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Old 27-04-2015, 14:53
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illegal invaders come for the benefit of the country they are illegally invading ,do they hahaha
Second question, do you understand what an asylum seeker is?
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Old 27-04-2015, 14:56
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Do you understand Hopkins was ranting about asylum seekers?
I understand that Hopkins was talking about people who do not have legal permission to enter Europe so they have chosen to do so against the law...
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Old 27-04-2015, 15:05
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Your sister in law is probably right,people who live close
to modern "diversity" usually have to bear the reality of it
,and those who support it are far far away.
..


I live in a VERY multi-cultural area of Oxford. The majority of my neighbours and the people who serve me in shops are Asian/Pakistani/Indian with a very high proportion of those being Muslim - there is a large mosque at the end of my street.

I love living in such an eclectic environment. Walking home after work you get an array of different cooking smells - it's great.
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Old 27-04-2015, 15:18
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illegal invaders come for the benefit of the country they are illegally invading ,do they hahaha
"Illegal invaders". This isn't game of thrones ha ha ha
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Old 27-04-2015, 15:49
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I understand that Hopkins was talking about people who do not have legal permission to enter Europe so they have chosen to do so against the law...
She was referring to asylum seekers crossing the med as cockroaches, as for the rest of her ill informed garbage, who knows? I don't think she has the faintest idea what she's talking about, but there's an audience for her apparently.

If you mean asylum seekers.....

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/the-uk-and-asylum.html


What is a bogus asylum seeker?
There is no such thing as a bogus asylum seeker or an illegal asylum seeker. As an asylum seeker, a person has entered into a legal process of refugee status determination. Everybody has a right to seek asylum in another country. People who don't qualify for protection as refugees will not receive refugee status and may be deported, but just because someone doesn't receive refugee status doesn't mean they are a bogus asylum seeker.
Let us remember that a bogus asylum-seeker is not equivalent to a criminal; and that an unsuccessful asylum application is not equivalent to a bogus one - Kofi Annan
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Old 27-04-2015, 16:22
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Italy accused of bringing terrorists on the boats, Christians thrown overboard to drown by Muslims:-


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-into-sea.html

Diversity not happening on the boat then.

There are going to be people who need to ditch their identity coming on those boats, and some of the comments on here seem to imply that having any kind of conditions and standards about who comes is racist. We don't even need to know their names! And they're the ones calling others ignorant.
Katie shouldn't have labelled illegal immigrants cockroaches, but I doubt it had to do with colour or race, I expect Katie sees most of the population as cockroaches.
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Old 27-04-2015, 17:24
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I live in a VERY multi-cultural area of Oxford. The majority of my neighbours and the people who serve me in shops are Asian/Pakistani/Indian with a very high proportion of those being Muslim - there is a large mosque at the end of my street.

I love living in such an eclectic environment. Walking home after work you get an array of different cooking smells - it's great.
Same here in Leeds. It's not always perfect, living in a very multi-cultural part of the city, but I've grown up here and probably wouldn't have it any other way. I'm volunteering in an NHS group that has such a background of diversity, language and religion and I love it.
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Old 27-04-2015, 17:26
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Italy accused of bringing terrorists on the boats, Christians thrown overboard to drown by Muslims:-


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-into-sea.html

Diversity not happening on the boat then.

There are going to be people who need to ditch their identity coming on those boats, and some of the comments on here seem to imply that having any kind of conditions and standards about who comes is racist. We don't even need to know their names! And they're the ones calling others ignorant.
Katie shouldn't have labelled illegal immigrants cockroaches, but I doubt it had to do with colour or race, I expect Katie sees most of the population as cockroaches.
Yes, anyone she considers beneath her- which is most of us. Unless one has status, of course- she'll grease up to those types.
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Old 27-04-2015, 17:55
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Italy accused of bringing terrorists on the boats, Christians thrown overboard to drown by Muslims:-


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-into-sea.html

Diversity not happening on the boat then.

There are going to be people who need to ditch their identity coming on those boats, and some of the comments on here seem to imply that having any kind of conditions and standards about who comes is racist. We don't even need to know their names! And they're the ones calling others ignorant.
Katie shouldn't have labelled illegal immigrants cockroaches, but I doubt it had to do with colour or race, I expect Katie sees most of the population as cockroaches.
The suspects have been arrested.

