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Old 15-04-2015, 10:51
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To be fair, if we only clicked on threads of people that we liked and/or admired it would be a pretty dull, convoluted forum.

I think she's about as welcome and relevant as a clown at a funeral, and really, she's just an 'upmarket' Josie Cunningham. There's no originality or intelligence in any of her ramblings; it's all done for clickbait.

Anyone could do what she does - it's not rocket science.

And really, any chat show that she presented would be nothing like the tripe she spouts on Twitter - it feasibly couldn't be. Would they have some imams from the local mosque on for her to berate? Some fat, ginger, scots? A few palestinians? A spokesperson from MIND so she could argue pitch and toss about despression being a fallacy? No, of course they bloody wouldn't. Foe one thing she wouldn't have the guts to spout all this nonsense in person and for another it would be career suicide for her and any channel that produced it.

It would essentially be a lot of watered down guff and about as interesting as a fart in a colander.
BIB - Point taken.

But just to be sure..............you don't like her then

Of course thinking about it, there would be no way a chat show like that could exist. The guests that would want to go on it, would purely agree so they could have a fight on air with KH, and that sort of format would get stale very quickly.

I think she's too controversial for BBC or ITV, maybe Channel 4 would be better....

Though for me, I'd much prefer her to front a debate show as opposed to a chat show, as with a chat show, she'd have to be "nice" and because that isn't her front or what she's known for, it would just sink....

It's a shame she can't go back on This Morning, I did enjoy her debates she used to have with that journalist woman (can't remember her name now).
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Old 15-04-2015, 15:42
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I don't know if the chat show is actually going to go ahead, or what channel it would be on, but the reason why I said it'd be brilliant tv to have JSP on being interviewed by KH is simply because of the fued that now exists between them,

And I think if people were honest, JSP isn't the most popular of celebrities anyway, and therefore as much as people would love to see KH being humbled etc, I daresay there'll be equal numbers just as happy to see JSP stuck for words!

JSP is on Countdown this week, she may not be popular, in fact she is downright annoying but she is an established tv personality and has achieved much in her career.
JSP doesn't need the attention, KH on the other hand badly does.
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Old 15-04-2015, 16:38
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Now JSP is one loudmouth I have grown to like because she's well-informed and has signs of humanity beneath all the prickles and barbs..
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Old 15-04-2015, 18:09
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Although............you have to admit, you yourself have still clicked on a Katie Hopkins thread.......
Why are you blushing? Is it because I contradicted your claim that 'everybody' wants to see what the Hopkins does/says next?

(PS. Yes, I know I'm clicking on the thread again. )
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Old 15-04-2015, 20:54
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Why are you blushing? Is it because I contradicted your claim that 'everybody' wants to see what the Hopkins does/says next?

(PS. Yes, I know I'm clicking on the thread again. )
Damn us!
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Old 15-04-2015, 21:42
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*clink*

She is such a horrible vicious circle.

I really like JSP. The difference (if it needs to be pointed out between her and the troll) is that she's coming from a place of broad and hard-earned media experience and intelligence and has earned her 'bolshy' stripes. Unlike the troll who, as far as I can see (beyond her own spin), has never really held down a proper job.
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Old 16-04-2015, 21:46
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Have to say I wholeheartedly agree with her re Chloe Madeley
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Old 16-04-2015, 22:41
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I think that even all the people that don't like her would still want to watch it, for the car crash tv effect!
No. Never. Apart from peeking in this thread every so often I go out of my way to avoid her and will continue to do so no matter what happens. She literally makes me feel sick.
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Old 16-04-2015, 23:53
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Have to say I wholeheartedly agree with her re Chloe Madeley
Only famous because of her father, shame that Katie also had to bring Peaches Geldolf in to it too.
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Old 17-04-2015, 00:06
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Have to say I wholeheartedly agree with her re Chloe Madeley
Chloe may be irritating people with her endless selfies but at least they are promoting an image of a fit and healthy woman rather than some pathetic-looking anorexic waif (and I've had anorexia, before anyone jumps on me). As I understand it, she mainly posts these on Twitter, so unless a person 'follows' her, her images are fairly easy to avoid. I can't say they do anything for me but there is worse out there and it's better than seeing her falling out of a nightclub, pi**ed as a f**t.

