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Old 02-11-2013, 11:08
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Katie hopkins tells it like it is, in the same way jack nicholson did in "a few good men".
You can't handle the truth.
So people are disappointed when their newborn baby has ginger hair? She talks utter rubbish!
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:35
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I love the assertion about people 'he/she tells it like it is'. People seem to reserve this statement for controversial characters like Hopkins & Jim Davidson. The latter does tell it like it is for racist misogynist, homophobic wife beaters everywhere and Hopkins tells it like it is for snobby, ghastly, hypocritical, adulterous people everywhere. I suspect she would say that Hitler had a lot of good points if it ensured press attention on her big shiny moon face.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:54
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I love the assertion about people 'he/she tells it like it is'. People seem to reserve this statement for controversial characters like Hopkins & Jim Davidson. The latter does tell it like it is for racist misogynist, homophobic wife beaters everywhere and Hopkins tells it like it is for snobby, ghastly, hypocritical, adulterous people everywhere. I suspect she would say that Hitler had a lot of good points if it ensured press attention on her big shiny moon face.


Couldn't agree more.
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Old 02-11-2013, 13:14
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I love the assertion about people 'he/she tells it like it is'. People seem to reserve this statement for controversial characters like Hopkins & Jim Davidson. The latter does tell it like it is for racist misogynist, homophobic wife beaters everywhere and Hopkins tells it like it is for snobby, ghastly, hypocritical, adulterous people everywhere. I suspect she would say that Hitler had a lot of good points if it ensured press attention on her big shiny moon face.
Absolutely. And those who like to 'tell it as it is' are the least likely to 'take it as it is'.
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Old 02-11-2013, 16:50
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..She isn't even horrible, most of what she is saying most Middle Englanders are saying...but only in their heads.

It's the multi-millionaire fake left-wing "occupy London" supporting celebrities that are the really horrible ones.
That doesn't say much for Middle England.....sad if people think she is right....even though many of them have children named Tyler and Bella, and tattoos. Even though there children would not be good enough to play with hers...They think it is okay to say nasty things about ginger haired babies, to brag about having affair, to openly discriminate against people because of their size, their name, whether they have a tattoo and too put down other women....
No wonder we are turning into such a cruel, heartless country, where the sick and disabled are allowed to starve to death, while nobody fights for them. .I am not a millionaire and I supported occupy London, they had a valid point.

Katie does not "say it as it is" unless you are a bigot, who dumps her children on nannies days after they are born, wreak other peoples marriages, then treat them with contempt, including the kids and maybe your world might be like hers.
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Old 02-11-2013, 17:03
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Completely.

She does sometimes make sense, but her way of expressing her point is so objectionable and unpleasant that it negates any good will that she might evoke.
I'm more bemused by the fact that so many posters feel the need to use such flowery English when discussing Katie Hopkins.

Do people feel like their opinion on Hopkins is only valid, or more valid if they make themselves appear highly literate?

This is DS, a light reading semi brainless rest from real life. It's sufficient enough to say "She's a twonk", surely!

It's very strange how Hopkins 'gets' to a lot of people. The woman has horrendously low self esteem which fosters an inherent need for attention.She is willing to say anything to generate that attention, it's not smart or intelligent. It's desperate. It's immature and a tactic generally adopted by children. And yet, it freaking works.

I'm now facilitating her tripe by posting about her, recognising her....makes me feel slightly dense. . . and now I understand why people use flowery language
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Old 02-11-2013, 18:22
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Anyone else see the news story about a Katie Hopkins effigy in Edenbridge? She doesn't seem that bothered and probably loves the attention but I can't believe anyone thinks something like this is okay to do or just a bit of fun.

We really haven't progressed beyond the Dark Ages much at all in some ways.
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Old 03-11-2013, 00:10
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I'm more bemused by the fact that so many posters feel the need to use such flowery English when discussing Katie Hopkins.

Do people feel like their opinion on Hopkins is only valid, or more valid if they make themselves appear highly literate?

This is DS, a light reading semi brainless rest from real life. It's sufficient enough to say "She's a twonk", surely!