I expect so. Unless you are privately educated, then I assume everything she constantly whines about in the rest of society is allowable. So yes most of the population are dismissed as unworthy, beneath her, irrelevant and social mobility is pleb nonsense she refuses to accept. I don't think she realises this is not the Victorian era and she can't trample over people she deems to be beneath her.
I would imagine, many of her loathed pleb species are the same people who hang on her every pig ignorant utterance and she exploits to the hilt.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...kins-interview


If you managed to miss all of that, you would get an idea of her style from her reply when I ask if she'd call herself a snob. "Oh, definitely yeah, 100%. I think it's really important to be snobby. Do I think social mobility policy will ever work? Absolutely not. Is social class a much more efficient way of getting people to the top? Absolutely. Social class has worked for years. Born into the right family, go to the right schools, even if you're not super bright to start with, you'll turn out bright. You go to the right university, you get the right job, you have the right connections, you'll make it to the top. Job done, very efficient."

Efficient at what? "Efficient at getting smart, well-connected people to the top. It is efficient, because what public money was required to move those people to the top? None." That would depend on whether we want the best people at the top, surely, or just the cheapest way to get some people to fill up the top? "Oh, for goodness sake," she exclaims impatiently. "It's this whole state school thing: 'Oh, there are a couple of bright sparks, let's invest £50m trying to get the two or three that might achieve to the top.' Or, shall we take really clever people and not have to spend any money on them, and get them to the top because they're connected and went to brilliant schools and their families will support them and they're fantastic? So why bother with social mobility? Why does it matter? Why? Why? I don't understand the obsession with it."
Sir Alan Sugar had a rude awakening.

http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/si...e-7265235.html

Sir Alan Sugar told disgraced Apprentice contestant Katie Hopkins she was unemployable on the show, The Apprentice - You're Fired!.

After seeing footage of Katie's back-stabbing on the BBC2 show hosted by Adrian Chiles Sir Alan blasted: "There's no way I could see how anyone could employ someone like that. There's something very sad there."

He added: "If I would have seen that kind of stuff, there's no way in this earth I could employ someone like that."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUnRVUcoONk

This is so funny. Katie the flirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C1g0dLjaQE
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Old 27-04-2015, 23:28
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Italy accused of bringing terrorists on the boats, Christians thrown overboard to drown by Muslims:-


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-into-sea.html

Diversity not happening on the boat then.

There are going to be people who need to ditch their identity coming on those boats, and some of the comments on here seem to imply that having any kind of conditions and standards about who comes is racist. We don't even need to know their names! And they're the ones calling others ignorant.
Katie shouldn't have labelled illegal immigrants cockroaches, but I doubt it had to do with colour or race, I expect Katie sees most of the population as cockroaches.


I am sure there are criminals on those boats running away, they are Christians, Muslims, men, women and children trying to escape death, torture and rape.
When they are being washed up on Italy's shores, they save their lives, they don't ask what Faith they are first......It is our leaders that have bombed their countries, supplied weapons to the armies that are killing the people and it is our banks that caused a global recession, which is bad enough for the richest countries in the World....And there is the mess we have all left from carving up Africa, between European countries.
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Old 28-04-2015, 00:58
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I am sure there are criminals on those boats running away, they are Christians, Muslims, men, women and children trying to escape death, torture and rape.
When they are being washed up on Italy's shores, they save their lives, they don't ask what Faith they are first......It is our leaders that have bombed their countries, supplied weapons to the armies that are killing the people and it is our banks that caused a global recession, which is bad enough for the richest countries in the World....And there is the mess we have all left from carving up Africa, between European countries.
Who is this "WE" you refer to,because it certainly isn't the British working class people,that end up "having to" live next door to these illegal immigrants
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Old 28-04-2015, 01:01
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I live in a VERY multi-cultural area of Oxford. The majority of my neighbours and the people who serve me in shops are Asian/Pakistani/Indian with a very high proportion of those being Muslim - there is a large mosque at the end of my street.