What does KH ever say or do that is positive, unless it involves a dig at someone?
Today's world is not sickly sweet. Life is cruel and hard for an awful lot of people. She just contributes to a nasty, nihilistic perspective of modern life that fuels our need to feel that we are better than others and that there is always someone lower down the pecking order. That's one of the reasons her schtick catches on. I refuse to be outraged by her. There are far worse things to be outraged about. In fact, I would rather counter every negative, spiteful thing she publishes with something positive and constructive.....Here goes...(*cringe*)

Katie, sweetheart. You are an intelligent, sparky woman. Why not use your media profile to put the passion and energy you have into making a real difference to a corner of the world (*resists the temptation to suggest as far away as possible!*) where there is inequality and injustice. It's currently going to waste and that is a tragedy.
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Old 17-04-2015, 10:18
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Chloe may be irritating people with her endless selfies but at least they are promoting an image of a fit and healthy woman rather than some pathetic-looking anorexic waif (and I've had anorexia, before anyone jumps on me). As I understand it, she mainly posts these on Twitter, so unless a person 'follows' her, her images are fairly easy to avoid. I can't say they do anything for me but there is worse out there and it's better than seeing her falling out of a nightclub, pi**ed as a f**t.

What does KH ever say or do that is positive, unless it involves a dig at someone?
Today's world is not sickly sweet. Life is cruel and hard for an awful lot of people. She just contributes to a nasty, nihilistic perspective of modern life that fuels our need to feel that we are better than others and that there is always someone lower down the pecking order. That's one of the reasons her schtick catches on. I refuse to be outraged by her. There are far worse things to be outraged about. In fact, I would rather counter every negative, spiteful thing she publishes with something positive and constructive.....Here goes...(*cringe*)

Katie, sweetheart. You are an intelligent, sparky woman. Why not use your media profile to put the passion and energy you have into making a real difference to a corner of the world (*resists the temptation to suggest as far away as possible!*) where there is inequality and injustice. It's currently going to waste and that is a tragedy.


Great post.
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Old 17-04-2015, 10:23
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Thanks, Pru.
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Old 18-04-2015, 13:32
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She has now commited professional suicide with her piece on immigrants., comparing them to cockroaches that need to be exterminated, with gun boats....in her column for The Sun....And pissed of a lot of Australians too, be implying they are brutal and cruel to immigrants.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10186490.html
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Old 18-04-2015, 13:46
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That the Sun tacitly endorse her neo-Nazi views by printing them says it all, really.

She's scum, filthy scum, writing for an evil, bigoted newspaper.
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Old 18-04-2015, 13:52
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That the Sun tacitly endorse her neo-Nazi views by printing them says it all, really.

She's scum, filthy scum, writing for an evil, bigoted newspaper.
This. A thousand times this!!!
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Old 18-04-2015, 13:59
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Rather ashamed to say I find her interesting. (clinically, to quote an Alan Partridge character) Maybe the country was always like this and I'm being naive, but the mean spiritedness, the judgementalism, the snideyness, the blame culture, the lack of empathy that I see more and more in real life, is kinda summed up by this troll and similar 'personalities', if that's the right word. Probably not, actually!

Being pretentious (moi?!) sorry, I've always found that you can often define yourself by what you're NOT as much as by what you are. So people like her almost provide a service!
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Old 18-04-2015, 14:19
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Rather ashamed to say I find her interesting. (clinically, to quote an Alan Partridge character) Maybe the country was always like this and I'm being naive, but the mean spiritedness, the judgementalism, the snideyness, the blame culture, the lack of empathy that I see more and more in real life, is kinda summed up by this troll and similar 'personalities', if that's the right word. Probably not, actually!

Being pretentious (moi?!) sorry, I've always found that you can often define yourself by what you're NOT as much as by what you are. So people like her almost provide a service!
She embodies the truly deplorable trend for 'telling it like it is' that's swept the country. Compassion, kindness and reason aren't anything in the face of a witty one-liner and a nasty hashtag.
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Old 18-04-2015, 14:20
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Rather ashamed to say I find her interesting. (clinically, to quote an Alan Partridge character) Maybe the country was always like this and I'm being naive, but the mean spiritedness, the judgementalism, the snideyness, the blame culture, the lack of empathy that I see more and more in real life, is kinda summed up by this troll and similar 'personalities', if that's the right word. Probably not, actually!

Being pretentious (moi?!) sorry, I've always found that you can often define yourself by what you're NOT as much as by what you are. So people like her almost provide a service!
I agree .
While I'd resist saying I like her , because I don't think I do , I must admit to finding her interesting . Plus she has said a few things I agree with , which kind of makes me a bit . But then a messed up clock can be totally correct occasionally .
Yes I would definitely watch a talk show or chat show with her at the helm for the simple reason that she would ask the things no one else would dare and we'd be spared the bland "so, you're new movie/book ? Did you enjoy making it/writing it ?"
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Old 18-04-2015, 14:25
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She embodies the truly deplorable trend for 'telling it like it is' that's swept the country. Compassion, kindness and reason aren't anything in the face of a witty one-liner and a nasty hashtag.
Yes the trend for being vile that exists, mainly on twitter, is out of control, that's for sure .
To be fair though , she does say things in her own name ,so in that respect is an unusual type of troll .
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Old 18-04-2015, 15:22
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This is why I don't think her comment about Justine Miliband was accidently, it was a dog whistle to her racist supporters (Fox News use them when talking about Obama or voters that are Latin American.) ...Now she is using Nazi language in The Sun, someone found a 1930s Daily Mail column, written in responds to Jews trying to get to England.

