 at the moment. It keeps things exciting and hopefully it'll make Channel 4 buck up their ideas a bit more.
More than one quarter of Run's viewers were over 65?
that surprises me greatly! I think Don't Blame Facebook will attract a younger demo tonight
No surprise at all - the way it was scheduled and promoted around Olivia Colman kind of explains that. It was very good, but unlike many of the gritty C4 dramas of the past, it probably wasn't something that would have been too out of place on BBC1.
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“I'm enjoying the close competition between Channel 4 and 5 at the moment. It keeps things exciting and hopefully it'll make Channel 4 buck up their ideas a bit more.”
“I'm enjoying the close competition between Channel 4 and 5 at the moment. It keeps things exciting and hopefully it'll make Channel 4 buck up their ideas a bit more.”
Absolutely. A lot of viewers don't like what C5 have to offer, or have preconceived ideas about what that is. Equally there are others like me who feel mostly neglected by C4. If the current closeness is maintained it can only be good for viewers as both will be working that bit harder to outdo the other.
It's exciting to me to see the natural order of things disrupted. I didn't think we'd ever see that on a consistent basis. If ratings were as predictable as say, Saturday nights in Q4, all of the time, I probably wouldn't bother following ratings. I love the genuine unpredictability we have at the moment, it's fascinating.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“No surprise at all - the way it was scheduled and promoted around Olivia Colman kind of explains that. It was very good, but unlike many of the gritty C4 dramas of the past, it probably wasn't something that would have been too out of place on BBC1.”
“No surprise at all - the way it was scheduled and promoted around Olivia Colman kind of explains that. It was very good, but unlike many of the gritty C4 dramas of the past, it probably wasn't something that would have been too out of place on BBC1.”
And next up it's a gritty period drama, scheduled on Sundays at 8. Where did they get that idea?
And really a period drama on Sundays at 8 is as far away from what C4 should be doing as it's possible to get, even if it is, according to TV critic Paul Whitelaw "unadulterated misery, wall to wall despair." Just what everyone wants on summer evenings C4, well done!
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Some worrying but interesting analysis performed by Attentional regarding Channel 4 drama series Run is worth sharing here I think. Regular ratings thread readers will know this underperformed majorly for the station when stripped nightly last week. But it turns out not only did it underperform in terms of total audience, it also failed to attract the right kind of viewer, skewing old and downmarket. In other words, it had no redeeming features whatsoever:
http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch/”
“Some worrying but interesting analysis performed by Attentional regarding Channel 4 drama series Run is worth sharing here I think. Regular ratings thread readers will know this underperformed majorly for the station when stripped nightly last week. But it turns out not only did it underperform in terms of total audience, it also failed to attract the right kind of viewer, skewing old and downmarket. In other words, it had no redeeming features whatsoever:
http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch/”
Hmm well the first 2 episodes didn't do to badly with 1.50 and 1.30 million respectively...
and as far as saying it had no redeeming features whatsoever, the consensus seems to be that it was the best original drama Channel 4 has had to offer for quite a long time
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“History probably won't be made next week either. From memory they had a much stronger start to last week than the previous. And although Sunday was a lot closer and C5 was streets ahead on Thursday and Friday, I don't think it will be enough when all is consolidated.
They may just get through this spell without C5 nosing ahead and causing embarrassment as although CBB will be arriving on the scene shortly, next month C4 have a few shows lined up which should bring some respite in the form of Gordon Ramsay's new vehicle Hotel Hell, a new series of Alan Carr Chatty Man and some big movie titles including Kick-Ass. On the downside, they also have a new Hilary Devey programme showing: Hilary's Dole Office.
I think though, this real closeness that has developed between the two channels will be maintained for a bit. I don't really see a scenario whereby C4 surge back in front and return to business as usual, nor do I see C5 collapsing completely as soon as CBB comes to an end.”
“History probably won't be made next week either. From memory they had a much stronger start to last week than the previous. And although Sunday was a lot closer and C5 was streets ahead on Thursday and Friday, I don't think it will be enough when all is consolidated.
They may just get through this spell without C5 nosing ahead and causing embarrassment as although CBB will be arriving on the scene shortly, next month C4 have a few shows lined up which should bring some respite in the form of Gordon Ramsay's new vehicle Hotel Hell, a new series of Alan Carr Chatty Man and some big movie titles including Kick-Ass. On the downside, they also have a new Hilary Devey programme showing: Hilary's Dole Office.
I think though, this real closeness that has developed between the two channels will be maintained for a bit. I don't really see a scenario whereby C4 surge back in front and return to business as usual, nor do I see C5 collapsing completely as soon as CBB comes to an end.”
I think C4 will certainly be ahead of C5 next week, unless C4's daytime completely collapsed. Undercover Boss, Diana's Dresses and 24 Hours in A&E all did well in the 9pm slot, whilst the first two parts of Run got decent shares.
Hotel Hell, as far as I am aware, is a repeat of the American version. No doubt many will compare it to The Hotel Inspector, but it looks good. I'll be watching. As for Chatty Man, it fluctuates between 700k and 1.5m so it's pretty dodgy to guess and Kick Ass might do well, although Scott Pilgrim vs the World rated poorly. Oh yeah and 'I Heart One Direction' (a 'Cutting Edge' doc) is on soon. Awful
September looks promising though. New Grand Designs, Educating Yorkshire, new 8 Out of 10 Cats, a new Jamie Oliver show, Location Location Location, Top Boy.
In regards to Jay Hunt's 'Meet the Controller' session at the Edinburgh Festival, it's being chaired by Boyd Hilton. I fear Jay Hunt may just have got off lightly there.
TV really getting crap now
There is no more Chase
Pointless is really old repeats
Now One Show not on to
So watching London Tonight and ITV News on +1
There is no more Chase
Pointless is really old repeats
Now One Show not on to
So watching London Tonight and ITV News on +1
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