It's very strange how Hopkins 'gets' to a lot of people. The woman has horrendously low self esteem which fosters an inherent need for attention.She is willing to say anything to generate that attention, it's not smart or intelligent. It's desperate. It's immature and a tactic generally adopted by children. And yet, it freaking works.

I'm now facilitating her tripe by posting about her, recognising her....makes me feel slightly dense. . . and now I understand why people use flowery language


People are allowed to express themselves any way they want, surely! I don't think the words you highlighted - objectiionable, unpleasant, evoke - were particularly "flowery" were they? Really? Fairly common usage in the English language as far as I'm aware...
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Old 03-11-2013, 00:28
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I love the assertion about people 'he/she tells it like it is'. People seem to reserve this statement for controversial characters like Hopkins & Jim Davidson. The latter does tell it like it is for racist misogynist, homophobic wife beaters everywhere and Hopkins tells it like it is for snobby, ghastly, hypocritical, adulterous people everywhere. .
Needing to get personal is always the sign you don't have a decent argument .
Hopkins does say things people don't like . She says things lots of people think but are too scared to say .
So people get offended - who cares?
She does talk utter bollocks sometimes but its refreshing to listen to someone who says what she thinks without worrying whether wimps or over sensitive whiners complain .
The people who complain are the exact ones she's aiming at and they are too stupid to realise it while the rest of us sit back and laugh while agreeing with some of what she says and disagreeing with the rest .

Getting hot under the collar about something that somebody like Hopkins says is a sure sign of her hitting the nerves of those who won't admit their inadequacies
Who really cares what her opinions are ?
I agree with much of what she says but it makes no difference whether I do or don't.

Programmes bring her on because she causes feedback and gives the shows publicity but the whingers are too dense to realise they are doing precisely whats expected of them .
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:04
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Needing to get personal is always the sign you don't have a decent argument .
Hopkins does say things people don't like . She says things lots of people think but are too scared to say .
So people get offended - who cares?
She does talk utter bollocks sometimes but its refreshing to listen to someone who says what she thinks without worrying whether wimps or over sensitive whiners complain .
The people who complain are the exact ones she's aiming at and they are too stupid to realise it while the rest of us sit back and laugh while agreeing with some of what she says and disagreeing with the rest .

Getting hot under the collar about something that somebody like Hopkins says is a sure sign of her hitting the nerves of those who won't admit their inadequacies
Who really cares what her opinions are ?
I agree with much of what she says but it makes no difference whether I do or don't.

Programmes bring her on because she causes feedback and gives the shows publicity but the whingers are too dense to realise they are doing precisely whats expected of them .
Perfectly put!
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:39
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Needing to get personal is always the sign you don't have a decent argument .
Hopkins does say things people don't like . She says things lots of people think but are too scared to say .
So people get offended - who cares?
She does talk utter bollocks sometimes but its refreshing to listen to someone who says what she thinks without worrying whether wimps or over sensitive whiners complain .
The people who complain are the exact ones she's aiming at and they are too stupid to realise it while the rest of us sit back and laugh while agreeing with some of what she says and disagreeing with the rest .

Getting hot under the collar about something that somebody like Hopkins says is a sure sign of her hitting the nerves of those who won't admit their inadequacies
Who really cares what her opinions are ?
I agree with much of what she says but it makes no difference whether I do or don't.

Programmes bring her on because she causes feedback and gives the shows publicity but the whingers are too dense to realise they are doing precisely whats expected of them .
How do you know what a lot of people think? This line always gets put in posts by people who agree with what some controversial celebrity says.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:06
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I'm more bemused by the fact that so many posters feel the need to use such flowery English when discussing Katie Hopkins.

Do people feel like their opinion on Hopkins is only valid, or more valid if they make themselves appear highly literate?

This is DS, a light reading semi brainless rest from real life. It's sufficient enough to say "She's a twonk", surely!

It's very strange how Hopkins 'gets' to a lot of people. The woman has horrendously low self esteem which fosters an inherent need for attention.She is willing to say anything to generate that attention, it's not smart or intelligent. It's desperate. It's immature and a tactic generally adopted by children. And yet, it freaking works.

