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Old 01-08-2013, 17:40
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Apologies for the break, but I'm back now and will continue with the overnights for ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5.

ITV

06:00: Daybreak - 501k (15.4%)
08:30: Lorraine - 929k (16.2%)
09:25: The Jeremy Kyle Show - 1.04m (17.2%)
10:30: This Morning - 866k (14.7%)
11:25: ITV News - 961k (17.3%)
11:30: This Morning - 961k (17.3%)
12:30: Tipping Point - 763k (10.7%)
13:30: ITV News and Weather - 738k (9.8%)
14:00: The Hungry Sailors - 672k (9.5%)
15:00: Secret Dealers - 859k (22.8%)
16:00: Midsomer Murders - 695k (7.7%)
17:00: Take on the Twisters - 1.29m (10.6%)
18:00: ITV News London - 2.92m (17.9%)
18:30: ITV News and Weather - 3m (17.1%)
19:00: Emmerdale - 6.47m (34.8%)
19:30: Coronation Street - 7.34m (36.5%)
20:00: You Saw Them Here First - 4.53m (21.3%)
21:00: Neighbourhood Force - 2.26m (10.4%)
22:00: ITV News at Ten and Weather - 1.71m (9.7%)
22:35: Hunting the Doorstop Conmen - 1.03m (8.9%)
23:40: The Dales - 275k (3.9%)
24:05: Jackpot247 - 69k (2%)
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Old 01-08-2013, 17:51
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Apologies for the break, but I'm back now and will continue with the overnights for ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5.

ITV

06:00: Daybreak - 501k (15.4%)
08:30: Lorraine - 929k (16.2%)
09:25: The Jeremy Kyle Show - 1.04m (17.2%)
10:30: This Morning - 866k (14.7%)
11:25: ITV News - 961k (17.3%)
11:30: This Morning - 961k (17.3%)
12:30: Tipping Point - 763k (10.7%)
13:30: ITV News and Weather - 738k (9.8%)
14:00: The Hungry Sailors - 672k (9.5%)
15:00: Secret Dealers - 859k (22.8%)
16:00: Midsomer Murders - 695k (7.7%)
17:00: Take on the Twisters - 1.29m (10.6%)
18:00: ITV News London - 2.92m (17.9%)
18:30: ITV News and Weather - 3m (17.1%)
19:00: Emmerdale - 6.47m (34.8%)
19:30: Coronation Street - 7.34m (36.5%)
20:00: You Saw Them Here First - 4.53m (21.3%)
21:00: Neighbourhood Force - 2.26m (10.4%)
22:00: ITV News at Ten and Weather - 1.71m (9.7%)
22:35: Hunting the Doorstop Conmen - 1.03m (8.9%)
23:40: The Dales - 275k (3.9%)
24:05: Jackpot247 - 69k (2%)
A solid performance between 1800 and 2100. You Saw Them Here First deserves mention for doing well, although viewers always like to say stars when they were almost unknown.
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Old 01-08-2013, 17:55
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Metro have deleted their Doctor Who story about the Sunday announcement. I smell an embargo for the moment.

About a month ago I got an e-mail from BBC Audience offering tickets for an "entertainment pilot show", about reuniting people from classic TV shows to reminisce. Sunday happens to be for Doctor Who, where audience members were encouraged to dress as your favourite character. I'm wondering now if this was a way of getting in an audience for the announcement.
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Old 01-08-2013, 17:56
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Channel 4

06:10: The Hoobs - 21k (1.3%)
06:35: The Hoobs - 21k (0.9%)
07:00: Hugh's 3 Good Things - 34k (1.2%)
07:10: According to Jim - Unavailable
07:35: Will and Grace - 125k (3%)
08:00: Everybody Loves Raymond - 179k (3.6%)
08:35: Everybody Loves Raymond - 185k (3.3%)
09:05: Fraiser - 273k (4.6%)
09:35: Fraiser - 251k (4.1%)
10:05: The Big Bang Theory - 191k (3.1%)
10:35: The Big Bang Theory - 169k (2.8%)
11:00: Undercover Boss USA - 120K (2.2%)
12:00: Channel 4 News Summary - 105k (2%)
12:05: A Place in the Sun - 169k (2.6%)
13:05: Kirstie's Handmade Treasures - 164k (2.2%)
13:30: Channel 4 Racing - 406k (5.6%)
16:00: Deal or No Deal - 863k (9.7%)
17:00: Come Dine with Me - 861k (7.1%)
18:00: The Simpsons - 1.12m (6.9%)
18:30: Hollyoaks - 850k (4.9%)
19:00: Channel 4 News - 441k (2.3%)
19:55: Ramadan Diaries - 446k (2.2%)
20:00: Extreme Diet Ward: A Food Hospital Special - 855k (4%)
21:00: 24 Hours in A&E - 1.85m (8.5%)
22:00: The Last Leg - 733k (4.4%)
22:50: Alex Brooker: My Perfect Body - 314k (3.1%)
23:55: Random Acts - 120k (1.8%)
24:00: Undercover Boss - 184k (4%)
25:00: Shameless USA - 77k (2.9%)
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:03
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Sorry guys, the second I was about to start the Channel 5 report, my free trial ran out.
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:04
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Channel 4

