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Old 21-07-2013, 14:22
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Before they started getting rubbish and boring, the writers for The Simpsons would often pop a joke at the expense of Fox, the network that aired the show. An episode on Channel 4 today had Krusty reference Luke Perry being a star on Fox, and then looking disgusted. I know there were a handful of jokes like this over the years, but most of them escape me.

Did the writers ever get into hot water over some of these jokes? I know they were probably all in jest, but not many of them showed Fox in a good light. I can only assume if Graham Norton started making jokes about the BBC, they wouldn't be best pleased.
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Old 21-07-2013, 15:23
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Institutionally, the BBC is probably a great deal more thin-skinned and self-important than Fox or any American network. On NBC's Tonight Show, Jay Leno makes jokes about NBC all the time, and practically rejoices on his show when NBC has a ratings disaster or any kind of bad publicity. If anything like the BBC's Jimmy Savile scandal had happened at NBC, Jay Leno would be blasting NBC over it every single show, right on NBC's air waves.
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Old 21-07-2013, 15:26
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Good point. I can recall Craig Ferguson making jokes about CBS on The Late Late Show as well.
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Old 21-07-2013, 17:26
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Before they started getting rubbish and boring, the writers for The Simpsons would often pop a joke at the expense of Fox, the network that aired the show. An episode on Channel 4 today had Krusty reference Luke Perry being a star on Fox, and then looking disgusted. I know there were a handful of jokes like this over the years, but most of them escape me.

Did the writers ever get into hot water over some of these jokes? I know they were probably all in jest, but not many of them showed Fox in a good light. I can only assume if Graham Norton started making jokes about the BBC, they wouldn't be best pleased.
The BBC constantly allows jokes about itself on air - the almost unwatchable debate about Jimmy Savile and Jim'll Fix It on 'Have I Got News....' for example. On 'The Bubble' David Mitchell commented at length about the ludicrous-ness of the BBC not allowing it's real news clips to go out alongside fabricated ones, meaning the show had to source clips from Sky and ITN! Toby Foster on Radio Sheffield had plenty to say about Sachs-gate, Exec pay offs etc.

As for The Simpsons, they bash Fox - especially Fox News - at least once a series.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeOEz8b_b6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa1G3Y7ev4Y
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Old 21-07-2013, 17:47
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As far back as The Goons, the BBC were fair game for jokes at their expense. Round The Horn, ISIHAC, ISIRTA, they've all been at it.
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Old 21-07-2013, 17:55
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Family Guy does it as well. There was an episode where Lois became a newsreader on Fox News.

By the way, wrong forum, bassebuwa. This is the UK shows forum, and The Simpsons is American.
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Old 21-07-2013, 19:12
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I heard some time ago that Fox actually intended to file some sort of lawsuit...but subsequently realised it's their own channel's programme
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Old 21-07-2013, 19:14
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Apparently Fox execs weren't keen, but Rupert Murdoch personally liked the show and got it on air, I doubt anybody wanted to interfere with the big boss's will...
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Old 21-07-2013, 19:27
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Apparently Fox execs weren't keen, but Rupert Murdoch personally liked the show and got it on air, I doubt anybody wanted to interfere with the big boss's will...
And the great scene in "Behind the Laughter", when the Simpsons sign to Fox. When Murdoch does his signature, Homer spells it out for him "R - U ......"
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Old 21-07-2013, 21:22
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Because jokes aren't meant to be taken seriously.
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Old 21-07-2013, 21:28
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Simpsons family guy futurama all do or have done it.

Top gear has cracked jokes about the bbc aswell
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Old 21-07-2013, 21:48
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Victor Meldrew often made comments about the BBC he went to a show being made by them, the classic snooker phone in competition.

Lots of acts used to make comments about the BBC canteen.
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Old 21-07-2013, 22:29
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I suppose I seem to pick up on those jokes more than I do on stuff from this country.
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Old 21-07-2013, 22:38
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corporations sometimes don't mind jokes like this as it shows they're down with the kids..

ditto hollywood stars sending themselves up on things like extras
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Old 22-07-2013, 00:51
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I think they've been given a long leash, but I do recall Fox News taking issue with a parody years ago.
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Old 22-07-2013, 04:19
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I think they've been given a long leash, but I do recall Fox News taking issue with a parody years ago.
You are correct. They're not allowed anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blUTIUxh-Mk
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Old 22-07-2013, 06:06
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I remember reading an interview with Matt Groening where he was asked the same question - how do you get away with it. He said much of it came down to the fact it was a cartoon and so it escaped ( at least in its earlier days) the same kind of scrutiny. He said people ( and I think he used the opportunity to criticise fox again) didn't expect cartoons to discuss serious issues and so they were able for a long time to go on without censorship.
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Old 22-07-2013, 07:19
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Some shows made a great deal of postive PR by letting the production company, broadcaster or sponsor be the butt of jokes going back to radio in UK with Goons as noted above and in America with the Phil Harris Alice Faye show. When RCA Victor TV began to sponsor the the show the company was often the butt of the gags due to the running joke about the TV branch of the company backing a radio show.
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Old 22-07-2013, 08:30
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Because The Simpsons makes Fox an obscene amount of money, and doing anything to upset the people who make it too much would be a dangerous game.
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Old 22-07-2013, 09:30
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Family guy are much better at the fox jokes
Actually Family guy slag all the networks off. Especially NBC
But shows do it all the time, There were several jokes about FOX featured in a few episodes in The X Files.
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