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Old 23-07-2013, 10:26
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Just seen it on the BBC website.

And the whack-a-mole continues. I'm surprised they not gone after isohunt - maybe they're next?
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Old 23-07-2013, 10:38
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I cant belive people still use torrents, its so easy to get caught as you're not only downloading but actually uploading and distributing the illegal content as well, suppose people think it'll never happen to them, just stick their head in the sand. With the tightening of the internet laws in this country its just a matter of time.
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Old 23-07-2013, 13:09
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May keep adding sites to the list but pirate bay and others, that were supposed to be blocked already are still available.
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Old 23-07-2013, 13:44
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May keep adding sites to the list but pirate bay and others, that were supposed to be blocked already are still available.
EZTV and YIFY will still be freely available, "ban" or not
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Old 23-07-2013, 15:08
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what happens next? and how are you better off than someone who was uploading? keeping in mind that this is likely to be civil court with the associated burden of proof.
I know this is old ground from previous posts but 'uploading' i.e. distributing of material within copyright is a criminal offence so would be dealt with through the criminal courts. As it's a criminal offence the guilty party can be passed a custodial sentence unlike in a civil court.
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Old 23-07-2013, 16:08
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if they had incorrectly assumed you were seeding then they would have no case.
they would have to be able to prove that you were infact seeding. if you weren't seeding then they would have no proof. they would never take it to court anyway. their method is to intimidate you into paying a figure that is usually grasped out of thin air.

these companies don't want it to go to court as it will result in their systems being investigated with a fine tooth come, the outcome being that they are not reliable at all in detecting such matters.

in reality blocking uploads and encrypting traffic only slightly makes you better off, as they will most likely pick on the person not doing so first.
you do know that downloading is illegal, as is uploading? and with p2p if they can see your IP along with a partially downloaded item of copyritten material, they have more than reasonable grounds to assume you have broken the law, as you are unlikely to have obtained legally part of a copy of something and connecting to p2p specifically with that item for legal reasons.
what happens if they deceide to take it through courts? homes of UK based admins of torrent sites are being raided and items confiscated, torrent sites being blocked, things are changing. FACT might want to take some individuals to court next to stop people saying the things you've just said, and get people online saying how they've received court papers and taken to court, as that is likely to put more people off
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Old 23-07-2013, 16:12
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you do know that downloading is illegal, as is uploading?
In the UK it is not illegal in criminal law to download material that is in copyright
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Old 23-07-2013, 17:35
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you do know that downloading is illegal, as is uploading?
nope it's not
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Old 23-07-2013, 17:41
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I'm guessing the reason a lot of these torrent sites are getting shut down is because they're getting mentioned on these forums. It's a bit of a coincidence how some sites got mentioned on here and then all of a sudden, they get shut down. They're wasting their time though because for every site they get shut down, another (or a few) will pop up somewhere else. It would not surprise me if money's changing hands.
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Old 23-07-2013, 18:10
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I'm guessing the reason a lot of these torrent sites are getting shut down is because they're getting mentioned on these forums. It's a bit of a coincidence how some sites got mentioned on here and then all of a sudden, they get shut down. They're wasting their time though because for every site they get shut down, another (or a few) will pop up somewhere else. It would not surprise me if money's changing hands.
That's always been the case really. The old adage was actually close to "for every site that gets shut down, five will spring up in it's place".

I know EZTV is one of the more high profile sites though as they're quite respected in the field of TV rips, so maybe it was no than that really - which does lead me to wonder if isohunt is also on their radar ?
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Old 23-07-2013, 19:54
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In the UK it is not illegal in criminal law to download material that is in copyright
it's illegal

yes it is

oh no it's not...

is this pantomime season? believe what you want, it's your problem not mine. but don't say i didn't warn you
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Old 23-07-2013, 20:02
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Whilst its not a solid wall of security, a seedbox or VPN is far safer when downloading with torrents.
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Old 23-07-2013, 20:03
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it's illegal



yes it is

oh no it's not...

is this pantomime season? believe what you want, it's your problem not mine. but don't say i didn't warn you
you should be able to provide a link to the law in question then.
i'll happily retract the statement if you do.

i stand by my statement that no-one will ever be taken to court regarding uploading (or downloading) copyright material via a torrent.

these people do not want the systems used to apparently detect users to be put under the microscope in a court environment. they simply hope to frighten people into paying up.

this is why they are now targetting the websites rather than the users.
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Old 23-07-2013, 20:11
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Don't worry, with the way things are going with the Government, etc, soon UK Internet will be it's own little safety bubble outside of the nasty world of Piracy, TV shows, Porn and Gambling, we can be our own little China!
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Old 23-07-2013, 20:12
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like pirate bay there will be loads of mirror sites appear

if they really want people to stop violating copyrights , they have to close the internet

internet is based on copyright infringement

i bet every person who has internet in uk could be prosecuted for copyright infringement , how many pics/music/vids do you have on hd?

how many articles have you copyn pasted here?

