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I would have thought Sacher-Masoch was not a common surname. Is that even going to be mentioned? Nothing ordinary about her ancestry.
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Sorry, but anyone of my generation knows intimately about this... 30 mins of wasted time
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But many viewers wouldn't.
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Hate to say this program is boring but it's so slow and laborious. I'm shouting at the screen GET ON WITH IT. But they don't.
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Hate to say this program is boring but it's so slow and laborious. I'm shouting at the screen GET ON WITH IT. But they don't.
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I'm switching over. I've had enough.
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I'm switching over. I've had enough.
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Well I found it fascinating.
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Well I found it fascinating.
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Very disappointed in tonight's programme. It was a history programme about pre war and WW2 Germany and Austria with a bit of genealogy. In fact when the family moved back to Austria I half expected Julie Andrews to appear and sing.
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I also found the programme to extremely interesting and thought provoking.
And I am 2 years older than Miss Faithful - was born in the war and although knew some history about her background, it was still very interesting.. Last edited by ricardoylucia : 18-09-2013 at 22:29. Reason: spelling |
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Very disappointed in tonight's programme. It was a history programme about pre war and WW2 Germany and Austria with a bit of genealogy. In fact when the family moved back to Austria I half expected Julie Andrews to appear and sing.
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Although the programme didn't seem to move very far I found it interesting in particular seeing the various documents (OK they were all facsimiles) relating to her mother and her mother's family. But then I'm interested in that period of history anyway.
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I also found the programme to extremely interesting and thought provoking.
And I am 2 years older than Miss Faithful - was born in the war and although knew some history about her background, it was still very interesting.. It was obvious where Marianne Faithful got her looks from when younger just a pity drink and drugs have ravaged both her looks and voice. |
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I found it very interesting especially about her mother's dance roles and the slow change on what became unacceptable, and then her grandmother's story. How many celebs can say their mother and grandmother survived the holocaust only to be raped by the Red Army?
Sacher is the name of the leading hotel in Vienna from where we get the divine sachertorte. I wonder if there's a connection. Also Masoch is, I think, the name we get masochist from?!! I don't think you can ever tell the story of what happened in Germany and Austria too many times. There was some new info here, it was very dramatic and full marks to Marianne who remained serious and thoughtful about it as opposed to crying every 5 minutes. She has seen a lot of life. |
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Also Masoch is, I think, the name we get masochist from?!!
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For all I find the period of history fascinating, this was one of the most boring WDYTYA ever.
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May I ask how old you are Dome?
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The programme in itself was fairly interesting. However, I do deplore the new style of giving someone a ready made family tree, going back only one or two generations and focussing on one or two stories, rather than the process of tracing lineage to uncover potential interesting incidents. I am sure that there were, as has been said, links to Hotel Sacher, and to other aspects of history in addition to the obligatory series Nazi story.
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She has not aged well
The voice was never good so should have retired years ago. I have seen a video on YouTube from when she was here on Rhodes in 2011 Terrible does not describe her singing |
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I wish they would do Joanne Froggatt on this as she is related to my girlfriend
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The programme in itself was fairly interesting. However, I do deplore the new style of giving someone a ready made family tree, going back only one or two generations and focussing on one or two stories, rather than the process of tracing lineage to uncover potential interesting incidents. I am sure that there were, as has been said, links to Hotel Sacher, and to other aspects of history in addition to the obligatory series Nazi story.
It's all a performance to tell a story. Showing them a printout of the tree saves a lot of time and shows the whole picture before they then concentrate on part of it. Did Sarah Millican need to fly out by helicopter to a remote area just to discover that it was cold there, probably not but it makes 'good television'. |
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I found her very interesting,much better than the lacklustre episodes we've had to date.I remember her from her Mick Jagger days, she was a real beauty.I didn't know she was part Jewish, she was a convent girl. Her grandfather was a bit selfish putting his Jewish wife and daughter at risk, he should have just kept his head down and hoped that they wouldn't be noticed.
I would have liked to know something about her father,she said he had a big house with a large garden but put her and her mother in a little terrace house. Did she have any contact with him then or later? It's all very well going back many generations but, for instance, Nick Hewitt went back 10 generations which means he had over 1000 gt gt grandparents. As the researcher told Marianne, we're probably all descended from Charlemaigne. |
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Well I found it fascinating.
As good as Nitin Ganatra they other week. But this series has been a bit of a hit and miss, with the celebs, all interesting, just not memorable. |
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My opinion of the Marianne Faithfull episode is: get over yourself.
She blames her mother for not being able to have a physical relationship until her fifties. That's the most stupid thing that I've ever heard, the main subject of the programme was her mother and the dreadful circumstances that she found herself in because she was half Jewish. I could relate to her mother and I could empathise completely, but when that silly woman, Marianne, turned it all around by implying that it actually affected her too, that's when it turned on its head. Faithfull has always been a non-personality, a singer without any talent and someone who always thought that she was a cut above. Last night, she proved that she was a big cut below. Eva lived through hell, Marianne's hell was self induced. Eva's story was heart wrenching but was totally spoiled by her daughter turning it around by eluding that it had affected her, too. How could it have done so if she was truthful by saying that she had no idea what her mother had endured? She knew that her mother and grandmother had been raped by the Russians, she'd already been told, but why would this affect her as badly as she tried to make out? It's this bit that I just don't get. Can anyone explain? |
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