I love living in such an eclectic environment. Walking home after work you get an array of different cooking smells - it's great.
You would love Tower Hamlets then...
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Old 28-04-2015, 01:52
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Who is this "WE" you refer to,because it certainly isn't the British working class people,that end up "having to" live next door to these illegal immigrants
Everyone, working class or otherwise, who benefits from the UK's first-world society and the wealth that pays for it only does so because ultimately that wealth was acquired by appropriating the natural resources of the countries these desperate people are running from for whatever reason. We all benefit from the historical plundering of the raw materials of other people's countries, from gold, to land, to produce - and even people, in the form of the slave trade whose profits built many of our cities from Bristol to Liverpool and beyond. Moreover, we've also emigrated in large numbers to many of those countries without the consent of the existing population (oh the irony). Instead of integrating we have violently taken over, often massacring and oppressing the local population and destroying their culture in the process.

In many cases in the relatively recent past we've continued to indirectly benefit from this system as a result of our governments and their proxies undermining and illegally overthrowing progressive movements and assassinating their leaders - in some cases democratically elected movements and leaders - who were trying to keep some of the profits for their own people and make their countries into the sort of places they wouldn't need to flee from in the first place. Burkina Faso's Sankara, the Congo's Lumumba and Dr. Mossadeq in Iran were all murdered or overthrown because we wanted to keep the filthy lucre flowing undisturbed in our direction.

I'm afraid its payback time. Until we realise that everyone and everything is interconnected, that human beings are all remarkably closely related and that we have a responsibility to help our fellow man and address the staggering and rapidly increasing inequality in the world, economic migrants and asylum seekers will keep on coming in order to escape the poverty, famine, war and systematic violence that our greed has helped to fuel. We would all be doing exactly the same thing, had it not been for the accident of birth that has saved us from the unimaginable misery many of these people are escaping.

It always make me laugh when the cluelessly outraged moan about foreign aid and in the next breath moan about economic migrants. The best thing we could do is to give as much aid as is needed to try and help address some of the problems that fuel this exodus. If it is true that corrupt leaders misuse this aid then perhaps we should stop helping to install such individuals in power and propping them up in order to keep the profits flowing. But then the rabid right were never very good at joined-up thinking.
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Old 28-04-2015, 02:01
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I understand that Hopkins was talking about people who do not have legal permission to enter Europe so they have chosen to do so against the law...
No-one seeking asylum has legal permission to enter under normal immigration law (which is what ill-informed ignoramuses like Hopkins usually mean) for the simple reason that it almost always impossible for them to apply in the usual way. (Try finding a British consulate in ISIS controlled Syria). However they all have the right to seek asylum in Europe under international law, not to mention EU charter. They may not have the right to remain because that depends on the subsequent determination of their eligibility, but that is an entirely different thing
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Old 28-04-2015, 02:32
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Everyone, working class or otherwise, who benefits from the UK's first-world society and the wealth that pays for it only does so because ultimately that wealth was acquired by appropriating the natural resources of the countries these desperate people are running from for whatever reason. We all benefit from the historical plundering of the raw materials of other people's countries, from gold, to land, to produce - and even people, in the form of the slave trade whose profits built many of our cities from Bristol to Liverpool and beyond. Moreover, we've also emigrated in large numbers to many of those countries without the consent of the existing population (oh the irony). Instead of integrating we have violently taken over, often massacring and oppressing the local population and destroying their culture in the process.

In many cases in the relatively recent past we've continued to indirectly benefit from this system as a result of our governments and their proxies undermining and illegally overthrowing progressive movements and assassinating their leaders - in some cases democratically elected movements and leaders - who were trying to keep some of the profits for their own people and make their countries into the sort of places they wouldn't need to flee from in the first place. Burkina Faso's Sankara, the Congo's Lumumba and Dr. Mossadeq in Iran were all murdered or overthrown because we wanted to keep the filthy lucre flowing undisturbed in our direction.

I'm afraid its payback time. Until we realise that everyone and everything is interconnected, that human beings are all remarkably closely related and that we have a responsibility to help our fellow man and address the staggering and rapidly increasing inequality in the world, economic migrants and asylum seekers will keep on coming in order to escape the poverty, famine, war and systematic violence that our greed has helped to fuel. We would all be doing exactly the same thing, had it not been for the accident of birth that has saved us from the unimaginable misery many of these people are escaping.

