Streaming on Youview

kitchen whisk · 22-07-2013, 11:44

Is there a technical reason why non-subscription Youview (not the BT or TalkTalk versions) does not support streaming services? Even the NowTV subscription doesn't including streaming on a Youview box (it does on all other supported devices).

Is this just the current commerical nature of the platform (not enough money in any content providers offering it unless the platform is bigger or more money to be made, or sky wants to encourage their own platform etc) or can these boxes simply not technically do it? Could it come in the future?

Catch up seems embedded well, but the absence of any streaming seems like a waste of a major feature of any internet connected service.

Apologies if this has been covered hundreds of times elsewhere. It's a bit confusing looking for youview threads, they're all over the place.

gomezz · 22-07-2013, 11:59

Which services are you looking for it to stream?

Clusterbombed · 22-07-2013, 12:08

There should be a dedicated Youview forum on DS, it's a pain looking in three or four different places for news.

It's not technically possible at the moment to stream, however that functionality is supposed to be implemented in a huge update at the end of this month/beginning of next month that is rumoured to see a lot of streaming services joining the platform. Although nobody knows what they are.

David Waine · 22-07-2013, 12:35

Not long now. Bated breath.

kingdave · 22-07-2013, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitchen whisk

Is there a technical reason why non-subscription Youview (not the BT or TalkTalk versions) does not support streaming services? Even the NowTV subscription doesn't including streaming on a Youview box (it does on all other supported devices).

Is this just the current commerical nature of the platform (not enough money in any content providers offering it unless the platform is bigger or more money to be made, or sky wants to encourage their own platform etc) or can these boxes simply not technically do it? Could it come in the future?

Catch up seems embedded well, but the absence of any streaming seems like a waste of a major feature of any internet connected service.

Apologies if this has been covered hundreds of times elsewhere. It's a bit confusing looking for youview threads, they're all over the place.

My understanding, which may be very wrong (VisionMan will probably be able to correct me), is that the TT box does support streaming services, but independent services like NowTV are unable to provide a streaming service because the BT box doesn't support it.

Something to do with Multicasting and the BT box should be getting an update very soon to allow it (ready for the BT Sport launch) which may allow other independent channels to come on to the platform.

I'm hoping for more HD services than there is space for in the traditional broadcast airwaves will arrive streamed, hopefully stuff like Film 4 HD or Dave HD

wwwebber · 22-07-2013, 14:14

My BT youview box is already receiving 5 streamed / iptv channels

lj2010 · 22-07-2013, 14:29

Which ones are you getting if i may ask ?

promo-only · 22-07-2013, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdave

My understanding, which may be very wrong (VisionMan will probably be able to correct me), is that the TT box does support streaming services, but independent services like NowTV are unable to provide a streaming service because the BT box doesn't support it.

Something to do with Multicasting and the BT box should be getting an update very soon to allow it (ready for the BT Sport launch) which may allow other independent channels to come on to the platform.

I'm hoping for more HD services than there is space for in the traditional broadcast airwaves will arrive streamed, hopefully stuff like Film 4 HD or Dave HD

They're not currently capable but they'll be getting firmware updates soon to fix the problem. TalkTalk took the route of making the extra channels available from launch through a 'player' - you just can't record them etc. BT chose not to offer them at all. They'll shortly be allocated EPG slots on both though, so they'll be fully functional. When the update arrives, third party apps and services will be able to launch.

Additional HD streaming services will be entirely dependent on what carriage deals BT and TalkTalk have agreed with each channel, however if a channel or service wanted to launch their own independent app with independent payment for all YouView users, it's a different story.

ukp · 22-07-2013, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clusterbombed

It's not technically possible at the moment to stream, however that functionality is supposed to be implemented in a huge update at the end of this month/beginning of next month that is rumoured to see a lot of streaming services joining the platform. Although nobody knows what they are.