21:00: 24 Hours in A&E - 1.85m (8.5%)
22:00: The Last Leg - 733k (4.4%)
Great rating and share for 24 Hours in A&E as usual.... added a hefty amount on +1 aswell.

Shame The Last Leg didn't do a little better.... but it still rated higher then Love/Hate which has been advertised to death
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:29
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It's a sad state of affairs when EastEnders can't beat Emmerdale and needs help from The One Show. Improve the storylines. That's the help EastEnders needs.
Or both!

If only they hadn't given Kirkwood the job in 2010.
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:35
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At least most of Love Hate's viewers in week 1 came back in week 2. Worth persevering with it in that slot I think just in case. Obviously if it falls much below 600k then think again.
Isn't it only a four-part series?
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:42
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Isn't it only a four-part series?
Think they're showing series 1 and 2 back to back so its ten episodes.

While I applaud Channel 5 for broadening their drama slate, Love/Hate isnt clicking with viewers, they've got a good lineup of new dramas like Wentworth, The Bible and Under the Dome, not sure where each will go though.
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:46
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Interesting that Channel 4 seems to have added 300,000 viewers between 4 and 5.30. All I can put it down to is weak competition from ITV and when Tipping Point and The Chase return, Channel 4 will fall back again.
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Old 01-08-2013, 18:57
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Think they're showing series 1 and 2 back to back so its ten episodes.

While I applaud Channel 5 for broadening their drama slate, Love/Hate isnt clicking with viewers, they've got a good lineup of new dramas like Wentworth, The Bible and Under the Dome, not sure where each will go though.
Still lots to look forward to on C5 this summer and autumn.

Under the Dome should do well. The Bible may surprise. At this stage I'm not expecting anything great from Wentworth, but you never know.
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Old 01-08-2013, 19:01
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Think they're showing series 1 and 2 back to back so its ten episodes.
Ah, thanks, Jonwo.
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Old 01-08-2013, 19:05
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Strong start to BT Sport I felt. Used their massive studio to good effect to show off where the different sports will be presented from and introduce the various presenters and pundits.

Still no news on Virgin Media availability though, which you'd assume will hurt viewing figures for this free evening and going forwards.
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Old 01-08-2013, 19:41
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Those were the days as Bill Cotton used to say ''The BBC owns Saturday nights''
Yes, but of course ITV were streets ahead at points in the eighties and nineties, up until 1981 ITV barely bothered with Saturday nights (apart from Brucie's Big Night, natch) and then Game For A Laugh came along and helped turned it round. And certainly in the late eighties and early nineties, ITV's light entertainment consistently looked far more impressive than the Beeb's half-arsed affairs. The problems for ITV came when the big shows like Blind Date, Gladiators and Barrymore all started declining and they couldn't find enough to replace them.

I wouldn't call The Voice a hit, The Apprentice & Masterchef aren't exactly entertainment. Let's Dance is slowly fading away, it's not strong enough to compete with SNT.
That first sentence has already been proven to be clearly wrong, suggesting Off Their Rockers is a hit and The Voice isn't is one of the silliest arguments imaginable, because as well as the ratings The Voice also had ten trillion times the column inches.

Let's Dance is fading away about as much as The Cube is. And this very week a key ITV LE brand in Family Fortunes (a hit, apparently) was beaten by a brand new BBC1 light entertainment programme. Clearly people trust and like BBC light entertainment enough to check out a new format and happily abandon Family Fortunes. How often did Your Face Sounds Familiar win its slot? Didn't even beat repeats.

And as for questioning whether The Apprentice and Masterchef are entertainment, they're certainly entertaining and ITV would kill for their audience, demographics and viewer engagement. They've certainly tried their own versions of them. In the ITV fiftieth anniversary programmes with Melvyn Bragg, he tried to argue that ITV may not have much comedy but had shows like I'm A Celebrity which were funny and so achieved the same thing. Not sure it's entirely a convincing argument but you can apply the same thing to The Apprentice.

And no, Daley is not a superstar. He's never "won" anything. Mo Farrah however, now he's a superstar. Ask him about his training!
Which you can do on the umpteen chat shows he goes on, having famously been given his celebration during an appearance on A League Of Their Own, before the Olympics.