It always make me laugh when the cluelessly outraged moan about foreign aid and in the next breath moan about economic migrants. The best thing we could do is to give as much aid as is needed to try and help address some of the problems that fuel this exodus. If it is true that corrupt leaders misuse this aid then perhaps we should stop helping to install such individuals in power and propping them up in order to keep the profits flowing. But then the rabid right were never very good at joined-up thinking.
I hear Julius Ceasar conquered Britain (a while back).... Does that mean British people should get loads of freebies from Italy...
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Old 28-04-2015, 03:30
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I'm sick to **** of reading, from knuckle dragging sycophants of the subhuman Hopkins, that she 'says what most of us think, but are scared to say'.

There's nothing I'm scared to say, if I think I'm right, and I don't want or need the likes of her speaking on my behalf. There is no 'us' where she is concerned.

And if I ever agree with one single thing that soulless, heartless cretin says, I give full permission to be shot right between the eyes.
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Old 28-04-2015, 03:32
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You would love Tower Hamlets then...
I live in Tower Hamlets.

Yes, I love it.
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Old 28-04-2015, 06:17
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I'm sick to **** of reading, from knuckle dragging sycophants of the subhuman Hopkins, that she 'says what most of us think, but are scared to say'.

There's nothing I'm scared to say, if I think I'm right, and I don't want or need the likes of her speaking on my behalf. There is no 'us' where she is concerned.

And if I ever agree with one single thing that soulless, heartless cretin says, I give full permission to be shot right between the eyes.
You'll get splinters sitting on that fence.

Nice posts up thread about people liking where they live because of the variety of people. Same here. Live just outside a major city and it's a varied and pretty friendly place. Much happier in this area than I was when I lived with the fam in a very 'white' suburb with lots of 'ladies who lunch' and an air of snobbery and superiority.
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Old 28-04-2015, 11:05
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Who is this "WE" you refer to,because it certainly isn't the British working class people,that end up "having to" live next door to these illegal immigrants
What on earth are you talking about? Once again do you know what an asylum seeker is? Your posts suggest otherwise, without any foundation in reality. You and thick Katie seem to be totally lost in the same ill informed muddle.
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Old 28-04-2015, 11:07
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I think her fantasy love affair with Clarkson will be over when she cops this.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...n-take-5591386

The 55-year-old wrote: "How’s this for a novel idea? We accept that the people who are fleeing Libya and other countries where Isis is running amok are human beings and that they are not coming to Europe because of our benefits system or our health services.

They are coming because they don’t want to have their heads cut off with a rusty kitchen knife. And here’s the thing: If we are human beings too, we should let them in.

"If your neighbour’s house burnt down, you wouldn't tell him that your house was full. Even if you neither liked nor trusted him very much, you’d make up the sofa bed and invite him to spend the night. Or is that just me?"
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Old 28-04-2015, 14:10
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I think her fantasy love affair with Clarkson will be over when she cops this.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...n-take-5591386
Was he the guinea pig for that pioneering head transplant after he was sacked, lol?

Seriously, well done Jeremy.
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Old 28-04-2015, 23:09
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Second question, do you understand what an asylum seeker is?
Yes,, and I believe 95% of them are economic "migrants" taking the piss.
I reserve the right to think that as a British taxpayer,who has the burden of paying their rent and bills.
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Old 29-04-2015, 11:56
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Yes,, and I believe 95% of them are economic "migrants" taking the piss.
I reserve the right to think that as a British taxpayer,who has the burden of paying their rent and bills.
Really? "Believe" what you like. Making anything up to suit personal agenda doesn't alter the truth. The facts say otherwise.
Do you understand the stringent refugee status process, or how few asylum seekers there actually are in the UK each year? Your posts would suggest you don't.
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Old 29-04-2015, 12:52
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• Unemployment among ethnic minorities costs the economy almost £8.6 billion a year in benefits and lost revenue from taxes. Half of Muslim men and three quarters of Muslim women are unemployed. - The Telegraph

Yes our country has bombed and warred and taken resources from a lot of countries, and we are hated for it. TPTB may want unrest here too (imo).
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Old 29-04-2015, 13:53
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• Unemployment among ethnic minorities costs the economy almost £8.6 billion a year in benefits and lost revenue from taxes. Half of Muslim men and three quarters of Muslim women are unemployed. - The Telegraph

Yes our country has bombed and warred and taken resources from a lot of countries, and we are hated for it. TPTB may want unrest here too (imo).



Whereas tax evasion costs nigh on £19 billion.

Go figure.
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