I'm now facilitating her tripe by posting about her, recognising her....makes me feel slightly dense. . . and now I understand why people use flowery language



I don't know, do they? Perhaps you could contact the moderators and introduce an appropriate linguistic rule, whereby any critique of celebrities is written in terms that you find acceptable. Might I also suggest that if you find words like 'unpleasant' highly literate then perhaps a dictionary or thesaurus might be a useful addition to your bookshelf. I was hardly writing in the style of Russell Brand.

Needing to get personal is always the sign you don't have a decent argument .
Hopkins does say things people don't like . She says things lots of people think but are too scared to say .
So people get offended - who cares?
She does talk utter bollocks sometimes but its refreshing to listen to someone who says what she thinks without worrying whether wimps or over sensitive whiners complain .
The people who complain are the exact ones she's aiming at and they are too stupid to realise it while the rest of us sit back and laugh while agreeing with some of what she says and disagreeing with the rest .

Getting hot under the collar about something that somebody like Hopkins says is a sure sign of her hitting the nerves of those who won't admit their inadequacies
Who really cares what her opinions are ?
I agree with much of what she says but it makes no difference whether I do or don't.

Programmes bring her on because she causes feedback and gives the shows publicity but the whingers are too dense to realise they are doing precisely whats expected of them .


Gosh, thanks for letting me know. I would never have realised that was the case. Still, I shall remember that this is a forum for discussion and I need to use appropriate language and also never be critical of a woman who has set herself up as the DM's resident troll de jour in the absence of anything else she has to offer the world.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:17
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Anyone else see the news story about a Katie Hopkins effigy in Edenbridge? She doesn't seem that bothered and probably loves the attention but I can't believe anyone thinks something like this is okay to do or just a bit of fun.

We really haven't progressed beyond the Dark Ages much at all in some ways.
But it is a bit of fun! I don't think they should have given her the attention though, it will just add to her delusions that she's significant and important enough to hate. She isn't, she's a professional troll, and a pretty pathetic one at that, and is best, like all trolls, ignored.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:21
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I don't know, do they? Perhaps you could contact the moderators and introduce an appropriate linguistic rule, whereby any critique of celebrities is written in terms that you find acceptable. Might I also suggest that if you find words like 'unpleasant' highly literate then perhaps a dictionary or thesaurus might be a useful addition to your bookshelf. I was hardly writing in the style of Russell Brand.
Maybe you're meant to lower yourself and your descriptive terms to a level that Hopkins will understand, wot wiv her being a one-note troll an' that? But thanks for the earlier big flowery words, I have added them to my wordbank and will try to use them when I find a suitable, more upmarket thread.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:33
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Maybe you're meant to lower yourself and your descriptive terms to a level that Hopkins will understand, wot wiv her being a one-note troll an' that? But thanks for the earlier big flowery words, I have added them to my wordbank and will try to use them when I find a suitable, more upmarket thread.


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Old 03-11-2013, 12:19
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Katie Hopkins doesn't like a decent argument, on TV, she uses personal attacks, like it is " like being shouted at by a lemon" and gives them that glare. She blocks people that give her an argument on Twitter, when she starts going on about how wonderful zero hour contracts are, making fun of perfectly ordinary names, children with learning disabilaties and anyone that is even slightly overweight on tv.
Katie Hopkins may speak for many people which makes me despair for this country, it is ignorance and xenophobia....Like saying yes in fact, we are a nation of narrow minded bigots, who spit of the poor, the sick and disabled, and care about money more than their children.
She maybe a professional troll but her affairs are the truth about her character, she talks about class, she has no more class than Katie Price.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:32
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I made my point based on the fact that I have noticed your posts before, and enjoy reading them. There is a distinct shift in the choice of words and length of sentence you have chosen in this thread compared to every other thread you post in.

It's the same on twitter, people who use abbreviations and colloquialisms suddley start appearing literate when they converse with Hopkins.

My point is that she doesn't deserve the effort or the psychology behind the effort.

