Originally Posted by brumilad:
“Yes but the difference is Katie doesn't use passive aggressive 'you're evil therefore your opinion is wrong' techniques.
I mean even before Katie had started speaking Peaches was on the attack finding every little excuse to undermine someone she knew wasn't going to agree with her. She couldn't have her own argument and be strong with it she needed passive aggressive attacks. And that's the difference Katie might be harsh and upfront and not afraid to be a bit personal and a terrible snob but she never stoops to something so disgusting as to suggest parent who think a certain way don't love their children. Which is what Peaches Geldof and most the women who argue against Katie do in that oh so passive aggressive way. That to me is unacceptable.”
Hold on. All Peaches said was that "attachment parents love their children". She never said every other parent in the world
doesn't, nor did she imply it. Which kind of negates your entire point as a great big straw man argument.
Peaches is defending a choice which is derided as hippy-ish, weird, obsessive and unnecessary. All she was doing is pointing out that AP parents are doing this because they love their babies and think it's best, rather than because they're weirdos or following some fad. Not that "AP parent's love their children" was part of some planned speech to shade the billions of people who don't use AP ideas when bringing up their kids - Peaches was simply expressing her opinions spontaneously.
Even if Peaches was being passive aggressive (of which there is zero evidence, besides your own biased imagination) it's rather extreme to say that Katie Hopkins - who has spewed hate speech against disabled people and is a proud home-wrecker - has "never stooped to something so disgusting" or "unacceptable". All for Peaches simply stating that AP parents love their children...
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“And to be honest I've never heard Katie express contempt for any stay at home mother, I feel that is the argument you write for her. She expresses contempt for the stay at home mothers who wear their stay at home status as a badge of pride over those who choose to work... or those who expect somebody else to pay for them to stay at home. I mean she's obviously a Tory as such she's all about being able to make your own choices as long as you take complete responsibility for it.”
If Katie can express her pride at employing others to raise her children (while also bitching at anyone who hasn't made the same choice), why can't mothers express their pride when they
do choose to stay at home? Double standards.
Also, sadly stay-at-home mums feel they have to justify themselves, as they are portrayed as unintelligent, unfashionable, pathetic, lazy, boring, irrelevant, obsessed with their babies and having nothing interesting to talk about. Stay-at-home mums are the ones who are constantly having to defend themselves from attacks, not working mothers, who are the current norm.
Some working parents imagine stay-at-home-mums are attacking them with every word they utter, because they feel guilty at not seeing their kids enough, and are also projecting their own feelings of derision at people with differing opinions to themselves. It's actually stay-at-home-mums - and even mothers who are simply deemed to be not sufficiently career-minded - who are the ones left constantly justifying themselves and their choices.