A beta firmware was released a couple of weeks ago that provides internet tv channel support but so far there are no channels to make use of it. If past release patterns hold true, I would expect the 'official' release of the firmware in the next week or so.

wwwebber · 22-07-2013, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by lj2010

Which ones are you getting if i may ask ?

Btsport 1
Btsport 2
Btsport 1hd
Btsport 2hd
Espn

I guess id probably get the essentials plus pack too if was a subscriber.

The Sack · 22-07-2013, 16:38

to be fair you are getting a place holder and not yet a streaming channel

The Sack · 22-07-2013, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clusterbombed

There should be a dedicated Youview forum on DS, it's a pain looking in three or four different places for news.

i 100% agree with you.

kitchen whisk · 22-07-2013, 17:27

Thank you all for your helpful replies. I'm looking forward to streaming arriving on Youview and seeing how many providers offer a service.

+1 for support of a youview forum somewhere on DS.

Roland_Smith · 22-07-2013, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by lj2010

Which ones are you getting if i may ask ?

I am getting :

407 Watch
408 Gold
409 Alibi
414 Comedy Central
416 TLC
417 Discovery
418 Animal Planet
420 SyFy
421 Universal
422 E!
423 Fox
424 National Geographic
425 Nat Geo Wild
426 MTV
433 History
434 Crime & Investigation Network
507 BT Sport 1
508 BT Sport 2
509 ESPN
510 BT Sport 1 HD
511 BT Sport 2 HD
513 Eurosport
514 British Eurosport 2

clewsy · 22-07-2013, 18:17

Do you think the gaps in channel numbers means more could be coming to BT TV soon as well?

wwwebber · 22-07-2013, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sack

to be fair you are getting a place holder and not yet a streaming channel

They're streaming channels, as in I can watch them

promo-only · 22-07-2013, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland_Smith

I am getting :

407 Watch
408 Gold
409 Alibi
414 Comedy Central
416 TLC
417 Discovery
418 Animal Planet
420 SyFy
421 Universal
422 E!
423 Fox
424 National Geographic
425 Nat Geo Wild
426 MTV
433 History
434 Crime & Investigation Network
507 BT Sport 1
508 BT Sport 2
509 ESPN
510 BT Sport 1 HD
511 BT Sport 2 HD
513 Eurosport
514 British Eurosport 2

Is that through a black Vision box or a YouView box? I thought the extra channels started at 851 but I'm guessing you're on YouView?

iiyama17 · 22-07-2013, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland_Smith

I am getting :

407 Watch
408 Gold
409 Alibi
414 Comedy Central
416 TLC
417 Discovery
418 Animal Planet
420 SyFy
421 Universal
422 E!
423 Fox
424 National Geographic
425 Nat Geo Wild
426 MTV
433 History
434 Crime & Investigation Network
507 BT Sport 1
508 BT Sport 2
509 ESPN
510 BT Sport 1 HD
511 BT Sport 2 HD
513 Eurosport
514 British Eurosport 2

You are? How comes? Have you subscribed to the extra channels? So far I've just got the BT Sport ones plus ESPN and a test card.

Roland_Smith · 24-07-2013, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by promo-only

Is that through a black Vision box or a YouView box? I thought the extra channels started at 851 but I'm guessing you're on YouView?

It's a youview box

Roland_Smith · 24-07-2013, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by iiyama17

You are? How comes? Have you subscribed to the extra channels? So far I've just got the BT Sport ones plus ESPN and a test card.

We are beta testing the new channels, that's how we get them ATM

meaton · 24-07-2013, 14:14

How'd you get on the beta programme? They don't tend to advertise these very widely. :/

Roland_Smith · 24-07-2013, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaton

How'd you get on the beta programme? They don't tend to advertise these very widely. :/

will PM you the details

22-07-2013, 11:44	#1
kitchen whisk Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 205	Streaming on Youview Is there a technical reason why non-subscription Youview (not the BT or TalkTalk versions) does not support streaming services? Even the NowTV subscription doesn't including streaming on a Youview box (it does on all other supported devices). Is this just the current commerical nature of the platform (not enough money in any content providers offering it unless the platform is bigger or more money to be made, or sky wants to encourage their own platform etc) or can these boxes simply not technically do it? Could it come in the future? Catch up seems embedded well, but the absence of any streaming seems like a waste of a major feature of any internet connected service. Apologies if this has been covered hundreds of times elsewhere. It's a bit confusing looking for youview threads, they're all over the place.