So that's the reason England didn't win the 1998 World Cup - Rio Ferdinand presented Disney Time just before it.
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Old 01-08-2013, 19:55
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US late-night ratings
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...6-2013/195184/


and Fall premieres
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-dates/195183/
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:00
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Any idea why Cowboy Traders has been dropped on C5?
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:05
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Up and down set of ratings really. Nothing really to shout about except 24 Hours in A&E.

Great rating and share for 24 Hours in A&E as usual.... added a hefty amount on +1 aswell.

Shame The Last Leg didn't do a little better.... but it still rated higher then Love/Hate which has been advertised to death
24 Hours did well, but not as good as it has done this series. The Last Leg down on the series earlier in the year.

Still lots to look forward to on C5 this summer and autumn.

Under the Dome should do well. The Bible may surprise. At this stage I'm not expecting anything great from Wentworth, but you never know.
I think Under the Dome may just do very well for Channel 5. Probably will start as strong as FlashForward and The Mentalist. I'm looking forward to it. As for The Bible and Wentworth, I think that
may be down to the promotion.

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At the minute I'm wading my way through the Ofcom document about the media with loads of different stats on TV/Radio/Internet/VoD and so on. Here are a few stats;

Advertising market down 2% year-on-year compared with 2011. This is probably down to the Olympics/Jubilee which mainly took place on the BBC. ITV's ad revenues were down 2.3% (so broadly flat), Channel 4 (main channel only) was down 9.2% and Channel 5 was down 7.5%.

Channel 4 also saw a large drop for share of the advertising market down to 15% from 16.2% in 2011 (a difference of 7.4%). ITV pretty much stayed the same (34.2% in 2011 and 34.1% in 2012). Channel 5 saw a 6.4% drop with its share down to 7.3% from 7.8%.

Despite the 'stat' that Channel 4 spent more than ever before last year, the main channel saw a decrease in spend of 0.8% from £496m to £492m. ITV saw a marginal increase, and Channel 5 saw a large uplift from £178m to £192m (an increase of 7.3%).

One interesting note from the document was this;

Channel 4’s share in 2012 is just 2% higher than in 1983, the year after it launched in November 1982. Channel 5 went on air in March 1997 and its share is also 2% higher in 2012 than in its launch year and the same as in its full reporting year of 1998

Not great for both, but especially damaging for C4 which had a share of 10% or more for 13 years (1993-2006).

Also noting Jay Hunt's unsuccessful period as BBC One Controller, here are the audience share numbers for her 3 years (2008-2010); 21.8%, 20.9%, 20.8%. Why did Channel 4 ever hire her?
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:24
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I think it will be a close run thing, but ITV will pursue TVUK wherever it is. The BBC missed a trick by not establishing The Voice in Jan-Feb when it first appeared as quarter one had been crying out for something bold for several years. The scheduling war will simply be SNT v TV rather than BGT v TV now though.
Samuel will have to find another excuse for it's ratings next year then.

And should it make series 4, there is the added complication of FA Cup matches in Q1, though that's probably more of a benefit than a problem.
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:47
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Any idea why Cowboy Traders has been dropped on C5?
My EPG was still showing CT, something to do with a caravan broker.

Nothing to do with Top Gear then.
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:55
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I wonder if Nigel Havers Corrie stint boosted WDYTYA ratings with more interst in the actor
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:56
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In pictures: BT Sport launch:

http://tellyspy.com/tv/bt-sport-launch-show-in-pictures
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:57
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Metro have deleted their Doctor Who story about the Sunday announcement. I smell an embargo for the moment.

About a month ago I got an e-mail from BBC Audience offering tickets for an "entertainment pilot show", about reuniting people from classic TV shows to reminisce. Sunday happens to be for Doctor Who, where audience members were encouraged to dress as your favourite character. I'm wondering now if this was a way of getting in an audience for the announcement.
This backs up your embargo comment - I'm guessing it's an announcement about a show in which there'll be announcement

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-...ement-imminent
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:12
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X Factor will either be on the 24th or the 31st, and my money is on the 24th. It'll probably be an 8pm launch that night though as they'll have Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince before it.
Fool Britannia is back on August 24th, so that will be the low lead in which XFactor will be getting.

A great chance for That Puppet Game Show to rate well when it is shown against Fool britannia.
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:13
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Samuel will have to find another excuse for it's ratings next year then.

And should it make series 4, there is the added complication of FA Cup matches in Q1, though that's probably more of a benefit than a problem.
Am sorry but people make excuses for all shows for example people are using the weather excuse for YFSF. So not really fair singling Samual out.
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:13
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Samuel will be delighted to see Swansea doing so well tonight. I'm sure if they had lost he'd have been overjoyed.
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