this site is mostly people posting clips to copyrighted material

hypocrisy
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Old 23-07-2013, 20:14
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I know this is old ground from previous posts but 'uploading' i.e. distributing of material within
copyright is a criminal offence so would be dealt with through the criminal courts. As it's a
criminal offence the guilty party can be passed a custodial sentence unlike in a civil court.
Totally and utterly incorrect. It only becomes a criminal matter if the copyright infringment is being done for profit,
like burning to multiple CD's, DVD's and/oror BluRay discs, any content downloaded from various unauthorised
sources, and then selling those discs. Casual copyright infringement, where it's done only for personal use
and private home entertainment, is a civil offence, NOT a criminal one.
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Old 23-07-2013, 20:33
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you should be able to provide a link to the law in question then.
i'll happily retract the statement if you do.
you can look it up if you want to. why should i bother. i don't care if you think otherwise and get caught. that's your problem.


i stand by my statement that no-one will ever be taken to court regarding uploading (or downloading) copyright material via a torrent.
you can stand by your man if you want, but that means nothing

these people do not want the systems used to apparently detect users to be put under the microscope in a court environment. they simply hope to frighten people into paying up.

this is why they are now targetting the websites rather than the users.
well that's what you may think. but the truth is that just like with drugs, it's better to spend resources going after dealers, which in turn will prevent or at least slow down things getting to the user level, but users still get caught and taken to court, and likewise with downloading. it might not be many people, but it happens
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Old 23-07-2013, 21:33
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you can look it up if you want to. why should i bother. i don't care if you think otherwise and get caught. that's your problem.
you're the one saying otherwise though.
back up your statement or keep quiet.

note that your statement has been rejected by someone else too...

you can stand by your man if you want, but that means nothing
i will, thanks

well that's what you may think. but the truth is that just like with drugs, it's better to spend resources going after dealers, which in turn will prevent or at least slow down things getting to the user level, but users still get caught and taken to court, and likewise with downloading. it might not be many people, but it happens
possession of drugs is illegal though.
downloading isn't.
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Old 24-07-2013, 07:18
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you're the one saying otherwise though.
back up your statement or keep quiet.

note that your statement has been rejected by someone else too...



i will, thanks



possession of drugs is illegal though.
downloading isn't.
yes it is. if you think otherwise and don't want to, or can't be bothered checking, that's your problem, not mine. copying copywritten material without permission is illegal, regardless of the means of doing so, whether you copy a disc to your pc or copy from one computer to another, whether you are copying from someone elses computer to yours, which some would call downloading, or copying from your computer to another, which some may call uploading. whether anyone else rejects what i say and agrees with you is also irrelevant. you are your own person and free to use your computer for more than downloading and uploading, you can look it up for yourself
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Old 24-07-2013, 07:53
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you're the one saying otherwise though.
back up your statement or keep quiet..
Downloading copyright material is illegal, but it is a civil offence. When you say its not illegal do you mean its not a criminal offence?

Uploading is a criminal offence.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...t-1736013.html
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Old 24-07-2013, 15:19
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Downloading copyright material is illegal, but it is a civil offence. When you say its not illegal do you mean its not a criminal offence?

Uploading is a criminal offence.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...t-1736013.html
yes, it is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.
distributing content is a criminal offence though.
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Old 24-07-2013, 16:21
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that's down to the individual end user to decide what the setting does though.



as sure as the next person.
it's easy to block specific outgoing connections though if you really want to.



if they had incorrectly assumed you were seeding then they would have no case.



they would have to be able to prove that you were infact seeding. if you weren't seeding then they would have no proof. they would never take it to court anyway. their method is to intimidate you into paying a figure that is usually grasped out of thin air.

these companies don't want it to go to court as it will result in their systems being investigated with a fine tooth come, the outcome being that they are not reliable at all in detecting such matters.

in reality blocking uploads and encrypting traffic only slightly makes you better off, as they will most likely pick on the person not doing so first.
What i am saying is that if one of these companies were to assume you were seeding when you weren't the effect would be the same as if you were for all practical purposes.

A point that i think you agree with, though it is not completely clear.
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Old 24-07-2013, 18:03
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What i am saying is that if one of these companies were to assume you were seeding when you weren't the effect would be the same as if you were for all practical purposes.

A point that i think you agree with, though it is not completely clear.
indeed, but if they were mistaken in the assumption then there would be no case to answer.

they would have to prove guilt with hard evidence, i don't need to prove innocence.
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Old 24-07-2013, 18:26
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And crappy YouTube sails on unmolested, raking in millions and displaying downloadable copyright material without a care in the world.
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Old 24-07-2013, 18:27
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I only download TV shows so I for one will miss EZTV because it makes it so easy.

I love US TV shows they are so much better than ours and either have to wait months before they show here or most of the good ones never show.

I have Virgin so I cannot legally watch Game Of Thrones because Sky in there wisdom will not let Virgin have it.

So what do they expect people to do?

Anyway I am pretty computer savvy so there are plenty of other ways to get them so will just have to work a bit harder!
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