These poor people being loaded onto those boats are being trafficked, they are trying to escape a hell that we have created in Libya when we took out Gaddafi..They don't even know where they are going or why? If things are bad economically for and the US, the richest nations on earth, how bad is it everywhere else?
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Old 18-04-2015, 15:52
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She embodies the truly deplorable trend for 'telling it like it is' that's swept the country. Compassion, kindness and reason aren't anything in the face of a witty one-liner and a nasty hashtag.
I find "telling it like it is" = expressing my prejudices without embarrassment.
That's all it means to me-and it's not virtuous.
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Old 18-04-2015, 18:28
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She has now commited professional suicide with her piece on immigrants., comparing them to cockroaches that need to be exterminated, with gun boats....in her column for The Sun....And pissed of a lot of Australians too, be implying they are brutal and cruel to immigrants.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10186490.html
I suggested (earlier in this thread, along with others) it would only be a matter of time. This could be it, although at this stage I'm not too optimistic. If she has written in the Sun what has been reported, to me that does come about as close as you can get to inciting hate crime. As the author says, the Sun must take some of the responsibility for publishing too. Some of the stuff she comes out with is rolly-eye and even tongue-in-cheek. This is plain disturbing.

Sad, sad highly disturbed woman.
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Old 18-04-2015, 20:14
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She has now commited professional suicide with her piece on immigrants., comparing them to cockroaches that need to be exterminated, with gun boats....in her column for The Sun....And pissed of a lot of Australians too, be implying they are brutal and cruel to immigrants.
Oh I wouldn't worry about the Australians. They're no strangers to how their country deals with asylum boats. I recall one report of a boat being driven into Indonesian waters by the Australia navy so they wouldn't need to deal with it. They certainly don't have a "sail your boats here for asylum" sign above their nation. They've cracked down on the boats and I believe they've stopped now. At one point there were many attempting to sail to Australia and it was costing lives as the boats would often run into trouble.

As colourful as Katie's comments are I don't see why they're being compared to Nazi Germany. I think her argument.. if you look beyond the outrage.. is she feels there are people who abuse the system. They consider the UK a soft touch when it comes to allowing people into the country.

And whilst there are genuine cases of people having no where else to turn.. there are also many more cases of people who have heard the UK is the place to be and decide to jump into the back of Lorries at Calais. And I think that's what Katie is getting at. She seems to feel if you're not tough on this sort of thing people will just continue to abuse the system more and more. They come here for the free stuff.. not to settle down, establish roots and contribute long term like traditional immigrants. Eventually they go home again.

That's the way I read her comments anyway... once I turned off the shock filter.
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Old 18-04-2015, 20:36
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She has now commited professional suicide with her piece on immigrants., comparing them to cockroaches that need to be exterminated, with gun boats....in her column for The Sun....And pissed of a lot of Australians too, be implying they are brutal and cruel to immigrants.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10186490.html
Not unlike the comparison made in Erwige Jude, Nazi era propaganda film, of Jews with rats.
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Old 18-04-2015, 20:36
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Oh I wouldn't worry about the Australians. They're no strangers to how their country deals with asylum boats. I recall one report of a boat being driven into Indonesian waters by the Australia navy so they wouldn't need to deal with it. They certainly don't have a "sail your boats here for asylum" sign above their nation. They've cracked down on the boats and I believe they've stopped now. At one point there were many attempting to sail to Australia and it was costing lives as the boats would often run into trouble.

As colourful as Katie's comments are I don't see why they're being compared to Nazi Germany. I think her argument.. if you look beyond the outrage.. is she feels there are people who abuse the system. They consider the UK a soft touch when it comes to allowing people into the country.

And whilst there are genuine cases of people having no where else to turn.. there are also many more cases of people who have heard the UK is the place to be and decide to jump into the back of Lorries at Calais. And I think that's what Katie is getting at. She seems to feel if you're not tough on this sort of thing people will just continue to abuse the system more and more. They come here for the free stuff.. not to settle down, establish roots and contribute long term like traditional immigrants. Eventually they go home again.

That's the way I read her comments anyway... once I turned off the shock filter.
See I just read that she wanted to murder innocent people, because they might be a mild inconvenience to her, coz that's like what she said.
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