22-07-2013, 11:59	#2
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Which services are you looking for it to stream?

22-07-2013, 12:08	#3
Clusterbombed Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 207	There should be a dedicated Youview forum on DS, it's a pain looking in three or four different places for news. It's not technically possible at the moment to stream, however that functionality is supposed to be implemented in a huge update at the end of this month/beginning of next month that is rumoured to see a lot of streaming services joining the platform. Although nobody knows what they are.

22-07-2013, 12:35	#4
David Waine Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: UK Posts: 2,270	Not long now. Bated breath.

22-07-2013, 13:04	#5
kingdave Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,314	Quote: Originally Posted by kitchen whisk Is there a technical reason why non-subscription Youview (not the BT or TalkTalk versions) does not support streaming services? Even the NowTV subscription doesn't including streaming on a Youview box (it does on all other supported devices). Is this just the current commerical nature of the platform (not enough money in any content providers offering it unless the platform is bigger or more money to be made, or sky wants to encourage their own platform etc) or can these boxes simply not technically do it? Could it come in the future? Catch up seems embedded well, but the absence of any streaming seems like a waste of a major feature of any internet connected service. Apologies if this has been covered hundreds of times elsewhere. It's a bit confusing looking for youview threads, they're all over the place. My understanding, which may be very wrong (VisionMan will probably be able to correct me), is that the TT box does support streaming services, but independent services like NowTV are unable to provide a streaming service because the BT box doesn't support it. Something to do with Multicasting and the BT box should be getting an update very soon to allow it (ready for the BT Sport launch) which may allow other independent channels to come on to the platform. I'm hoping for more HD services than there is space for in the traditional broadcast airwaves will arrive streamed, hopefully stuff like Film 4 HD or Dave HD

22-07-2013, 14:14	#6
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	My BT youview box is already receiving 5 streamed / iptv channels

22-07-2013, 14:29	#7
lj2010 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: East Kilbride Posts: 12	Which ones are you getting if i may ask ?

22-07-2013, 14:34	#8
promo-only Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,935	Quote: Originally Posted by kingdave My understanding, which may be very wrong (VisionMan will probably be able to correct me), is that the TT box does support streaming services, but independent services like NowTV are unable to provide a streaming service because the BT box doesn't support it. Something to do with Multicasting and the BT box should be getting an update very soon to allow it (ready for the BT Sport launch) which may allow other independent channels to come on to the platform. I'm hoping for more HD services than there is space for in the traditional broadcast airwaves will arrive streamed, hopefully stuff like Film 4 HD or Dave HD They're not currently capable but they'll be getting firmware updates soon to fix the problem. TalkTalk took the route of making the extra channels available from launch through a 'player' - you just can't record them etc. BT chose not to offer them at all. They'll shortly be allocated EPG slots on both though, so they'll be fully functional. When the update arrives, third party apps and services will be able to launch. Additional HD streaming services will be entirely dependent on what carriage deals BT and TalkTalk have agreed with each channel, however if a channel or service wanted to launch their own independent app with independent payment for all YouView users, it's a different story.

22-07-2013, 14:57	#9
ukp Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North East Posts: 322	Quote: Originally Posted by Clusterbombed It's not technically possible at the moment to stream, however that functionality is supposed to be implemented in a huge update at the end of this month/beginning of next month that is rumoured to see a lot of streaming services joining the platform. Although nobody knows what they are. A beta firmware was released a couple of weeks ago that provides internet tv channel support but so far there are no channels to make use of it. If past release patterns hold true, I would expect the 'official' release of the firmware in the next week or so.