Just an observation.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:56
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I made my point based on the fact that I have noticed your posts before, and enjoy reading them. There is a distinct shift in the choice of words and length of sentence you have chosen in this thread compared to every other thread you post in.

It's the same on twitter, people who use abbreviations and colloquialisms suddley start appearing literate when they converse with Hopkins.

My point is that she doesn't deserve the effort or the psychology behind the effort.

Just an observation.


Thank you for the compliment, but I'm a bit lost as to why, on the one hand, you are saying my post about her was too 'wordy' and then start slipping in observations about colloquiliasms. She almost certainly isn't worth it - but so are hardly most of the subjects of these threads. She's just another Z-list non entity.
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Old 03-11-2013, 18:13
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[quote=The Prumeister;69560563]Thank you for the compliment, but I'm a bit lost as to why, on the one hand, you are saying my post about her was too 'wordy' and then start slipping in observations about colloquiliasms. She almost certainly isn't worth it - but so are hardly most of the subjects of these threads. She's just another Z-list non entity.[/QUOTE

And yet here you all are talking about her! She's loving it and so she should. Most of her controversial comments are said tounge in cheek and the rest are bang on! Let's face it if I hear one more mum scream Tyler/Mason/Bailey/Krystal or Harrison I think I'll scream back twice as loud!! A child is a mini-me of its parents and watching the kids' behaviour will tell you ALL you need to know about the mum and dad at home!!
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Old 04-11-2013, 00:02
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How do you know what a lot of people think? This line always gets put in posts by people who agree with what some controversial celebrity says.
Because some of us are intelligent enough to know the difference between things that people say and things that people want to say but don't.
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Old 04-11-2013, 00:06
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Gosh, thanks for letting me know. I would never have realised that was the case. Still, I shall remember that this is a forum for discussion and I need to use appropriate language and also never be critical of a woman who has set herself up as the DM's resident troll de jour in the absence of anything else she has to offer the world.
Clearly you are blissfully unaware that you are one of the people she is aimed at while also being unaware that criticising her is what is required of you .
If you were self aware you would move on and realise that you were a puppet on a string

Although perhaps I should have made allowances for the fact this is the Showbiz forum rather than GD
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:42
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Clearly you are blissfully unaware that you are one of the people she is aimed at while also being unaware that criticising her is what is required of you .
If you were self aware you would move on and realise that you were a puppet on a string

Although perhaps I should have made allowances for the fact this is the Showbiz forum rather than GD


Quite.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:42
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[quote=Daisydoes;69566206]
Thank you for the compliment, but I'm a bit lost as to why, on the one hand, you are saying my post about her was too 'wordy' and then start slipping in observations about colloquiliasms. She almost certainly isn't worth it - but so are hardly most of the subjects of these threads. She's just another Z-list non entity.[/QUOTE

And yet here you all are talking about her! She's loving it and so she should. Most of her controversial comments are said tounge in cheek and the rest are bang on! Let's face it if I hear one more mum scream Tyler/Mason/Bailey/Krystal or Harrison I think I'll scream back twice as loud!! A child is a mini-me of its parents and watching the kids' behaviour will tell you ALL you need to know about the mum and dad at home!!
In the US names like Tyler, Mason and Bailey are preppy and middle class...names given to sons and daughters of lawyers and Ivy League graduates. And how many Krystal's are there around? How many Charmaine's that are not French? I have only met two, one was a colleague with a similar personality to Katie, the other and 80 year old French woman.

When I was growing up names such as Lisa, Nicola, Michelle,
Caroline, Gemma and Julie were considered low class, common and know there are women with that name that are doctors, lawyers, journalists and politicians. People named David, Boris, Gideon were badly, behaved toffs in the Bullingdon Club.

As for what she Katie is aiming the is for the people that agree with her but don't realise that she is talking about them. The same philosophy as The Sun, which shows contempt for its readers.
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Old 04-11-2013, 15:03
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Katie's latest:

https://twitter.com/kthopkins/status/397362009408540672

Is that her real account?
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Old 04-11-2013, 16:46
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Just wow, could she get any nastier?
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