22-07-2013, 15:35	#10
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by lj2010 Which ones are you getting if i may ask ? Btsport 1 Btsport 2 Btsport 1hd Btsport 2hd Espn I guess id probably get the essentials plus pack too if was a subscriber.

22-07-2013, 16:38	#11
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	to be fair you are getting a place holder and not yet a streaming channel

22-07-2013, 16:39	#12
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by Clusterbombed There should be a dedicated Youview forum on DS, it's a pain looking in three or four different places for news. i 100% agree with you.

22-07-2013, 17:27	#13
kitchen whisk Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 205	Thank you all for your helpful replies. I'm looking forward to streaming arriving on Youview and seeing how many providers offer a service. +1 for support of a youview forum somewhere on DS.

22-07-2013, 18:06	#14
Roland_Smith Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24	Quote: Originally Posted by lj2010 Which ones are you getting if i may ask ? I am getting : 407 Watch 408 Gold 409 Alibi 414 Comedy Central 416 TLC 417 Discovery 418 Animal Planet 420 SyFy 421 Universal 422 E! 423 Fox 424 National Geographic 425 Nat Geo Wild 426 MTV 433 History 434 Crime & Investigation Network 507 BT Sport 1 508 BT Sport 2 509 ESPN 510 BT Sport 1 HD 511 BT Sport 2 HD 513 Eurosport 514 British Eurosport 2

22-07-2013, 18:17	#15
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Do you think the gaps in channel numbers means more could be coming to BT TV soon as well?

22-07-2013, 22:37	#16
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack to be fair you are getting a place holder and not yet a streaming channel They're streaming channels, as in I can watch them

22-07-2013, 22:45	#17
promo-only Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,935	Quote: Originally Posted by Roland_Smith I am getting : 407 Watch 408 Gold 409 Alibi 414 Comedy Central 416 TLC 417 Discovery 418 Animal Planet 420 SyFy 421 Universal 422 E! 423 Fox 424 National Geographic 425 Nat Geo Wild 426 MTV 433 History 434 Crime & Investigation Network 507 BT Sport 1 508 BT Sport 2 509 ESPN 510 BT Sport 1 HD 511 BT Sport 2 HD 513 Eurosport 514 British Eurosport 2 Is that through a black Vision box or a YouView box? I thought the extra channels started at 851 but I'm guessing you're on YouView?

22-07-2013, 22:51	#18
iiyama17 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Cheshire Posts: 625	Quote: Originally Posted by Roland_Smith I am getting : 407 Watch 408 Gold 409 Alibi 414 Comedy Central 416 TLC 417 Discovery 418 Animal Planet 420 SyFy 421 Universal 422 E! 423 Fox 424 National Geographic 425 Nat Geo Wild 426 MTV 433 History 434 Crime & Investigation Network 507 BT Sport 1 508 BT Sport 2 509 ESPN 510 BT Sport 1 HD 511 BT Sport 2 HD 513 Eurosport 514 British Eurosport 2 You are? How comes? Have you subscribed to the extra channels? So far I've just got the BT Sport ones plus ESPN and a test card.

24-07-2013, 13:51	#19
Roland_Smith Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24	Quote: Originally Posted by promo-only Is that through a black Vision box or a YouView box? I thought the extra channels started at 851 but I'm guessing you're on YouView? It's a youview box

24-07-2013, 13:53	#20
Roland_Smith Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24	Quote: Originally Posted by iiyama17 You are? How comes? Have you subscribed to the extra channels? So far I've just got the BT Sport ones plus ESPN and a test card. We are beta testing the new channels, that's how we get them ATM

24-07-2013, 14:14	#21
meaton Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ramsey, Isle of Man Posts: 245	How'd you get on the beta programme? They don't tend to advertise these very widely. :/

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24-07-2013, 15:09	#22
Roland_Smith Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24	Quote: Originally Posted by meaton How'd you get on the beta programme? They don't tend to advertise these very widely. :/ will PM you the details